Let's talk about...The Dreaded Friend Zone

[TheMatrix31]

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Chicks are way more trouble than they're worth. I'll stick with that.

The time I spend thinking about all their BULL****, I could be watching sports, eating, drinking, or any of the other stuff I like to do.

They're simply not worth the time. You'll find a chick when you find a chick. Sometimes the chick finds you. All this effort, all this thought, all this nonsense to try and understand the female mind is just an exercise in futility.

[LBzrule]

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Why would you even care about the friend zone? Live with an attitude of abundance and the friend zone is nothing you even care about. There are too many women out there that could be compatible with you and where attraction exists between you and them. After having a battle with limiting beliefs, I never worry about the friend zone.

Secondly, I'm going to be honest up front. I'm not taking you out on a date at first. I would like to sit down and have a conversation with you. I can find out more in that conversation and if I want to continue than going on a date where everyone is nervous and feel obligated because money and gifts are exchanged. I'll date you later, but can we talk first. This whole thing will be what you make it. I wouldn't fall for the trap of doing things in today's conventional way either. Save yourself the drama.


The best thing anyone can do with women is leave nothing up for guessing. You don't have to fear the friend zone if you are up front in the first place. Tip toeing in and not having other women to talk to will get you in the friend zone. In the end, four points are very important.

1) Be up front. Don't hide intentions. Hiding intentions is actually being dishonest and not aligning yourself with the truth.

2) Meet as many women as you can and the friend zone is something you don't even care about.

3) Approach women like you are a detective trying to find out information. You are not looking for an outcome yet. A good detective puts pieces of information together to form a picture. This is about finding out information.

4) Don't be in a hurry to get in pants. That's a pretty difficult thing but it is prudent in the end.

[LucasWVU]

I think that's a very young thing to think.

Honestly, if you respect her/him, you don't wait around for them to finally change their mind. First of all, it lowers yourself, and second, it makes you seem like a damn vulture trying to make their move.

If she/he doesn't want you, then move on. You can be friends, but being "besties" with them does not work.

Move on. If she doesn't want you, there are plenty of other fish in the sea. I think the problem is that in high school, you are so isolated from the rest of the world, that you truly don't understand that point. There are so many other females in the world that you cannot just get stuck on one like that.

I agree with you 100% except for the vulture part. I understand I have a lot to learn!

[Hassan Darkside]

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Thread is useless without TarHeelMan anyway.

[AUChase]

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If there was ever an OSer who needed a Twitter account, that didn't have one, it would be TarHeelMan.

[BunnyHardaway]

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If there was ever an OSer who needed a Twitter account, that didn't have one, it would be TarHeelMan.

It's too bad we can't make a parody THM account that just tweets random things from his past posts.

[cjonesfan921]

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My current gf (not sure how long it will last anymore) 'zoned' me, and I just ignored her, because as was said before, just move on. I don't see the point in being friends at that point, and then a few weeks later, it was different.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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In high school, I lost out on almost every girl I liked to my best friend while I got thrown in the dreaded "Friend Zone With The Girl That You Like But Is Dating Your Best Friend" zone. That. ****ing. Sucked.

I ended up in a situation with this one girl where she was like in love with me and I completely friend-zoned her, and then like the next year, I had a thing for her and she friend-zoned me, and then the next year we ended up liking each other for a couple weeks but ended up wanting different things and then I finally just moved on from that.

Anywho, in high school, the whole "nice guy" thing was basically a bulletproof plan for getting friend-zoned, but in college, I've found that girls have matured enough that they'll go for a nice, funny guy over a douchebag. Generally if you get friend-zoned for being a nice guy when the girl wants a badass, it's because they aren't mature enough for a healthy relationship anyway.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I don't have problems with being friends with a girl, much less if that involves trading advice and generally being good friends to each other.

However.

If you going after a girl to date/bump and dump then I don't see the point because you're just punishing yourself. If you don't want to be friends with the girl, then don't allow yourself to be. She rejects you? Take it like a man and either step your game up or move on to the next girl.

I just don't see the "friend zone" as being beneficial to the male when that's not at all what they wanted in the first place. Its like a damn holding cell except people rarely get bailed out.

[bigeastbumrush]

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In high school, I lost out on almost every girl I liked to my best friend while I got thrown in the dreaded "Friend Zone With The Girl That You Like But Is Dating Your Best Friend" zone. That. ****ing. Sucked.

I ended up in a situation with this one girl where she was like in love with me and I completely friend-zoned her, and then like the next year, I had a thing for her and she friend-zoned me, and then the next year we ended up liking each other for a couple weeks but ended up wanting different things and then I finally just moved on from that.

Anywho, in high school, the whole "nice guy" thing was basically a bulletproof plan for getting friend-zoned, but in college, I've found that girls have matured enough that they'll go for a nice, funny guy over a douchebag. Generally if you get friend-zoned for being a nice guy when the girl wants a badass, it's because they aren't mature enough for a healthy relationship anyway.

Women never mature.

It's a fact of life.

[areobee401]

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Incorrect.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Women never mature.

It's a fact of life.

I respectfully disagree.

Some may not, but the same is true about guys. Just ask my 23 year old brother that still acts like he just turned 13.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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MOST Women do mature but then there are some things they do/say and it leaves you like "Come on now, WTF?".

Don't fool yourself either. She knows exactly what she is doing by allowing you to stick around. Women are up on game too.

You're giving them too much credit now.

[TarHeelMan]

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I'm the mayor of the Friend Zone...I think I'm gonna be stuck here forever . I'm way too nice, which is a huge problem. If I ever try the "be a douche" route, it comes off as extremely forced and I end up screwing myself that way. I've pretty much given up...if I'm meant to not be a loner, a girl will come to me.

You don't have to be a douche to the females in order to get yourself out of the friend zone. Just be "unavailable". these broads like to keep you around to vent, to co-sign their foolishness, without any responsibility or obligation towards you. Keep yourself unavailable, emotionally distant. She's trying to talk to you about some other dude? Change the topic, talk about one of her homegirls... She's going on some estrogen-fueled rant? Change the topic, or tell her you ain't a woman and you don't wanna hear that kinda talk. Some broads can't handle this, and they'll run away, effectively canceling themselves out from the mathematical equation of your life. If this happens, they weren't worth hanging around anyway.