You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

I'm not going to go to much into this, but this kinda of stuff scares the crap out of me. Why couldn't every body just tackle this "cop" and make a citizens arrest for attempting to "abduct" and hold "hostage" someone for nothing?? What gives the right to just "take" someone and lock them up. Walking down the street, just run up and arrest them for what......WALKING.....yea that sounds legit. What about sitting in a parking lot on your cell phone...***ns up and arrest them.....FOR TRESPASSING....yea that sounds right also.

Man this kind of abuse of power just chaps my ***. Such as this, just burns me up
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I could break this down too but not going to waste my time. So many variables to take into account here.

[Phobia]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

Trespass
Officer working as an employee of the business on private property = you can be told to leave the property. If you refuse to leave you are subject to 2nd degree trespass. Officer can arrest for misdemeanors committed in their presence.

Resisting arrest
Subject was clearly resisting arrest from the officer. Failure to comply with verbal commands of the arrest process and not simply letting the officer place the handcuffs on. The officer used reasonable force to take the subject into custody.

Issues I see:
Did officer have visible markings that he was in fact an officer?
Did officer have PC to try and search the aluminum can?
Is this state different with regards to how an officer working off duty at the location can act as an agent of the private property? (NC you can tell them to leave or be arrested)

I'm sorry but I would resist also, I would not just LET a cop come up and arrest me for no reason. That is insane to think a cop can just walk up and arrest someone for zero reason and BECAUSE the person does not just shoot rainbows of joy and jump in the backseat of the car like its a field trip he is "resisting" arrest. Hell yea more people should stand up to this behavior.

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

Apparently you didn't even read what I wrote smh. Arrest for no reason? Yep I said that


You already have your agenda, good day.

[Phobia]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

I could break this down too but not going to waste my time. So many variables to take into account here.

So when I'm hunting and a cop comes up to me he has the right to take my weapon? Why can't I walk up to you and say I feel threatened you are walking in a convenient store with a loaded weapon?

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Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

I'm not saying the cop isn't in the wrong or an idiot. But if he is that "arrest happy", he would be easy to set up (maybe he has a rep in that area....dunno). I just found the beginning of the vid kind of odd and that it didn't pick up from where the situation was getting out of hand, like you might expect. The vid started before the cop walked up. I think there's a little more to this in light of that.

The guy had just got there..said he was waiting on someone whom he thought was right behind him. The guy now has a court case and this cop is probably going to get chewed up by the lawyers

Its been all over the news from what I've seen this far...the guy that was asked to leave the property did leave, and there were no alcohol charges brought up.

[Phobia]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

Apparently you didn't even read what I wrote smh. Arrest for no reason? Yep I said that


You already have your agenda, good day.

You said he was resisting arrest and I said who wouldn't what is the agenda?

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Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

Come on guys you both are good members lets not roll down this road.

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

So when I'm hunting and a cop comes up to me he has the right to take my weapon? Why can't I walk up to you and say I feel threatened you are walking in a convenient store with a loaded weapon?

I can't speak on anything without clear cut parameters.

You can walk up to me and say that if you would like.

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

You said he was resisting arrest and I said would wouldn't what is the agenda?

Did you not read about the trespass portion?

The subject just committed a misdemeanor in the presence of the officer.

I listed everything there, both good and bad by both parties. I'm not biased at all, just calling it how I saw it.

I'm open to a civil, mature conversation.

[Phobia]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

Come on guys you both are good members lets not roll down this road.

Look I have like 5 buddies in my local police force here, it is NOTHING against cops. Yet they will agree also that they can abuse their power. So yea my point is this kind of stuff is getting out of hand. Power can be extended to far and this is becoming more and more the case it seems.

I have no issue with ND, I'm just failing to see the justification is both that does not break a American citizens right to some of these simple freedoms.

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

Look I have like 5 buddies in my local police force here, it is NOTHING against cops. Yet they will agree also that they can abuse their power. So yea my point is this kind of stuff is getting out of hand. Power can be extended to far and this is becoming more and more the case it seems.

I have no issue with ND, I'm just failing to see the justification is both that does not break a American citizens right to some of these simple freedoms.

I would also agree that officers abuse their power. It's disgusting and we just had one fired here two days ago for lying on a time sheet to an off duty provider similar to this liquor store in the video.

You're taking the thread off course with your personal feelings.

This thread is about the original video which I went through and illustrated what my observations were from a professional point of view.

The subject was told to leave private property and refused to do so. That is a violation of law and is subject to arrest. The arrest was legal.

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Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

I hear ya Phobia, I was just getting the feeling while reading that the convo was escalating and might go a bit too far. But that could've been me and I probably just should've stayed out of it.

[daflyboys]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

The guy had just got there..said he was waiting on someone whom he thought was right behind him. The guy now has a court case and this cop is probably going to get chewed up by the lawyers

Its been all over the news from what I've seen this far...the guy that was asked to leave the property did leave, and there were no alcohol charges brought up.

I get that. I just found it odd that video footage is being take of a pretty common, even boring, event; the guy who got arrested speaks about drinking iced tea; the camera pans to the iced tea; now we have an officer who has issue with this iced tea can.

[Phobia]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

I would also agree that officers abuse their power. It's disgusting and we just had one fired here two days ago for lying on a time sheet to an off duty provider similar to this liquor store in the video.

You're taking the thread off course with your personal feelings.

This thread is about the original video which I went through and illustrated what my observations were from a professional point of view.

The subject was told to leave private property and refused to do so. That is a violation of law and is subject to arrest. The arrest was legal.

Personal feelings yea I guess to a point. I have a strong love for this country and some of the things occurring scare me and when I see things of this nature yea it does drive me up the wall so yea I can admit I get a little heated with this stuff.

It is nothing personal between me and you. I'll just leave it at the fact, I love our country and some things are not looking good in my eyes.

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

I get that. I just found it odd that video footage is being take of a pretty common, even boring, event; the guy who got arrested speaks about drinking iced tea; the camera pans to the iced tea; now we have an officer who has issue with this iced tea can.

There are definitely a few pieces of information missing from the video.

I do laugh at the guys on the video when they act like you can't possibly put something OTHER than iced tea in that can. That is some sound logic right there!