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  • Fresh Tendrils
    Strike Hard and Fade Away
    • Jul 2002
    • 36131

    #901
    Re: OS Book Club Pt II

    Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
    I'm intrigued...reviews are rough, I heard they changed the Hound into a drone lol. Should be interesting for sure.
    A drone? It's hard to find that more intimidating than the Hound. That ****er was demonic and terrifying in the book. Sniffing, hunting, and killing with mechanized efficiency.



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    • KSUowls
      All Star
      • Jul 2009
      • 5891

      #902
      Re: OS Book Club Pt II

      Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
      Currently I'm reading Mistborn - The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson. So far it's an intriguing read with imaginative world building. I'm nearly halfway through with it. I haven't decided what I want to read next - if I want to jump into the second book of the Mistborn trilogy or something else. Either way I don't know what that something else would be. I feel like I need a little break from the traditional novel. Perhaps it's time to pick back up with Maya Angelou's memoir series? Or perhaps some kind of non-fiction - maybe DuBois' Reconstruction text. Or for something completely different the poetry book The Princess Saves Herself In This One.
      I read the first 2 of the series, and I agree that the world building is really good. The 2nd book is worth a read, but I also can't say that you're missing much if you skip it. Kind of contradictory I know, but it's hard to explain without going into spoilers.

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      • Fresh Tendrils
        Strike Hard and Fade Away
        • Jul 2002
        • 36131

        #903
        Re: OS Book Club Pt II

        Originally posted by KSUowls
        I read the first 2 of the series, and I agree that the world building is really good. The 2nd book is worth a read, but I also can't say that you're missing much if you skip it. Kind of contradictory I know, but it's hard to explain without going into spoilers.
        I went ahead and bought it.

        I'll do my "write-up" tonight or tomorrow, but I enjoyed the book greatly. Sanderson's writing is basic. There's no fluff or augmentation nor a whole lot of nuance, but I never felt the story suffered from it. By the final 1/3 of the book I felt I was on an incredible ride. The world is interesting as it generally feels like a mix of England Industrial and American Plantation (Steam-Punk I guess?) with the stratified classes and locations. The base is built solidly on the "magic" system Sanderson creates. It's an intriguing system that makes the action mesmerizing and I like how he weaves some nuance into the characters story via Allomancy.



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        • Fresh Tendrils
          Strike Hard and Fade Away
          • Jul 2002
          • 36131

          #904
          Re: OS Book Club Pt II

          Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
          I went ahead and bought it.

          I'll do my "write-up" tonight or tomorrow, but I enjoyed the book greatly. Sanderson's writing is basic. There's no fluff or augmentation nor a whole lot of nuance, but I never felt the story suffered from it. By the final 1/3 of the book I felt I was on an incredible ride. The world is interesting as it generally feels like a mix of England Industrial and American Plantation (Steam-Punk I guess?) with the stratified classes and locations. The base is built solidly on the "magic" system Sanderson creates. It's an intriguing system that makes the action mesmerizing and I like how he weaves some nuance into the characters story via Allomancy.
          Mistborn: The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson

          There's really not a whole lot to add to this. The story itself follows an orphan who discovers they are a wizard of sorts (Allomancer in Sanderson's world) and is recruited into an underground rebellion that is masked, organized, and functions as a normal heist. The world feels like equals parts London/Industrial Age Europe and Plantation-America. A functioning world of steam-punk I suppose, but it's a stylistic world that isn't aggressive in it's presentation. Sanderson builds a world that simply wraps around and encompasses the reader by the end of the last page.

          At the center of this world Sanderson builds a caste system with his world's economy which rests and is built upon the free labor of the skaa - a repressed people who have lived generations and generations in subjugation. It is an obvious connection to American slavery as plantation imagery, failed rebellions, and harsh punishments act as common connectors to American history. From this Sanderson creates a stratified economy where the high classes host balls while secretively politicking and occasionally waging outright wars upon one another.

          Somehow Sanderson manages to create another system within his universe that is even more interesting and draws the reader into his world even more. He creates and superbly introduces a system of magic based around the use of certain metals. It's an imaginative system that is balanced between powers and pushes the reader along through action that is fresh and races along with an adrenaline pace.

          Sanderson's writing style is fairly basic and streamlined. Even though the book is nearly 600 pages in length there's nothing much in the way of fluff. Some may find this satisfying, but I was usually left without a sense of identity from the writing. Some parts felt like I was reading a script to a movie. The narrative itself is strong and the cast of characters are all intriguing in a myriad of ways that reflect various aspects of the protagonists' traits and motivations.

          Overall Sanderson creates a world that feels wholly imaginative and fresh. A world that rests on an interesting economy and an even more interesting system of magic. His cast of characters feel organic and shape the events of the book accordingly. The final third of the book is a rush of action as the strings of Sanderson's narrative begin to draw taunt and collect themselves. He lulls you along with his basic style, but by the end you're feeling connected to everything that is happening to your surprise. Despite the basic writing it's a strong, entertaining read.


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          • Fresh Tendrils
            Strike Hard and Fade Away
            • Jul 2002
            • 36131

            #905
            Re: OS Book Club Pt II

            Blood Meridian, or the Evening Redness in the West by Cormac McCarthy

            This is a tremendous read. At times a strange sense of whimsy nostalgia ran through my head similar to how Something Wicked This Way Comes made me feel. Unlike Bradbury's fantastical coming of age story McCarthy connects those times of nostalgia with a vast dried, desert of carnage. McCarthy establishes a vivid setting that stretches beyond time as the ever-stretching desert is simultaneously past, present, and future. Bones lay scattered from beasts slain by others or beaten by the landscape itself. Sands erode carcasses and predators pick meat off of fresh decaying bodies. There's a continuing cycle throughout of man's savagery in a timeless, untamed wilderness.

            At the center is The Kid - a member of a mercenary gang whom is mostly silent and observant - and the Judge - a near supernatural being marked by his distinct physical appearance, his penchant for soliloquy, and base desire and evils. McCarthy follows the gang on a trip filled with savage depravity. Casual violence is oft-times brutal without restraint, consequence, or cause. Eventually this violence is met with expectant non-feeling from the reader as McCarthy punctuates the savagery with specific acts of depravity that run throughout the book and never fail to remind the reader of the evils of these men. During these specific atrocities the Judge (and the Kid coincidentally) are never far. Throughout the gang's travels many themes are explored, but the most important I thought were those of the moving compass of morality, losses of innocence, and the over-arcing evil of man operating in an unstructured world.

            McCarthy's style for lack of actual punctuation creates a pace that changes swiftly at his command. Sometimes the sentences crawl like a slow moving, radiating sun over the baked desert. Other times passages roll on like a galloping horse. Dialogue is without quotations and at times can be interchangeable among characters (I found myself switching the dialogue up several times and seeing how/if the perspective changed). His prose is timeless, but also sends the reader back to a time or medieval western depravity. McCarthy paints a landscape so vast and vivid I felt like I was on a plateau overlooking the cloud of dust of the gang moving across the floor of the desert as they moved across bones and carcasses through the world and time.

            McCarthy's novel of depravity in the frontier of the West is captivating and excels in nearly every faucet necessary. There's more than enough layers to warrant repeated readings and the final page opens itself (and the rest of the book) to close examination and analysis. It it is truly a fantastic read and easily one of the best I have read.

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            • DieHardYankee26
              BING BONG
              • Feb 2008
              • 10178

              #906
              Re: OS Book Club Pt II

              School and life are way in the way, but still getting through what I can.

              The Death of Ivan Ilyich by Leo Tolstoy

              I finished this a couple weeks ago and probably would've had a very different description had I written this up then but having just started this philosophy class and having all of this stuck in my head it seems to pretty much be Tolstoy's answer to whether or not Socrates was right that an "unexamined life is not worth living". Ivan, now on his deathbed and having lived a long life in what he believed to be the right way, asks why he has to suffer is he's lived life the way he was supposed to. Tolstoy was of the belief that to live an immoral life was to essentially be alive while dead, spiritually bankrupt regardless of actual life. He's trying to grapple with the question of what it truly means to live, not in a short term human sense, but what it means to live in a way that gives a sense of true meaning. It's translated from Russian, so while the prose is still great, I really wonder how it comes off in the original language. I don't know how similar English and Russian are, but I have to wonder what kind of nuances and alternate meanings are lost in translation. I like the themes explored so Tolstoy stays on the list, still need to read Anna.

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              Dubliners by James Joyce and Will You Please Be Quiet, Please by Raymond Carver
              The reason I chose to write these up together is because I could not stop comparing them the entire time I was going through Carver's collection. Both are collections of short stories, Dubliners from one of the faces of the Rushmore of English literature in Joyce, and WYPBQP from Carver who I had not actually heard of but as soon as I started looking for short story collections his name popped up everywhere. Here's the thing: They are similar in that they are vignettes that amount to old time literary Seinfeld episodes, just about regular people doing regular stuff. Getting through Dubliners it started to occur to me that these stories aren't about anything, they just follow average people in a moment in their life. Carver tries to do the same thing in WYPBQP and this is where my preferences kick in pretty heavy.

              Carver's style just does very little for me. The way he writes, the sentences tend to be short and specific almost like direct thoughts from the characters or from a third party watching the characters. He did this, then this happened, he said this, she said this. It is effective in the way he employs it and many of the stories leave you with a kind of emptiness that I think is the point. You feel a very specific kind of despair because of the way he skates through the story, giving only so much information that you can see exactly what happened and can make out for yourself "what it means" if there is a meaning to derive. Joyce does the same, I just think much better. It's not like he hasn't been touted enough, but the way he uses language is just mesmerizing at times. Just a really enjoyable read from a prose standpoint. The stories being about nothing profound and just being tiny windows into the human experience didn't bother me, but you've gotta put some sauce on it. There's a description of Carver's second short story collection in the back of this one which I liked a lot: "...Carver's characters are peripheral people - people without education, insight, or prospects, people too unimaginative to even give up. Carver celebrates those men and women." I liked that description probably more than any of the actual short stories.

              Dubliners

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              WYPBQP

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              On to Her Body and Other Parties by Carmen Maria Machado
              Originally posted by G Perico
              If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
              I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
              In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
              The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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              • Fresh Tendrils
                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                • Jul 2002
                • 36131

                #907
                Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                The Princess Saves Herself In This One by Amanda Lovelace

                Trying to judge and qualify poetry feels like a paradox to me. There are rules and constraints, but then it is also completely wide open and malleable. I don't really want to spend any time running around saying this book isn't poetry like so many reviews have done. Likewise I don't want to begrudge the formatting of Lovelace's poems. It's true that many of them seem to rely on the aesthetic of spacing, alignment, and overall format to drive home the primary point of each poem. To me presentation can be nearly as important as the words so I never took offense like others have. All I can offer is how I perceive the quality of the work and how it connected (or didn't) with me.

                The title of this collection of poems is what drew me in initially. It went on to receive the 2016 Goodreads Choice Award for Poetry. Suffice to say my hopes were a little high and I had some preconceived notions before opening the book. Lovelace breaks the book into four sections: the princess, damsel, the queen, and you. Each of these sections (well the first 3 anyway) are to represent different periods of Lovelace's life as she draws on her life's trials and events, turns them into inspirations and motivations, and how she is now her own Queen. Or at least that is the premise from the beginning. I never fully connected with her once she moved out of the initial section.

                Like I said initially poetry can be a conundrum to some. I liked the premise of the book and felt like it would be a provoking and inspirational read. It began extremely well to me as Lovelace reflects on the battles her younger self faced - eating disorders, self-cutting, death of her sister and mother, and a tense relationship with her family members. She does a great job of setting the stage for transformation as her premise and structure of the collection eludes to. Unfortunately the other parts never came close to kindling any type of connection the way the first section does. Occasionally she reconnects on the loss of her family members, but she begins to venture into teenage angst (emo?) and I felt like I was reading middle school and high school diary entries. Not to say the poems themselves are immature or innocently naive, but the tribulations are similar - early love, heartbreaks, learning to love, and learning to love yourself.

                Unfortunately, the title of the book rang hollow to me by the end. I picked up very little in the way of self-growth or actualization apart from a handful of entries. For a princess that saves herself she spends a lot of time thanking and waxing on the love of her life - which I found a little perplexing. Lovelace's inability to flesh out her premise and overall structure hurt the collection more than any individual poems and honestly there were some really, really bad ones (Ie: a blank page with a caption of "silence has always been my loudest scream"). I feel like the whole collection comes off as a missed opportunity and my expectations weren't even close to being realized.

                Still, I hesitate to tell anyone to skip this. Poetry is hard for me to pin down and I feel like sometimes it's just a matter of experiences connecting. What I may find eye-rolling somebody else may cry their eyes out. The beauty of poetry I suppose.

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                • sportsdude
                  Be Massive
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5001

                  #908
                  Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                  Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                  I went ahead and bought it.

                  I'll do my "write-up" tonight or tomorrow, but I enjoyed the book greatly. Sanderson's writing is basic. There's no fluff or augmentation nor a whole lot of nuance, but I never felt the story suffered from it. By the final 1/3 of the book I felt I was on an incredible ride. The world is interesting as it generally feels like a mix of England Industrial and American Plantation (Steam-Punk I guess?) with the stratified classes and locations. The base is built solidly on the "magic" system Sanderson creates. It's an intriguing system that makes the action mesmerizing and I like how he weaves some nuance into the characters story via Allomancy.
                  The second Mistborn series, which takes place around 300 years after the first Mistborn trilogy, is much more steampunk. It's known as the Wax and Wayne series, with the first book being The Alloy of Law. I just finished reading the first three in the series (the fourth is still to be released) and liked them, but not as much as the first Mistborn books.
                  Lux y Veritas

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                  • Fresh Tendrils
                    Strike Hard and Fade Away
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 36131

                    #909
                    Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                    Originally posted by sportsdude
                    The second Mistborn series, which takes place around 300 years after the first Mistborn trilogy, is much more steampunk. It's known as the Wax and Wayne series, with the first book being The Alloy of Law. I just finished reading the first three in the series (the fourth is still to be released) and liked them, but not as much as the first Mistborn books.
                    I'm 99% of the way through Well of Ascension. I have been fairly impressed by the improvement of writing from the first installment. It has room to breathe and add small details. The narrative itself feels more nuanced and admittedly it's been a fantastic ride.



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                    • DieHardYankee26
                      BING BONG
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 10178

                      #910
                      Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                      Her Body and Other Parties by Carmen Maria Machado

                      A collection of short stories that infuses small science fiction elements into its narratives which vary from a retelling of the story "The Green Ribbon" (in this collection called "The Husband Stitch"), to how body acceptance and expectations can affect women growing up, to a really weird, overly long re-imagining of the first 12 seasons of Law & Order SVU episode by episode. That story was pretty excruciating and I will skip it entirely if I go through these again, but the rest of the stories (The Husband Stitch, Eight Bites, and The Resident were my top 3) were so good that I'd still say I love the collection. The Husband Stitch was just fantastic, I had never read The Green Ribbon so I didn't know what the punchline was so to speak, the way she flipped it to be about societal roles and expectations on women was dope. The writing is vivid without ever being overbearing, it's not sparse but also doesn't seem like she's using words just to use them.

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                      The Thing Around Your Neck by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

                      This collection by the same Nigerian author from We Should All Be Feminists fame (side note, I dunno why all of the African authors I come across are Nigerian, it's odd, I'll have to make a concerted effort to read other work from other countries, although I have really enjoyed all the Nigerian authors I've read so far and still have to read Arrow of God) are different takes on the experience of cultures clashing, whether it be Nigerian immigrants in America or the perspective of their parents who stayed and saw their children become unrecognizable and products of a culture completely foreign to them. As always, I just find takes on America from foreigners interesting. There's one story ("The Arrangers of Marriage") about a woman who's had her wife arranged to a Nigerian man in America and how little control she has over her situation when she gets there, it just forces you to feel for her. "Tomorrow is Too Far" is about a little girl who was jealous of the attention her brother got as a boy, an awful prank attempt gone wrong, and the effects on their family, that one is great. The last one, "The Headstrong Historian", is about a woman who goes out of her way to create a better life for her son as she sees the colonization incoming, so she sends him to a school to be taught by missionaries where he basically learns to take everything she believes in as sin, and then his daughter after her reverses the trend. Good collection, no real dredges in it to take it down, but the sci-fi twist in some of the stories in the other collection made it stand out a little more.

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                      Glad to get back into some really compelling writing after how boring I found Carver's stuff. On to someone who has not disappointed me in all this time, my guy James Baldwin with a collection of his called Going to Meet the Man. After that, I want to get through 2 more collections before the end of the month, one by Alice Walker and another by Ralph Ellison. Then I'll switch gears, I'm gonna flip a coin. I'm doing 2 fairly heavy reads back to back once July hits, The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoyevsky (Black Thought has inspired me) and Lolita by Nabokov. A deeper dive into Russian(/Russian-American I guess with Nabokov) than I got from Tolstoy, should be a good time.
                      Originally posted by G Perico
                      If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                      I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                      In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                      The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                      • kt-od
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2355

                        #911
                        Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                        I just finished "Ready Player One". Wow, what a ride. I loved it from start to finish. I don't know why I waited this long to read it.
                        Twitch

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                        • Fresh Tendrils
                          Strike Hard and Fade Away
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 36131

                          #912
                          Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                          Gather Together In My Name by Maya Angelou

                          If somebody put a gun to my head and made me a pick a favorite between her first two memoir installments I would have to give the edge to the aforementioned over I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings. The latter is a fantastic introduction to Maya's efficiently blunt style of poetical flow. Gather Together In My Name continues this efficient vividness for detail and emotion, but also hones it in as she focuses on a shorter time frame of her life.

                          This installment picks up where the previous one ended - Maya single, with no job, and a newborn baby to care for. Her innocent naivety is still intact, but as she becomes an adult (maturation hasn't quite touched her until the end) it starts blossoming into full fledged ignorance. There's a wide-eyed ambition in her that is hard to find fault in and is admirable even if she applies it less than admirably. She starts her own business (to put it mildly) and reaches down into the pit of the world to care for a man she mistakenly loves.

                          While her actions, choices, and trajectory of Maya's life during this time period (late teens to early 20s from 1944 to 1948) are certainly dark and low-bottom the tone of her writing is not one of resentment nor excuse making. She doesn't brush past or around the gutter, but looks at the sloppy water like a reflecting pool. She owns her mistakes (there are many) and her style empowers the acceptance of these mistakes as steps to the great, mortal goddess she ended up becoming.

                          Whereas I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings reads more as a time capsule capturing both a child's coming of age story as well as life in general in different parts of the US Gather Together In My Name focuses more on Maya's interpersonal demons and struggles to live her own life. There's not as much captured of American life compared to the former. Overall I think the more personal struggle of Maya learning to mature and become an adult resonates with me more between the two books. Still, picking one is like picking between your favorite child. Nearly impossible and not at all plausible.

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                          • Fresh Tendrils
                            Strike Hard and Fade Away
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 36131

                            #913
                            Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                            Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                            I'm 99% of the way through Well of Ascension. I have been fairly impressed by the improvement of writing from the first installment. It has room to breathe and add small details. The narrative itself feels more nuanced and admittedly it's been a fantastic ride.
                            Mistborn: The Well of Ascension by Brandon Sanderson

                            Whatever flaws I had found in the first book of the trilogy were thoroughly addressed in the second installment. As a result I loved this book from start to finish. The action, as he had established in The Final Empire, remains imaginative and thrilling. I love the system of "magick" Sanderson has developed and he uses it to great affect throughout as he weaves into the narrative and continues to build upon the established lore. The lore of the universe continues to build upon itself and finds inclusion throughout the narrative in very satisfying ways as characters find themselves connected to the world they're now shaping. The balance of intrapersonal and interpersonal struggles is fascinating as the simple caper story of the first novel is replaced by ideological and political balancing acts.

                            Most impressive to me, however, was how greatly the writing improved as a whole from the first book. The narrative remained nuanced, the world continues to be fleshed out, the characters continue to develop in fascinating ways, but the writing felt like it had room to breathe in The Well of Ascension (no pun intended). Perhaps it's because Sanderson had already created the separate parts of the Mistborn universe or maybe it's an author starting to come into his style, but whatever the case it's a noticeable improvement. There's time for thoughtful phrases, nuanced detail that comes off more off-offhandedly, and none of the screenplay script feel from The Final Empire.

                            To be honest I'm surprised this grabbed me by the nape of the neck like it did. I enjoyed the first book and it's ambitious imagination, but felt it was lacking in some areas compared to other fantasy series. Admittedly the writing quality picks up, but the story itself is what really grabbed me from start to finish. A siege standoff with political maneuverings and character drama. It sounds like the summary of Game of Thrones, but Sanderson does an amazing job of handling all the pieces and putting them in place by the end. I think this is one of those rare instances that not only improves upon it's predecessor, but also makes the predecessor better. To me it felt like I was reading one of my favorite Harry Potter books for the first time and I would put it on par with any of the genre's best offerings.

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                            • Kearnzo
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5963

                              #914
                              Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                              Speaking of Sanderson, I'm currently wrapping up Words of Radiance, book two of the Stormlight Archive.

                              Never have I been so engrossed in a fantasy series. I loved GoT, but in my honest opinion, Stormlight is another animal altogether. I absolutely love the characters and the world Sanderson has built, and it pains me to know that after Oathbringer, I'll be waiting some time for book 4. Gonna have to look into the Mistborn series to tide me over until then.

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                              • Fresh Tendrils
                                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 36131

                                #915
                                Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                                I added that series to my list since it sounded right up my alley.



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