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  • stewaat

    #31
    Re: Finally making one of these threads...

    Originally posted by trobinson97
    I imagine that little thing could do about as much damage to the meter reader as granny could do to a young healthy cop.
    Cool so the cop should've hit the granny in the face with a metal pole inflicting a fatal injury.
    Gotcha
    Bottom line: some think it's acceptable to hit a 6 lb dog that's barking at you and being aggressive. Some would rather kill the dog than be bit.

    I believe there is a better way to subdue the dog.

    It still makes me sick though...and I'm surprised how many people can relate with the meter reader.

    I'd love for somebody to provide an instance where a small dog (<10 lbs) inflicted a substantial injury on a person.

    I'm sure I could find many examples of an older person killing a person.

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    • z Revis
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      • Oct 2008
      • 13639

      #32
      Re: Finally making one of these threads...

      Originally posted by stewaat
      Bottom line: some think it's acceptable to hit a 6 lb dog that's barking at you and being aggressive. Some would rather kill the dog than be bit.
      You think he purposely killed the dog?

      I believe there is a better way to subdue the dog.
      Probably, but I'd imagine it was a knee jerk reaction on the meter reader's part. He's doing his job and then some dog comes hauling *** right towards him barking.

      Besides, to fully understand this, you'd have to know what it's like to be a meter reader. These guys are constantly being approached by dogs. They go in people's backyards everyday for a living, hundreds probably. I'm sure a great deal of them have dogs and as a meter reader, you have no idea how mean/aggressive or nice the dog is. These guys probably get bit/attacked quite often and as a result they have that 'self defense' mentality. That's part of being a meter reader. You have to do your job, but also be on the lookout for dogs constantly.

      The real bottom line here is this: Keep your dogs confined.
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      • stewaat

        #33
        Re: Finally making one of these threads...

        I'm not saying don't hit any dog that runs after you. But a 6 lb dog? Seriously?

        If a pit bull is running after you then yea...do what you need to do. That thing has the capability of severely injuring somebody. I could see shooting a pit bull if it's coming after you viciously.

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        • trobinson97
          Lie,cheat,steal,kill: Win
          • Oct 2004
          • 16366

          #34
          Re: Finally making one of these threads...

          Originally posted by stewaat
          Cool so the cop should've hit the granny in the face with a metal pole inflicting a fatal injury.
          Gotcha
          Are you just saying anything now? I don't even know how you could have come to that one. Tasers have caused fatalities have they not? If that woman had died of a heart attack from being shocked by that weak cop would it still have been justified? It wouldn't have been intentional but it could happen.


          Bottom line: some think it's acceptable to hit a 6 lb dog that's barking at you and being aggressive. Some would rather kill the dog than be bit.
          Bottom line is some people hold the lives of the average dog of more worth than the average human.

          I believe there is a better way to subdue the dog.
          I believe there are better ways to subdue little old ladies.

          It still makes me sick though...and I'm surprised how many people can relate with the meter reader.
          I can't understand that, the meter reader is the victim, not the dog. That's probably why people can relate to him.

          I'd love for somebody to provide an instance where a small dog (<10 lbs) inflicted a substantial injury on a person.
          Whether or not the dog could have inflicted a serious injury is beside the point. It's a freakin' dog that should have been trained better.

          The meter reader had his personal space invaded by an aggressive animal. Would you have a problem if he had unintentionally killed an aggressive rat, cat or squirrel? If you want to be mad, be mad at the irresponsible owners for not training their dog up correctly and letting it get loose.

          I probably wouldn't react the same way if I saw a little yapper running towards me, but I'm not gonna cry about it when someone else reacts differently to an aggressive untrained animal, no matter it's size. Sometime granny has to get electrocuted into submission or body slammed, and sometimes a dog has to take a stick to the face.

          I'm sure I could find many examples of an older person killing a person.
          Yeah cuz grannie was about to kill that cop right? I
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          • ScoobySnax
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            • Mar 2009
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            #35
            Re: Finally making one of these threads...

            Lol @ trob
            Originally posted by J. Cole
            Fool me one time that's shame on you. Fool me twice can't put the blame on you. Fool me three times, **** the peace sign, load the chopper let it rain on you.
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            • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
              Next Miami Great
              • Dec 2008
              • 4285

              #36
              Re: Finally making one of these threads...

              If any animal is charging me an I think its trying to bite me then I will do everything in my power to keep myself safe.

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              • MassNole
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                • Mar 2006
                • 18848

                #37
                Re: Finally making one of these threads...

                The disease that a dog carries in its mouth, regardless of size, is enough to curb stomp an attacking/aggressive animal as any bite could cause severe infection leading to death. On average there are 18 deaths a year from dog bites according to <a href="http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=572">Dogbite- Fatal Dog Attacks - MedicineNet - Health and Medical Information Produced by Doctors</a>.

                Any bite could be fatal, as such any defense against an aggressive dog is justified.

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                • ScoobySnax
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                  • Mar 2009
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                  #38
                  Re: Finally making one of these threads...

                  I like dogs, but if one ever attacked me, I'm going to defend myself. Period.
                  Originally posted by J. Cole
                  Fool me one time that's shame on you. Fool me twice can't put the blame on you. Fool me three times, **** the peace sign, load the chopper let it rain on you.
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                  • FlyingFinn
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3956

                    #39
                    Re: Finally making one of these threads...

                    Originally posted by trobinson97
                    Bottom line is some people hold the lives of the average dog of more worth than the average human.
                    I do... and for good reason. Most people are ignorant, selfish a-holes that contribute less to society then my yellow lab.

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                    • Cebby
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                      • Apr 2005
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                      #40
                      Re: Finally making one of these threads...

                      Originally posted by FlyingFinn
                      I do... and for good reason. Most people are ignorant, selfish a-holes that contribute less to society then my yellow lab.
                      Dogs are stupid, selfish, and contribute nothing to society.

                      Try another argument.

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                      • trobinson97
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                        • Oct 2004
                        • 16366

                        #41
                        Re: Finally making one of these threads...

                        Originally posted by FlyingFinn
                        I do... and for good reason. Most people are ignorant, selfish a-holes that contribute less to society then my yellow lab.

                        What does your yellow lab contribute to society exactly?
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                        • Beantown
                          #DoYourJob
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 31523

                          #42
                          Re: Finally making one of these threads...

                          Originally posted by Cebby
                          Dogs are stupid, selfish, and contribute nothing to society.

                          Try another argument.


                          Unless your dog is Lassie and saved little Timmy from a well, it doesn't contribute to society at all.

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                          • ScoobySnax
                            #faceuary2014
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 7624

                            #43
                            Re: Finally making one of these threads...

                            Originally posted by Cebby
                            Dogs are stupid, selfish, and contribute nothing to society.

                            Try another argument.
                            LMAO
                            Originally posted by J. Cole
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                            • stewaat

                              #44
                              Re: Finally making one of these threads...

                              Originally posted by Cebby
                              Dogs are stupid, selfish, and contribute nothing to society.

                              Try another argument.


                              I'm not going to disagree but this opens up certain demographics to far worse criticisms.

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                              • stewaat

                                #45
                                Re: Finally making one of these threads...

                                Originally posted by kng23rich
                                If any animal is charging me an I think its trying to bite me then I will do everything in my power to keep myself safe.
                                You should! Self defense is natural. I just find it hard to believe somebody can justify deadly force on a toy poodle that is coming at them.

                                Originally posted by MassNole
                                The disease that a dog carries in its mouth, regardless of size, is enough to curb stomp an attacking/aggressive animal as any bite could cause severe infection leading to death. On average there are 18 deaths a year from dog bites according to Dogbite- Fatal Dog Attacks - MedicineNet - Health and Medical Information Produced by Doctors.

                                Any bite could be fatal, as such any defense against an aggressive dog is justified.
                                Any attack from anything could be fatal if it breaks the skin so are we saying deadly force is justified in any threat of attack which might break the skin?

                                I saw a fellow officer bitten by a prostitute. Who knows what kind of diseases she had. Would he have been justified in killing her for that reason?

                                Originally posted by ScoobySnax
                                I like dogs, but if one ever attacked me, I'm going to defend myself. Period.
                                Originally posted by FlyingFinn
                                I do... and for good reason. Most people are ignorant, selfish a-holes that contribute less to society then my yellow lab.
                                I agree. It's not most people...but one day will be. Dog's do contribute to society. They contribute directly to the people they come into contact with. I'm a part of society and my dog enhances the quality of my life, therefore it contributes to society.

                                There's a demographic of people out there who serve as a burden on society.

                                trob tazers are non-deadly force. I've been tazed and it hurts for 5 seconds and then the pain immediately goes away. How is that excessive?

                                You're a fool to think an old lady can't hurt you.

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                                Think what you want. Walk around naive and like you live in a bubble where you can't get hurt. I see way too many people like that end up victim's.

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