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  • Lieutenant Dan
    All Star
    • Sep 2007
    • 5679

    #16
    Re: Violent Video Games

    Originally posted by 13
    Violent video games are only as damaging as the parents of the child allow them to be.

    Parents that let their kids raise themselves on TV and the internet is the bigger problem at hand here.


    With no parents guiding them, establishing the moral compass by which a child should live, what more can we expect from those same children as adults, when they've been living their whole life with an altered sense of reality?

    Which is why I'm old school. I'll scold my kid in public, I'll spank his *** when he does something wrong, and I'll damn sure make sure he knows that entertainment is not reality, which it seems like a lot of children now have no grasp of.

    I couldn't believe I saw a trending topic a few weeks ago, #cutforbieber. Basically kids saying they were going to cut themselves everyday until Bieber stopped smoking weed. I was speechless. I had never seen something so ludicrous, but that small sample helps paint the larger picture of the problem with our society today.
    Originally posted by King88
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    Parents need to be parents, if they are paying attention they should be able to see abnormal behavior such as aggression and violence. Some parents don't want to do their job and raise their children. That is more dangerous than any video game or movie ever created.
    This whole thread comes down to these posts.

    Great job guys; that's what I was trying to convey but came out as a ramble LOL.
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    • PVarck31
      Moderator
      • Jan 2003
      • 16869

      #17
      Re: Violent Video Games

      COD has sold how many copies this year? Few million? How many people of those few million went on shooting sprees?

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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #18
        Re: Violent Video Games

        Originally posted by PVarck31
        COD has sold how many copies this year? Few million? How many people of those few million went on shooting sprees?
        By my count 1.
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        • WildFan22
          Pro
          • May 2009
          • 932

          #19
          Re: Violent Video Games

          Originally posted by Lieutenant Dan
          Nice point, but I also agree with SPTO about parenting.

          In this age we live in, parents have to be in touch with what their kids are watching on tv/movies/webz, listening to, or playing (videogame wise)...and their internet activity. How much each parent allows is up to them and what they feel their kid can understand. If your kid is prone to acting out, then GTA is probably not a good plan.

          Also, parents need to know that a kid can differentiate what's real and what's a game/movie/show. I've had discussions with my son about film and tv and gaming many times to make sure he can distinguish real from fantasy, and he's real good about that.
          This is a great point because it takes the parenting aspect a bit further. Not only do you need to talk with your kids and explain what they are seeing but you also need to know where your child is at mentally. My three children are all very different in what they can handle compared the others when they were the same age.

          I was exposed to about as much violent media as one could find as a kid. My parents owned a chain of video stores so I was also able to see any violent movie or video game I wanted. At a young age I was drawn to violent games and I use to search high and low for the most violent ninja movies of the 80's.

          I don't let my kids have the same freedoms that I did because I think seeing Terminator when your 6 might be a bit much. That being said I never acted out, brought a weapon to school, threatened authority, or wanted to kill anything. It was never real to me.

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          • dingleberryfinn
            Banned
            • May 2010
            • 1736

            #20
            Re: Violent Video Games

            I don't worry too much about violent video games ever getting banned,
            it's just too slippery of a slope to decide what's violent.
            WWE, UCF & Madden are all, in some way, violent & if games like Halo, CoD
            & GTA are banned, you can bet someone's going to want WWE, UCF & Madden banned also.

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            • PVarck31
              Moderator
              • Jan 2003
              • 16869

              #21
              Re: Violent Video Games

              Originally posted by CMH
              By my count 1.
              And apparently he was severely mentally ill.

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              • TarHeelMan
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                • Jul 2002
                • 7853

                #22
                Re: Violent Video Games

                It's the parenting. My sons know that there are boundaries. We have DirecTV, but I'm thinking about cutting it out, because I don't think that the time we watch it justifies the bill we're paying monthly. Even with the stuff that they ARE allowed to watch, you still need to monitor it somewhat because there are little slick things that are thrown into the entertainment. A lot of the shows on Disney/Nick show parents to be buffoons and idiots, and the kids are the smart and intelligent ones. Basically teaching an environment of disrespecting the parents. That's where parents come in, they need to let the kids know that's not cute.

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                • mgoblue
                  Go Wings!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 25477

                  #23
                  Re: Violent Video Games

                  Originally posted by TarHeelMan
                  It's the parenting. My sons know that there are boundaries. We have DirecTV, but I'm thinking about cutting it out, because I don't think that the time we watch it justifies the bill we're paying monthly. Even with the stuff that they ARE allowed to watch, you still need to monitor it somewhat because there are little slick things that are thrown into the entertainment. A lot of the shows on Disney/Nick show parents to be buffoons and idiots, and the kids are the smart and intelligent ones. Basically teaching an environment of disrespecting the parents. That's where parents come in, they need to let the kids know that's not cute.
                  I would agree...

                  Also, there have always been these psycho kids out there. People just blamed other things in the past, and we didn't have quite the weapons 100 years ago where someone could kill as many people...
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                  • Kevin26385
                    EA Game Changer
                    • May 2004
                    • 5147

                    #24
                    Re: Violent Video Games

                    +1 for parenting.

                    I started playing Grand Theft Auto III when I was 11 and managed to have a normal life free of violence...minus this time where I smashed my brothers Green Bay Packers helmet on the sidewalk.

                    But seriously, it is all about the parenting in this situation. Playing the Grand Theft Auto series at 11 is way too young. However, my parents sat me down and explained the difference between virtual reality/real world and what is acceptable behavior.

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                    • Chaos81
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                      • Mar 2004
                      • 17150

                      #25
                      Re: Violent Video Games

                      I can't wait until people start blaming crappy sports games for the increasing obesity rate.

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                      • Ollienyy
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 275

                        #26
                        Re: Violent Video Games

                        Honestly I don't have a problem with video game violence, as an adult I will steer myself away from the ones I don't want to play. It's the under 17's that worry me. You hear the 12 year olds squeaking away on COD, GTA dropping racial, sexual slurs and you just wonder what the parents must be thinking if they heard this stuff. On more then one occasion I have demanded (especially if the Brat has a Kinect) to speak to a parent and told them what their child has been saying, what they have been doing etc and more often then not the parents are apologetic and promise to keep an eye on their kids more. We need to make the ratings more 'enforceable' of which the only way I can think is to go after the parents. Stop the main source of supply for these kids getting the games and the problem will die down a little (I'm not naive, kids will get the game however they can)

                        I work in the movies as an assistant editor and have worked in a variety of genres. I remember as a 20 year old doing a horror movie for Universal and having to look on a daily basis at a fake body being hacked up on a scene we were cutting. I am perfectly fine. The thing that always makes me chuckle is that for the MPAA we have to give and get detailed notes on how long said violent scenes last, what can be trimmed, how much language is contained, and it's usually because they are concerned about minors viewing it, even if it's an R Rated movie.
                        Last edited by Ollienyy; 01-17-2013, 08:13 PM.
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                        • PVarck31
                          Moderator
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16869

                          #27
                          Re: Violent Video Games

                          Originally posted by Chaos81
                          I can't wait until people start blaming crappy sports games for the increasing obesity rate.
                          My son is bad at football (don't really have a son) because Madden is so bad.

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                          • roadman
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 26339

                            #28
                            Re: Violent Video Games

                            Parenting is part of it, no doubt, but there are other influences as well.

                            Not everyone is the same, we are all different.

                            Lt. Dan talked about growing up in the disco era and 80's. We would go to the mall and leave our car unlocked in that era. Now, we don't think twice of locking doors.

                            Our boys play WOW, and the oldest plays COD, BF, etc...... These boys are A's and B's students and one is straight A's. They don't sit on their rear ends 24/7 playing video games.

                            And that is another huge difference between my childhood and our sons. We used to play baseball everyday till the sun went down in the neighborhood, same with football, capture the flag, shooting birds with slingshots, playing strip poker with the neighborhood girls, lol etc..... that's when there was usually a parent home during the day.(except for the strip poker lol)

                            Now, both parents are working to make ends meet and put food on the table. Huge difference. We live out in the boonies in a neighborhood that doesn't encourage kids to hang out and play football till sundown, etc.......

                            Once, I did a hypothesis in college that TV and movie violence causes a higher chance of someone committing a crime. I couldn't prove my hypothesis based on a questionnaire we completed.

                            Sound like the same ish is happening today, just a different era.

                            Let's not forget in the same era I was growing up in, rock stars tried to protect their art against the people attacking their lyrics. That is why you have warning labels on CD's.

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                            • Cusefan
                              Earlwolfx on XBL
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 9820

                              #29
                              I knew this was going to happen as soon as the NRA said violent video games were to blame(then releases a game a month later). Politicians have wisely smartened up as the Video Game lobby is quite powerful and gamers are not going to vote for someone advocating the demise of Violent Games. Us gamers are a powerful group if we chose to be.

                              What I find funny is that the NRA membership is getting old and shrinking yet they slam something millions of young people enjoy. I would not be part of something that uses video games as a scapegoat.
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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #30
                                Re: Violent Video Games

                                Originally posted by PVarck31
                                And apparently he was severely mentally ill.
                                Exactly.

                                I also realize my comment could have been taken the wrong way. I was definitely agreeing with you because one in a million are slim chances.
                                Last edited by PVarck31; 01-18-2013, 12:59 AM.
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