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  • Hassan Darkside
    We Here
    • Sep 2003
    • 7561

    #1

    Confidence...

    Ok. Am I the only one that feels like dang near everybody has issues with self-confidence, self-worth, self-esteem, etc? I mean, it's probably a lot of people my age (20s) who still haven't accepted themselves yet, but seriously...

    It seems like a realization I've recently come to. Probably a lot because I was never the most confident person either, but my confidence has really grown over the last couple years. And the more my confidence grows and the more comfortable I become around other people, the more I sense their lack of confidence in themselves. Even in people I would never have suspected. And it makes sense to me, I suppose. I sometimes see that weird looking guy with the girl that looks way out of his league and feel confused, but now I'm starting to think that practically all females (young ones anyway) have some kind of lack of confidence.

    And then sometimes I feel like "Men are surely better" but then I remember all those nights downtown with my posse of friends who didn't have the cajones to go talk to a girl. And I've now befriended girls (like friend-zoned them, gotcha bitches!) and it's almost the exact same way with them. And I know all you guys are like "avoid girls with baggage" but dang, who doesn't come with at least a purse full of crap? They seem to go hand in hand to me.

    For me, my confidence grew with me being put to the test doing a lot of things I'm normally not comfortable doing. With my job over this past summer, I had to work with a lot of people (I typically prefer to put my head down and work alone), do a lot of public speaking, talk with new students and parents, etc. Stuff I typically wasn't comfortable doing, but I did it because I had to do it and it helped me immensely. I also had to really change my perspective of myself and what people though of me and really look at myself from an objective point of view and I realized "Well dang, nobody really cares..."

    I don't know...What are your thoughts on confidence? How do you guys build your confidence? Was there some "defining" moment? Lord knows there's some cocky SOBs on this site.

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  • cjonesfan921
    UGH, next year
    • Jan 2005
    • 20081

    #2
    Re: Confidence...

    It is something I have noticed as well.

    I feel like I gained my confidence at an early age, at least, earlier than most.

    I see a few of my friends now, and I can tell they lack some confidence from within, but try to mask it.

    It is definitely more profound in females though. Any little thing "off" and it is the biggest problem in the world, it kills their self-esteem and in turn, confidence in themselves.

    I'm 23, I now weigh about 205, the most I have ever weighed. I can definitely stand to lose at least 25 lbs seeing as I'm only 5'7", 5'8" on a good day; however, I do pretty well with women.

    I guess everyone needs something to make them feel confident, and most people thing of looks right away, so they hit the gym.

    To me, I found confidence with intelligence. I found solace in knowledge and learning. That gave me confidence to be able to hold an intelligent conversation with any and everyone. Once people get over the fact that looks are only part of the equation, they will feel better about themselves.

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    • Fresh Tendrils
      Strike Hard and Fade Away
      • Jul 2002
      • 36131

      #3
      Re: Confidence...

      For me, it was realizing that I shouldn't depend on other people to determine my happiness and self-worth. That is half the battle. I enjoy hanging out with friends and going out and all of that, but I don't "feel bad" if I'm just chilling at my house most nights. I can do things alone and I'm happy with that. I don't need to have company all the time and I think a lot of people need to have that company to have fulfillment. The best evidence I see of that is facebook. I think the more active people are with pictures and updates, the more "confirmation" they need from other people that what they're doing is good.

      Going outside your comfort zone is good, too. Its never as bad as what you expect and in the end you feel good because you've noticably grown as a person. Personally, I started gaining more confidence when I started taking better care of myself (eating right, exercising = 40lbs buh-bye) and doing things without worrying about what people think. Also, I make it a point to look at myself in the mirror once a day and go over what I think my best traits are (physically and personality-wise), because if you can't stand to look at yourself in the mirror then how can you have self-confidence?



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      • Feared
        Train Nsane or remainsame
        • Dec 2004
        • 6621

        #4
        Re: Confidence...

        Really good question, and something I've been thinking about recently. I think you gain general confidence by going out and learning new things, and once you get better, more experienced you'll have almost no hesitation going out and performing whatever tasks you wanted to do.. It will be like Second nature to you. Like when you start Lifting Weights, or Rowing, Fishing, Cooking... whatever lol it's like getting on a Bicycle when you're a kid. You might fall a few times, but just keep trying until you can control the momentum and you'll never go back.

        Now confidence when it comes to women is a completely different story IMO. I'm a pretty confident guy in general life, but when it comes to women I just have no clue what I'm doing. I could be hanging out with my guy buddies, having a blast, but then if an attractive woman enters the picture I'll just completely clam up and go quiet... Maybe I'm afraid I'll say something stupid and she'll say what a loser.

        It's something I definitely need to work on, if there's a cute girl at the grocery store, or mall I'll keep my head down or look the other way and avoid eye contact... and that just screams to her "Lacking Confidence." I know I need to stop worrying so much of how women view me, and just treat them like any other person or one of my guy friends... but it's hard when you look at them and you're physically attracted to them.
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        • ScoobySnax
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          • Mar 2009
          • 7624

          #5
          Re: Confidence...

          The reason is because we spend so much time ridiculing people and tearing them down. They hate on you for being different, they hate on you for going with the crowd. It's just a negative, hatin'-***ed generation we live in. No wonder why people can become so low on themselves. We have to build each other up.
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          • chia51
            Banned
            • Jul 2005
            • 1912

            #6
            Re: Confidence...

            Originally posted by Feared
            Really good question, and something I've been thinking about recently. I think you gain general confidence by going out and learning new things, and once you get better, more experienced you'll have almost no hesitation going out and performing whatever tasks you wanted to do.. It will be like Second nature to you. Like when you start Lifting Weights, or Rowing, Fishing, Cooking... whatever lol it's like getting on a Bicycle when you're a kid. You might fall a few times, but just keep trying until you can control the momentum and you'll never go back.

            Now confidence when it comes to women is a completely different story IMO. I'm a pretty confident guy in general life, but when it comes to women I just have no clue what I'm doing. I could be hanging out with my guy buddies, having a blast, but then if an attractive woman enters the picture I'll just completely clam up and go quiet... Maybe I'm afraid I'll say something stupid and she'll say what a loser.

            It's something I definitely need to work on, if there's a cute girl at the grocery store, or mall I'll keep my head down or look the other way and avoid eye contact... and that just screams to her "Lacking Confidence." I know I need to stop worrying so much of how women view me, and just treat them like any other person or one of my guy friends... but it's hard when you look at them and you're physically attracted to them.

            Feared,

            You answered your own question about women... just as you said, "You might fall a few times, but just keep trying until you can control the momentum and you'll never go back."

            With women its no different, if you find them attractive and want to talk to them, just do it! If she rejects you, oh well... there are many more women out there. Plus you will know what didn't work and then you can figure out a different approach next time, another plus about just doing it, is that you will gain the confidence in just doing it for then next time.

            With my self confidence, it wasn't until I just said "f*** it, why do I care what others think, this is my life... and if I want to do something... just do it."

            I am still working on getting my wife to "let go" and just do it (whatever it may be) she is close but still gets caught up with what other people think.

            Bottomline though... just do it and move on whether its a good outcome or 'bad'... because even with the bad, you can always turn that into good later on. Just my 2 cents.

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            • Feared
              Train Nsane or remainsame
              • Dec 2004
              • 6621

              #7
              Re: Confidence...

              Yeah man, the thing is I know I have this problem and I have all the answers in my head but when I get out there it's just different, I can't put to practice what I've been telling myself.

              I've been friend zoned by so many Girls in the past, that I almost feel that I know that's what is going to happen if I approach a girl. My friends say I'm too much of a nice guy, but I don't want to change who I am to appear like more of a "Bad Boy".

              I'm just going to keep being who I am, and If by fate's chance I end up meeting a girl that I can click with then so be it. I will try to work on the little subtle things like looking more confident in public, and making some sort of eye contact.
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              • Fresh Tendrils
                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                • Jul 2002
                • 36131

                #8
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                With girls, its simple. If she shows interest in me then I'll continue, if not then I'm not going to parade around with her for no reason. Its about them chasing and wanting to be with me as much it is me wanting to bag them. Relationships are cool, but dating kind of sucks.



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                • cjonesfan921
                  UGH, next year
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 20081

                  #9
                  Re: Confidence...

                  Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                  With girls, its simple. If she shows interest in me then I'll continue, if not then I'm not going to parade around with her for no reason. Its about them chasing and wanting to be with me as much it is me wanting to bag them. Relationships are cool, but dating kind of sucks.
                  Dating sucks, but easy. You don't have to spend to date, I learned that quickly. If you really want to gauge a girls interests, plan 'cheap' dates. If you live close to the shore then a walk by the beach, or some crap like that.

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                  • Fresh Tendrils
                    Strike Hard and Fade Away
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 36131

                    #10
                    Re: Confidence...

                    Originally posted by cjonesfan921
                    Dating sucks, but easy. You don't have to spend to date, I learned that quickly. If you really want to gauge a girls interests, plan 'cheap' dates. If you live close to the shore then a walk by the beach, or some crap like that.
                    It's not so much the costs as it is the time spent, though eating out is ridiculous no matter where you go.

                    That's why cooking in is going to be my go-to for the next 6 months haha.



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                    • areobee401
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                      • Apr 2006
                      • 16771

                      #11
                      Re: Confidence...

                      Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                      It's not so much the costs as it is the time spent, though eating out is ridiculous no matter where you go.

                      That's why cooking in is going to be my go-to for the next 6 months haha.
                      Cooking in is always the way to go. The number of advantages are limitless.
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                      • Pokes
                        Bearer of the curse
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 4538

                        #12
                        Re: Confidence...

                        I get what you mean. I know a few people these days that you constantly end up being their own personal cheerleader. I think tools like social media have really enabled some people to do this.
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                        • RGiles36
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                          • Jan 2008
                          • 3960

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                          Originally posted by Ruff Ryder
                          I don't know...What are your thoughts on confidence? How do you guys build your confidence? Was there some "defining" moment? Lord knows there's some cocky SOBs on this site.
                          Good thread.

                          I find myself interested in this topic. I'm not someone who totally lacks confidence, but I'm not oozing with it either. I'd certainly like to increase it, but I think a portion of that comes along with age and experience.

                          I feel I need more confidence as far as where my career is headed and my financial goals. I'm getting more secure in this area, but I still need to believe in myself more. I think what triggered that lack of confidence initially was not going to college right after high school. Instead I started my life, acquired a sizeable car payment, lived at home, etc. On the other hand, all of my best friends did go to school, and they're reaping financial benefits now. I have a respectable job, but nowhere near my potential. I'm not clearing 30K and I've been at my current job for over 5 years. So certainly, while I was happy for my buds, it was a disappointing feeling seeing them 'cake up' while I perceived myself to be pigeon-holed into the same position for so long.

                          Today @ 25, I can say that I obtained my Associate's degree earlier this year and am working towards my Bachelor's. Education isn't the end-all-be-all I know, but it has boosted my confidence and provides hope that I will catch my break and get that money .

                          Before anyone says anything, I am thankful for the job that I have. I know in this economy, there are people would gladly be in my position. I don't ever lose sight of that. I just know the things I want and deserve for myself, and that's what drives me.

                          Confidence with women is a whole 'nother topic. I've always had success with women for the most part. Not b/c I have top-notch game or anything. But rather I'm not the ugliest guy in the world I'll just say . But I still was previously timid about meeting new women. These days (and perhaps this came with age), I'm more relaxed and confident. For those that have confidence issues with meeting women, I'd suggest getting a book. I had a book about confidence in general that touched on meeting new people. It didn't change me, but it did preach good habits that I retained (walk with your head up, make eye contact, don't take criticism so seriously, etc).
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                          • BestServedCold
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                            • Jul 2010
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                            #14
                            Re: Confidence...

                            I have literally 0 confidence. If I build any up it erodes unbelievably fast.

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                            • Feared
                              Train Nsane or remainsame
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 6621

                              #15
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                              Originally posted by BestServedCold
                              I have literally 0 confidence. If I build any up it erodes unbelievably fast.
                              Interesting, do you mind explaining any further? If you're comfortable of course.

                              Is it do you not feel good about the way you feel/look? or do you just have bad experiences where people bring you down every time you try project yourself up?

                              If it's because of looks/feel do you think you could gain confidence by getting in shape, and working out if you saw results?

                              Thanks.
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