OS Book Club Pt II

Collapse

Recommended Videos

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • mattlanta
    MVP
    • Aug 2008
    • 2384

    #886
    Re: OS Book Club Pt II

    Anyone here use GoodReads to track the books they've read or are currently reading? I've had it for a year now, and it's nice to have a community of friends to track what they're reading and such. But part of me would still rather write down the name of the book and the author on a simple note file on my laptop lol.

    Comment

    • Fresh Tendrils
      Strike Hard and Fade Away
      • Jul 2002
      • 36131

      #887
      Re: OS Book Club Pt II

      Originally posted by mattlanta
      Anyone here use GoodReads to track the books they've read or are currently reading? I've had it for a year now, and it's nice to have a community of friends to track what they're reading and such. But part of me would still rather write down the name of the book and the author on a simple note file on my laptop lol.
      Oh yes. It's quite an addiction at times between giveaways and adding more and more suggestions.

      Chase has 525 books on Goodreads, and is currently reading The Exorcist by William Peter Blatty and The Vampire Lestat by Anne Rice



      Comment

      • Chip Douglass
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2005
        • 12256

        #888
        Re: OS Book Club Pt II

        Who Lost Russia? by Peter Conradi.

        Concise, well-written, and engaging overview of the deterioration of US/Russia relations from the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 to the present.

        Not much new in the book that people familiar with the topic aren't already aware of, although I was surprised to learn that Putin pretty much told the US as early as 2008 that any hint of a sign that Ukraine was drifting from Russia's orbit would lead to a Russian invasion of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. It's a well-balanced account: while Conradi is very critical of the democratic backsliding in Russia under Putin's regime, he also makes clear that the US has been insensitive to Russian concerns, such as NATO expansion to Russia's doorstep. A useful counterweight to the reflexive demonization of Russia you see in the media today.
        I write things on the Internet.

        Comment

        • DieHardYankee26
          BING BONG
          • Feb 2008
          • 10178

          #889
          Re: OS Book Club Pt II

          The Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller

          It's a retelling of the Iliad, so the story is probably at least somewhat familiar. Not a ton to say, it's a well told story. Told from the point of view of Patroclus, the son of a king who is taken as a prisoner and eventually ends up falling in love with Achilles. I knew more about the general outline of the story, and the role of the gods than the people, so there was a lot to learn for me. I have always like mythology, just thought it was cool, so I wasn't surprised to like this. If reading about war is interesting, reading about a war where a dude shot an arrow and a god guided it for him is even better. There is an innocence to the way the story and the relationship of Patroclus and Achilles is portrayed that makes it compelling to read. There's not a ton of god interference and the story is not a retelling of the Trojan War so much as its a retelling of the journey of Achilles to fulfill his destiny as the greatest warrior of his generation. The story is pretty straightforward, it's just that the writing is so well done and the almost poetic language used goes well with the emotional beats of the story and time period.

          Spoiler


          Pretty great, definitely glad I read it before Circe as apparently Circe follows her during the Odyssey, which takes place directly after this so hopefully there will be a familiarity with some characters. Odysseus is the man.

          Gotta figure out what's next, there's been another glitch in the slate matrix, and I'm choosing between A Well Regulated Militia, Locking Up Our Own, and with doubling up on fiction and trying to knock out Neil Gaiman's Norse Mythology in the 3 days between now and God of War coming out.

          Kratos won out, need to know who I'm decapitating. Norse Mythology it is.
          Last edited by DieHardYankee26; 04-17-2018, 04:41 PM.
          Originally posted by G Perico
          If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
          I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
          In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
          The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

          Comment

          • Fresh Tendrils
            Strike Hard and Fade Away
            • Jul 2002
            • 36131

            #890
            Re: OS Book Club Pt II

            Return of the King by J.R.R. Tolkien

            It took me a little bit longer to read than I had planned, but I'm glad I took my time with it. Some days I would read only a chapter while other times I would read 50-60 pages. Compared to the first two the prose in this is significantly more definitive. More than once I felt like I was reading from the King James' Bible. The tone is definitive sounding - there's no question of what happened and the words themselves are more regal and nuanced.

            Considering the abundance of religious allegory this evolution in diction makes sense and further pushes the symbolism of Aragorn, Gandalf, and Frodo as parts of a trinity. As I came to the end I realized that while each of the three characters push the action of the world very seldom does Tolkien take us inside their heads. Instead the reader is more often in the hobbit feet of Sam, Merry, and Pippin. The despair, doubt, and unflinching loyalty of each creates a stream of emotion and feeling on every page. Tolkien does a fantastic job of placing these hobbit voices inside the reader's head, but he builds a beautiful, lush world around them that is so vivid you can hear the crush of leaves, the blow of wind through the grass, or feel the darkness of a brooding, clouded mountain.

            It has been an amazing experience reading the trilogy. Each goodbye (and there are many) is met with a small pain in the heart, a wetted corner of an eye, and slight tremble of the lip. The extended journey is fascinating both in it's scope and it's execution. Tolkien's world building is second to none and he does it in such a way that requires little to no back-story. It creates an effect in a world that is changing and has been living for a very long time. The world feels both new and old simultaneously as a new age gains ground and the Third Age comes to a close.

            Someday in the future I hope to read the trilogy as a whole back-to-back.

            Spoiler


            On to Fahrenheit 451 (which is relatively short) and then Circe.



            Comment

            • DieHardYankee26
              BING BONG
              • Feb 2008
              • 10178

              #891
              Re: OS Book Club Pt II

              Norse Mythology by Neil Gaiman

              Neil Gaiman, renowned fantasy writer, reaches back to stories he was told in his childhood that inspired him to write and create and retells them. Anything I know about Norse mythology is tied up in Marvel comics, so some of the basics were the same. The stories are interesting, especially the Norse version of Genesis I guess. I'd like to learn more about the people and cultures who created and believed in the myths but that's the work of another book. This one, tells the stories of Odin, Thor and Loki from the beginning to the end, Ragnarok, which as Heimdall puts it, isn't officially the end but is a new beginning. Pretty cool read, it reminded me of the Hobbit in the way you can see them explaining natural phenomena through the myths, like Thor grips a salmon too tight and now all salmon are thinner near the tail, and also in that it's written like a children's book, straightforward with a little magic behind it. My favorite 3 stories were Before the Beginning, which tells of how things came to be and how life was created when Odin and his brothers slew Ymir, Treasures of the Gods, where Loki ends up unintentionally commissioning Mjollnir, and Ragnarok, which is just epic. Thor traveling to the land of the giants was a fun story as well. I can't wait to see what God of War does with some of these characters. I imagine all of Loki's children as they've been described here will make an appearance, as we've already seen Jormungundr, the Midgard serpent that wraps its entire body around the FLAT EARTH. Expecting Hel, and more importantly, Fenris Wolf.

              Spoiler


              Ready to play God of War, moving on to reading The Female Persuasion.
              Originally posted by G Perico
              If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
              I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
              In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
              The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

              Comment

              • DieHardYankee26
                BING BONG
                • Feb 2008
                • 10178

                #892
                Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                The Female Persuasion by Meg Wolitzer

                Fiction book following a college freshman, Greer Kadetsky, as she meets a prominent feminist and has her worldview shaped by her. There were parts I liked quite a bit and parts that I could've done without. The closest thing I've read to this is probably Little Fires, it has a similar change of perspective and follows different characters for chapters and is almost as if not a little less compelling to read. It's something I'd recommend to someone who just wants an easy read, not as heavy on the topics it covers as I might expect. It deals a lot with issues that women face but mostly in an indirect way, as Greer works for a women's charity. Around 60% through it got really interesting and I was eager to see how it ended but it kinda simmers back down. Not a must read at all but not a bad one at the same time. For as long as the book is (400+ pages, not a huge book or anything) , it feels kinda empty looking back. It very briefly touches on the topics I would've thought it would focus more on.

                Movie rights have already been figured out, and Nicole Kidman is gonna play the older feminist Faith Frank. It seems like the kind of book where they can make a movie equally as good if not better.

                Been getting through Locking Up Our Own by James Forman Jr, he's following the history of African American officials in DC as they tried to battle the issues coming up out of the 60's and 70's to today. Very interesting so far, it's just amazing how perspective and unforseen circumstances change opinion on things.
                Originally posted by G Perico
                If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

                Comment

                • Fresh Tendrils
                  Strike Hard and Fade Away
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 36131

                  #893
                  Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                  I have that on my list. Not sure when I'll slot it in. I'm enjoying my time with Circe at the moment. So far it feels like an Olympian memoir.



                  Comment

                  • DieHardYankee26
                    BING BONG
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 10178

                    #894
                    Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                    Locking Up Our Own: Crime and Punishment in Black America by James Forman Jr.

                    James Forman Jr., a former DC public defender and son of a prominent civil rights advocate, follows the history of the Black community in DC (arguably the best place to base a study like this given the demographics) supporting tough on crime policies that play a role in the system of mass incarceration we see today. Separated into 2 parts: Origins and Consequences, each part has 3 chapters. The chapters in the first part deal with fighting against marijuana legalization in the early 70's coming out of the heroin epidemic of the 60's, which I had not known was nearly as bad as the crack era of the late 80's. Given the image of marijuana at the time as a gateway drug, it does make it a little more understandable the stance. Chapter 2 deals with gun control, and how the sides were split between those who supported gun control as an attempt to disarm drug deals vs. those who saw guns as a last resort self-defense method against either those drug dealers in neighborhoods where cops didn't bother to police or others who mean harm. Chapter 3 deals with the rise of Black cops and how the people who championed the need for Black cops as those who would be more understanding and less likely to judge harshly were not the same who became cops, who had completely different goals (just doing their job).

                    Chapter 4 is about supporting long sentences and mandatory minimums for gun and drug offenses, both as a way to guarantee equal punishment (stop favorable sentences from judges on one half and harsh ones on the other) and to deter future crime. Chapter 5 is about the crack era and how it was so devastating that it led to a new style of policing where policeman acted more as soldiers in an occupied space. Chapter 6 is about supporting stop and search policies, and how targeting policing in certain areas created higher disparities in crime than there truly are. He presents a ton of information, it's a pretty direct timeline and he tells some stories of his own clients in the meantime, one who was arrested for selling $10 of heroin and got off on a technicality while facing a max of 25 years and having turned down a plea for I think 5 years.

                    Spoiler


                    Reminded me a lot of Just Mercy. Takeaway being that the system we have today was built by tons of smaller separate parts that people didn't connect at the time but that are now clear in hindsight, and that it should be a cautionary tale in how we respond to crises in the future.

                    Going into A Well-Regulated Militia by Saul Cornell, which is a historical study of the opinions that led to the writing of the 2nd amendment and the arguments that have been used for and against through time. After that I'll do Fahrenheit 451 before the movie next weekend, then Heads of the Colored People, and Enlightenment Now. I'll probably slip something fun in after that, maybe a Star Wars EU book or something.
                    Originally posted by G Perico
                    If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                    I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                    In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                    The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

                    Comment

                    • Fresh Tendrils
                      Strike Hard and Fade Away
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 36131

                      #895
                      Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                      Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury
                      I'm hesitant to call this a dystopian novel since it's oppression is fairly harmless comparative to other novels. There's no mass subjugation of people - no hindrance in emotions, thought control, or independence of society - that is too far removed from reality. Books have been outlawed, but there's no mention of an over-reaching ruling class. It's a result of an ever-changing society valuing books less and less. The censorship isn't about protecting any governing or ruling body, but to protect feelings from being offended.

                      It's an interesting concept and state of affairs. Typically there is some truth to all dystopian novels - some threads from reality that can be traced to the author's alternate. Bradbury's world doesn't necessarily feel like an alternate, but rather an organic, consistent progression from our current reality. His ability to not only create different worlds and times, but to also draw them close to our own is amazing. In Something Wicked This Way Comes he does it by poetic-nostalgia. The Martian Chronicles establishes a planet whose human colonization resembles that of America. In Fahrenheit 451 he makes a huge change to our current society that from the on-set seems completely reasonable. In these ways Bradbury pulls the reader into his world because there's already a sense of familiarity with it.

                      Perhaps it's unfortunate I read Something Wicked This Way Comes first. It's poetic flow and equally poetic narrative immediately overtook my mind and is hard to shake off. Each book of his thereafter I will forever measure to it. As such Fahrenheit 451 doesn't quite reach the pinnacle of the other. The narrative is fairly straight-forward as Guy Montag, firefighter and burner of book, awakens his mind and self to the constricting nature of reality and his current station in life. The dialogue spans the spectrum of serviceable to poetic monologue and doesn't feel as consistent as his other works.

                      Still, Bradbury's valleys would equal many authors' peaks. Fahrenheit 451 is an interesting and provoking read that touches upon culture of mass consumption, progress, and think. The manipulation we allow ourselves to be part of for the sake of comfort and ease. There's a lot to decipher and discuss in this short book. Even more parallels to modern societies. While it doesn't immediately become a pinnacle of my favorites it's easily a book I look forward to revisiting in the future.

                      Spoiler



                      Comment

                      • Fresh Tendrils
                        Strike Hard and Fade Away
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 36131

                        #896
                        Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                        Circe by Madeline Miller

                        Those I have told about this tremendous book I have summarized as reading similar to an Olympian memoir. Circe is born to Helios and from there we follow her through her life as a Greek goddess -from her time in her father's house, her time in exile, and finally her release.

                        Circe chronicles many Olympians from her perspective. It's fairly interesting perspective. Many of these gods are ingrained at birth and as such they always feel powerful, faultless, and pristine. Circe does away with all that. Driving home the faulty, dirty personalities of the divine. Circe herself pushes to not necessarily be better, but to be different. From the onset she is ostracized and her naivety prevents her from unraveling the coarseness of others' pride and greed until she experiences that coarseness head on.

                        While the narrative is straight-forward and simplistic it pushes forward a character who is striving to live in a world that pushes her down or to the side, but to also try and wield her own power and push back in any way she is able to. The book's themes revolve around this identity - oppressed females pushing back and wielding their own power as they can - and pushes a pace that never seems to languish no matter how trivial some of the moments are. Circe remains an engaging and interesting character throughout the book.

                        The big surprise for me was the introduction to Madeline Miller's style of prose. I'm hesitant to call it simplistic simply because it isn't, but it reads that way. Everything flows rhythmically. Each sentence and word pointedly working a character or major theme. I suppose succinct is the apt term here. Nothing felt wasted and her ability to craft a sentence that elicits an exact feeling, thought, or image was incredible.

                        The entirety of the book was a pleasure to read. I took my time with this by mostly reading it a chapter or two at a time in the mornings before work, but I could also see myself being entranced for a full weekend and reading straight on through whenever I decide to visit this again.


                        Spoiler


                        Currently I'm reading Mistborn - The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson. So far it's an intriguing read with imaginative world building. I'm nearly halfway through with it. I haven't decided what I want to read next - if I want to jump into the second book of the Mistborn trilogy or something else. Either way I don't know what that something else would be. I feel like I need a little break from the traditional novel. Perhaps it's time to pick back up with Maya Angelou's memoir series? Or perhaps some kind of non-fiction - maybe DuBois' Reconstruction text. Or for something completely different the poetry book The Princess Saves Herself In This One.

                        I was also made aware of a new book by H. Jon Benjamin (Sterling Archer, Bob Belcher) titled Failure Is An Option. I've never done the audio-book route, but this seems like an obvious one for that format since he reads it himself.



                        Comment

                        • DieHardYankee26
                          BING BONG
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 10178

                          #897
                          Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                          A Well-Regulated Militia by Saul Cornell

                          Attempts to derive the meaning of the Second Amendment at the time it was written, and follows the way the changes in society have affected the way the amendment has been viewed. He argues that the original conception of the amendment was that citizens could keep weapons for the express purpose of defending their colony/state from foreign and domestic threats. He argues that the term "bear arms" had an understood relation to military service at the time, and that it was also understood that self-defense was an issue handled under common law and not under constitutional law. Also, in a time where a standing army was thought to be an instrument of subjugation more than defense, a militia was the closest thing they could come up with to defend themselves. The other issue ended up being that some believed that the states had a constitutional right to rebellion hidden in the 2nd amendment, that it entitled them to use their militias against the federal government if need be, and that was squashed many times, if not by courts, then by the Civil War.

                          I'll try to paint the picture in as few quotes as possible:

                          Spoiler


                          So a ton of quotes. Crazy how many different interpretations can be taken from that single sentence, not that the history matters all that much I guess. Still, interesting to know...
                          Originally posted by G Perico
                          If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                          I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                          In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                          The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

                          Comment

                          • DieHardYankee26
                            BING BONG
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 10178

                            #898
                            Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                            Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury

                            Fresh pretty much said everything about this one. The thing that I noticed in relation to Something Wicked is I almost feel like Bradbury is too creative to be restrained in a world so bland. He really had the opportunity to showcase the way he manipulates language to create images in a mystic carnival setting, which sits halfway between reality and nightmare. It's kinda constraining to flex that much muscle in just a regular environment, he needs more room to stretch, a creative sandbox almost. Anyway, the writing is still haunting at times, though he does spend a lot of time just kinda wading from moment to moment. I almost wonder what this would've been in a short story format.

                            Spoiler

                            Barracoon: The Story of the Last "Black Cargo" by Zora Neale Hurston

                            First off I absolutely have to read an authorized biography on ZNH, she is just someone who intrigues me to the highest degree. I can't figure her out at all.

                            Anyway, this is the story of a survivor from a slave voyage after the practice had been constitutionally outlawed. The intro gets into how they worked that out but it's not the meat of the book. It's pretty short. The appendix and end notes are almost as long as the interview itself. The cool thing about ZNH is she writes in a way that allows her characters to come to life, she writes their speech out phonetically so you can almost hear accents, it just gives the subjects of the story a lot more humanity. Kossola, or Cudjo as he was named when he got over here because his African name was too long, was taken from his home in Nigeria, by another African kingdom and sold. He describes the kidnapping, the Middle Passage, there's a short chapter on slavery, but mostly it's just about his life. How he got on before and after Emancipation, how she sought him out after finding out about him and coaxed him into giving her the interview through gifts and shared experiences, like eating watermelon and crabs. There's a chapter where he talks about how his family came and went and it was just heartbreaking. To be robbed from your homeland and taken to a strange country, forced into labor, finally find some kind of solace in the new family you've built, and then lose that...just can't even imagine.

                            Spoiler


                            Heads of the Colored People by Nafissa Thompson-Spires

                            A collection of short stories about the contemporary Black middle class. Reading it had me dying. One in particular, Belles Lettres the exchange of letters between 2 mothers who are doctors over whose daughter is the reason for them not getting along despite being the only 2 Black girls was HILARIOUS. That was followed by a series of stories that follows one of those daughters. After that, she drops Wash Clean the Bones on you, about a nurse with a young baby, which is as affecting and somber as the other was funny. Just awesome to get such a wide range in a small package. Short stories are the move.

                            Spoiler


                            Now I'm going on a short story collection binge, starting with The Death of Ivan Ilyich by Tolstoy (more of a novella) and then others. I've got Chekhov, James Joyce, Baldwin, Alice Walker, DFW (Oblivion, and my hold just came up at the library so that will probably be after Ivan), Stephen King, and Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie on my list of possible reads. Should be a good time, I love the format. Much easier to digest often with the same impact if not more.
                            Originally posted by G Perico
                            If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                            I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                            In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                            The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

                            Comment

                            • Beantown
                              #DoYourJob
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 31523

                              #899
                              Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                              Bradbury is one of my favorites, but hard to disagree with enjoying Something Wicked over F451. I also read the former first, which could’ve had something to do as well.

                              Pretty excited to watch the HBO adaptation of it (I think it premieres tonight so I’ll watch tomorrow), though, with Michael B Jordan and Michael Shannon.

                              Comment

                              • DieHardYankee26
                                BING BONG
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 10178

                                #900
                                Re: OS Book Club Pt II

                                I'm intrigued...reviews are rough, I heard they changed the Hound into a drone lol. Should be interesting for sure.
                                Originally posted by G Perico
                                If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                                I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                                In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                                The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

                                Comment

                                Working...