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  • slickdtc
    Grayscale
    • Aug 2004
    • 17125

    #1

    Bullying

    Anyone ever been a victim of bullying? I know it's a hot topic in schools today, and is being recognized more and more. Which is a good thing. I know growing up, there were a few kids who got a lot of crap from people and it always rubbed me wrong. I tended to just stay quiet, neither participating or stopping the bullying. Sometimes the kids bring it on themselves a bit (not saying they deserve it), but a lot of times it's just not right.

    The reason I'm bringing this up is that my future brother-in-law is having a problem. And it struck me a bit more because he's 21 years old and we go to the same community college (albeit different campuses).

    There's a clear reason why. He's gay. I've been living with my fiance' and her family for the past month now, and it doesn't bother me one bit. In fact, I forget that he is until I'm reminded. He's just a regular kid though, and is actually one of the wittiest and funniest dudes I know. He's not even flamboyant about it... yeah you can tell, but he's not out there wearing an all pink jumpsuit and talking with a lisp and waving his hand around. But the people in his class are whispering behind his back about him, and he can hear it all. It just pisses me off, these people should be beyond that high school bull****, yet they're still forming their cliques and making fun of people. He doesn't deserve to be treated that way when he's paying to go to this school to better himself.

    I just don't know what he can do about it. Nobody wants to cause a scene and call these people out, and you can't really go run to your Mommy & Daddy or tell the teacher like you could growing up. I'm thinking maybe me & some of my friends can go to class with him and if we hear anything, let these people know that it's not going to fly. I'm not big and I'm certainly not a fighter, but having some people on your side never hurt... then again, I don't want him to get made fun of for us having to have his back or something.

    I was kind of on the fringe going through high school... pretty normal dude, I was cool with the cool people (not exactly "friends", though my closest friends were) but always found it easier to identify with the nerds and geeks... they always seemed easier to break into their group. So I guess maybe a few times someone would try to start something but it never really evolved into anything, and I was always quick to just smile & laugh and kind of turn the whole thing into a joke. Plus, on the inside, I was a bit paranoid and was always trying to just live up to the norm and not be out of line and an easy target to get picked on so I avoided any potential conflicts. So I don't have much experience in this myself.

    It just seems like an impossible situation. Anyone got any advice or experiences in this kind of stuff?

    * If this gets too touchy, feel free to close. Don't want it to get to that, and hope it doesn't. And for those who don't feel comfortable sharing, don't hesitate to PM me. I'm just trying to figure out a solution to this problem and help out someone I care about.
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  • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
    Next Miami Great
    • Dec 2008
    • 4285

    #2
    I don't see why he cares about what people are saying. If they aren't physically harming them then who cares. Just develop tougher skin. My cousin get talked about all the time an its because he's extremely weird. He doesn't care tho because

    1. He would kick their *** if it ever gets physical

    2. It's not gonna stop him from trying to become successful in life.

    Your always going to have people who talk about others. It's probably never going to change. A good *** whopping usually shut people up. Most will say don't fight back with violence or whatever but most **** talkers are just **** talkers so a good as whopping takes care of that. Just tell your him to stand up for himself. If he's not gonna do that then he needs to develop thicker skin an keep it moving. Your not gonna always be there to fight his battles.

    I probably gave terrible advice but hey at least its something.

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    • Gotmadskillzson
      Live your life
      • Apr 2008
      • 23429

      #3
      Re: Bullying

      If he is in college no matter the age he is, he can always go tell the campus counselors or Dean. You and your friends going up there is just going to cause legal problems for you. Technically you could be arrested for it because it would be classified as mob action.

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      • WDOgF0reL1fe
        MVP
        • Apr 2005
        • 3427

        #4
        Re: Bullying

        Can't stand bullying man.
        I was bullied a little bit in middle school and first year or two of high school.
        Only got in one fight because of it, but other than that I tried not to let it bother me.

        Guess what?
        These days (10 years later) I have run into the main guy who bullied me on multiple occasions. He worked with me for a bit at buffalo wild wings and he works at a hipster fast food store now.
        I'm not gonna lie, this kid is a total freakin loser now. It's hilarious, and he tries to talk to me like I know him and we are best buds. I just laugh at him and make sure he knows that I don't respect him at all for what he did. (I don't bully him now or anything. I just don't let him be friends with me or even act like we are)

        Basically, it sucks for a small period of time. But because it's college (which shouldn't be happening anyway, but it's community college so basically an extension of mostly failed high schoolers who haven't grown up) it really is for maybe 1 - 2 hours of a day, 2 or 3 times a week.

        College is so big that these "Cliques" will barely ever be a problem for him. Just reassure him it will be over before he knows it, and as long as it never gets physical or really offensive he will be ok.

        And in 5 years or less he may be able to get the last laugh as to how these people end up in life.
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        • trobinson97
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          • Oct 2004
          • 16366

          #5
          Re: Bullying

          Iam Incredible said it best, he just needs to develop a tougher skin. It sucks, but that's just the way it is. You can't stop people from talking about what or who they want to talk about. It's not like they are just outright harassing him are they? I mean they aren't stopping him in the hallway between class to talk down on him, or physically assaulting him in any way right? If not, he's gonna have to be a big boy and deal with it, because that's just the world we live in and no amount of discussion on OS is going to change that. There are always going to be *** holes.

          If you were talking about a child, that's one thing. You go to the school, talk with the teachers and principal and they in turn talk with the students and the student's parents. You keep doing it until it stops. In this case we're talking about a grown man who is having some things whispered about him. You just gotta harden the **** up in this instance.
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          • p_rushing
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2004
            • 14514

            #6
            Re: Bullying

            Originally posted by WDOgF0reL1fe
            Basically, it sucks for a small period of time. But because it's college (which shouldn't be happening anyway, but it's community college so basically an extension of mostly failed high schoolers who haven't grown up) it really is for maybe 1 - 2 hours of a day, 2 or 3 times a week.
            Agree. With it being a community college, just deal with it. You aren't living on campus, most of the people will drop out anyways, and you only have deal with them in class. Unless there is some kind of group work, you would have to even talk to them.

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            • WazzuRC
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              • Dec 2002
              • 5617

              #7
              Re: Bullying

              Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
              I don't see why he cares about what people are saying. If they aren't physically harming them then who cares. Just develop tougher skin.
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              Originally posted by trobinson97
              Iam Incredible said it best, he just needs to develop a tougher skin. It sucks, but that's just the way it is.
              I don't exactly agree with this. Mental abuse can be just as impactful as physical abuse.

              I think he needs to confront them about it, by straight-forward with them, and then let the chips fall where they may.

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              • jeremym480
                Speak it into existence
                • Oct 2008
                • 18198

                #8
                Re: Bullying

                Bullying sucks and it just isn't isolated to high school and college, as there are plenty of people who have to deal with it in the workplace too. Unfortunately, no matter what action he chooses to take there are no guarantees that they will leave him alone. I somewhat agree that he should just try to ignore them and hope that they eventually let it go, but that's easier said than done. My best advice is for him to just do his best to get through this semester, then once it's over make sure that he doesn't have any classes with them next semester. I know that's the the passive aggressive route, but if he chooses to go another route- tell the dean, confront them, etc. then I just see things getting worse for him.
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                • TheMatrix31
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 52901

                  #9
                  Re: Bullying

                  I was bullied for a few days in like 2nd grade by a 6th grader. My older bro came to school one day and threatened him and I had no trouble with that dude after that.

                  Also made fun of for my weight for a bit during middle school, but nothing terribly crazy.

                  Other than that, nothing I can really think of.

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                  • Bellsprout
                    Hard Times.
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 25652

                    #10
                    Re: Bullying

                    Surprisingly, I never really was bullied.

                    Only one dude ever tried. He was a freshman (I was a junior at this time) who apparently thought high school was what you see on TV shows. So, trying to make a name for himself or something, he decided he wanted my chair at lunch (despite the fact that there were plenty others). So he walks up, tries to yank the chair out from under me, but I hold onto it and remain in the chair. So he just starts dragging the chair (with me in it) around the lunchroom trying to fling me off (all the while, I'm yelling "WHEEEEEE!!!! FASTER!"). After like 20 seconds of that some senior that I'd never met or talked to walked up to him, said "Stop. We don't do that here." and then sure enough, he stopped and I went back to my lunch.

                    It was hilarious.
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                    • Weeks
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                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2990

                      #11
                      ^^^haha that sounds like something that would happen in a movie.

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                      As far as bullying goes I don't really have much advice as it has never been a problem for me.
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                      • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 17294

                        #12
                        Re: Bullying

                        I know this might sound way too easy/not really solving the problem, but has he tried just moving to a different seat in the classroom? I don't know how it works at his community college, but in my classes, it's like 50-60 people per class and you can sit anywhere you want so he could just move to the opposite side of the room or something. Personally, I always sit in the back corner of the class (but that's just because I like to see everything around me lol)

                        Edit: I never really got bullied in school at all. I was friends (and by friends I mean I hung out with them even though I don't really care about them anymore) with people that were in with the cool crowd, and despite the fact that I was clearly somewhat nerdy (National Honor Society, top 10 in my class, in the school band, etc), I made up for it by being sarcastic as **** and playing basketball. However, our waterboys/assistants were also students in my grade and they got made fun of a ton. One of them was actually allowed to play for us for his Senior Night after the other two seniors and I begged the coach to let him play and he was able to get in and score on a free throw. I felt so great for that kid. But anyways, these two kids had some special needs and some of the younger players (JV and a couple on Varsity) used to make fun of them like crazy, and when this one kid was allowed to practice with us, they would try to just flat out embarrass him by any means necessary. This kid was kind of a hacker anyway, but it was just something that I kinda just brushed off because I understand his situation. But anyway, our coach would basically make fun of anyone that wasn't able to score on this kid every single time they got the ball so when our assistant stopped the same kid 3 or 4 times in a row and outhustled him for a rebound, this kid just absolutely went off and tried to fight him. I was always viewed as the quiet white boy on the team that never got emotional and always seemed to be laid back, so when I got up in this kids face and told him to back the **** off, it pretty much silenced the entire team. Looking back, I hated that team. The seniors and one of the juniors were really cool, but our coach was racist towards me, flatout abused us, and these younger kids were all punks/wannabe gangsters that gave our school a bad name. For example, one of the players (19 years old now I believe) just got arrested today for murdering some chick that refused to have sex with him. Great area.

                        Note: Sorry about the rant. Haven't had a good night at all and yeah, just kinda blowing off some steam lol.
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                        • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                          Next Miami Great
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4285

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WazzuRC
                          I don't exactly agree with this. Mental abuse can be just as impactful as physical abuse.

                          I think he needs to confront them about it, by straight-forward with them, and then let the chips fall where they may.
                          Of course mental abuse can be just as impactful as physical abuse but if the guy getting bullied isn't going to stand up for himself then thats on him. He's in college, he's a bit too old to be having someone else come to his rescue over being " bullied" If he's scared of confronting them for fear of getting beat up then continue to get talked about.

                          Most people who spend their times talking about others just need to get told off on good time an see that your not gonna take their **** an it will stop. It's rare that it gets physical an if it does then kick their *** or take your lumps an carry on with your life. Too be honest I'm 95% sure a confrontation wouldn't get physical for fear of getting kicked out of community college.

                          I got bullied one time in my life. In middle school I was a short fat little kid. I usually minded my own business but this one tall kid kept bothering me at the bus stop every day. One day he choked me from behind (don't remember hoe it got to that point). Like a whimp I didn't do anything back. I went to school, went home an told my mom.

                          My mom then beat my *** when I told her I didn't fight back. We got in the car an we went to the kids house. She got in a huge argument with the kids dad demanding he fight me now (my mom's crazy). It didn't happen tho. So the next day I was already embarrassed because I got puked in front of everyone an my mom had to fight my battle for me.

                          I made up my mind. When I seen him the first thing I did was call him out for choking me from behind. When he got close enough I punched him right I the nose. I'm sure it caught him by surprise. He was bleeding and well that was that. I think he was too embarrassed to ever pick on me again.

                          I seen him a few year back an asked why he always picked on me. He simply said " I don't know , you just looked like a bitch." I just laughed because I probably did look like one back then but that's still no reason to pick on others. I'm in damn good shape now an haven't been picked on since. People just need to have some self respect an stand up for themselves. Say something an if it gets violent then so be it.

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                          • TheMatrix31
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52901

                            #14
                            Re: Bullying

                            I always think about the kid in Australia who beat the **** out of his bully. That truly made me happy and proud.

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                            • jb12780
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                              • Oct 2008
                              • 10665

                              #15
                              A little bit when I was in middle school. I have tough skin and i don't give a **** what people think about me.

                              Its also ironic. The people who busted my balls are now flipping burgers and pumping gas. Im going to college, playing rugby, and i just took my first civil service exam.

                              Karma's a bitch.

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