You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

[AUChase]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

I can definetely see part of what you're saying. It's not just about isolated events such as this. The **** happens everywhere and a lot of times the consequences for getting bad information are a lot larger.

I've been in the middle of a "raid" that was intended for another house down the road before, while hanging at a friends house.

There are no questions asked. It's we're going to sling you on the ground and break whatever the **** we want and then ask questions later. It doesn't matter if we got the wrong intel and are in the wrong.

I have had a 40 caliber pistol pointed at my head from no longer than two feet away because of this same situation I'm referencing. What if he had pulled the trigger on accident ? I'm ****ing gone because they got the wrong intel and the wrong house.

So I get what you're saying for sure..

I'll explain in a little further detail..

I was sitting in my car about to leave actually and a friend was in front of me in the driveway. Three cars came over the hill and I thought to myself, "Damn.. more people showing up". Next thing I know, lights are on in the cars and a police officer is running across the front yard with his pistol out and he stops just shy of my driver side window with the .40 caliber pistol pointed at my skull.

My reponse, "Hold the **** up.."

Say I had flinched or moved the wrong way and this ******* had felt "threatened" and he decided to shoot and ask questions later..

[AUChase]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

Just to clarify. I don't necessarily have a problem with this sort of thing, if it's the right time and place. My first cousin is the chief of police in a neighboring city and is notorious for cleaning up the city there and the place he left before. He's had knives pulled on him, people attempt to blow him up, etc. because he stepped on the toes of prominent people in office who had direct ties to the scum he was taking off the streets. I have the utmost respect for him. I just hate how we sweep these situations that went wrong under the rug and there are usually minimal consequences.

We live in an act now and ask questions later society it seems.

Hopefully these two individuals in these videos were released and nothing came of it. It would suck to have an "arrest" on their record for the rest of their lives **** something up for them like a job or career just because some over anxious police officers handled a situation wrong.

[Knight165]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

I'm just using a more broad stance on it. Now yea you can take the justice system way but what if you don't get too. How about that 61 year old man that was killed just recently because the cops raided the wrong house and he thought it was a home invasion so he was shot and killed by the cops in front his wife. These kind of situations are just written as a "Opps" we screwed up. A guy is dead for a "wrongful arrest attempt". My point on this comparison is like knight said he would just "comply" , yet this man never had that option.

Now my original point was that a clear abuse of power can and does happen. So simply accepting it as that is just how it is, is not a good long term idea for us as a society.

Checks and balances exists so these kinds if situations don't happen. There is countless amounts of citizens arrests you can look up of cops breaking the law and people doing the right thing taking them down. Hell one guy arrested a cop and put him in his own cop car back seat.

My entire thing is we are all under the same rights and laws. No one is exempt from that.


Sent from da lil phone.

You're talking out of both sides of your ***.

You claim we should all be on "equal" ground...but I guarantee you that if you went to strike a P.O. and he beat the ever living snot out of you(a good bet) that you'd be crying about abuse of power.
It doesn't sound like you REALLY want equal ground IMO.

You also bring up some totally irrelevant events into this discussion.

The "cannibal cop" was not in the act of arresting anyone ...he was going to kidnap a woman(It was not in the course of his job).....he is a psycho.

The mistaken raid and subsequent mistaken thought of home invasion is tragic, but I don't see how further escalating the event would have been any better....take AUChase's following story....if he would have went after those P.O.'s....how would it have been "the right thing" to do?

I don't see what either of those has to do with the original video.
The P.O. was being DOCUMENTED making multiple procedural mistakes(and being a bit of a dick).....
A simple report to CCRB would have had him up on charges and a hearing.

M.K.
Knight165

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

Phobia,

There are terrible police officers out there. I could post several examples in my city alone. Your posts are filled with emotion and your over generalization of the thoughts/actions of the police are narrow minded. Fully dive into the scenario and think it out like a reasonable person before you jump to such conclusions.

You make so many sweeping generalizations that I know for a fact are false. I've seen them multiple times. It's not a perfect world out there and it is not as corrupt as you view it.

You seem rather set in your ways though.

I just ask to not watch the video and go with a first reaction. Think about the processes that go on in the video.

I do not feel exempt from anything. If anything I am more under the microscope than ever.

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

I was sitting in my car about to leave actually and a friend was in front of me in the driveway. Three cars came over the hill and I thought to myself, "Damn.. more people showing up". Next thing I know, lights are on in the cars and a police officer is running across the front yard with his pistol out and he stops just shy of my driver side window with the .40 caliber pistol pointed at my skull.

My reponse, "Hold the **** up.."

Say I had flinched or moved the wrong way and this ******* had felt "threatened" and he decided to shoot and ask questions later..

I'm interested in this, could you elaborate the rest of the story?

[Jukeman]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

I can definetely see part of what you're saying. It's not just about isolated events such as this. The **** happens everywhere and a lot of times the consequences for getting bad information are a lot larger.

I've been in the middle of a "raid" that was intended for another house down the road before, while hanging at a friends house.

There are no questions asked. It's we're going to sling you on the ground and break whatever the **** we want and then ask questions later. It doesn't matter if we got the wrong intel and are in the wrong.

I have had a 40 caliber pistol pointed at my head from no longer than two feet away because of this same situation I'm referencing. What if he had pulled the trigger on accident ? I'm ****ing gone because they got the wrong intel and the wrong house.

So I get what you're saying for sure..

I'll explain in a little further detail..

I was sitting in my car about to leave actually and a friend was in front of me in the driveway. Three cars came over the hill and I thought to myself, "Damn.. more people showing up". Next thing I know, lights are on in the cars and a police officer is running across the front yard with his pistol out and he stops just shy of my driver side window with the .40 caliber pistol pointed at my skull.

My reponse, "Hold the **** up.."

Say I had flinched or moved the wrong way and this ******* had felt "threatened" and he decided to shoot and ask questions later..

Man, I had similar thing happened to me a couple summers ago. I was with my uncle (who's a cop) going to pick up one of his cars from a shop down in South Philly. Thank god he was following me a few blocks away after we picked the car up because a **** load of cops pulled me over at a stop sign. Man, at least 3 cops surrounded the car with guns pulled out. I couldn't even find the button to roll the windows down.....That's how scared I was.

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

This thread has become: here's my story where I was in a tight situation with police officers.

Why did they initiate a traffic stop on you, jukeman?

[Jukeman]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

This thread has become: here's my story where I was in a tight situation with police officers.

Butthurt?

Geez, its a discussion and it's pretty relevant and not against TOS...

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

Butthurt?

Geez, its a discussion and it's pretty relevant and not against TOS...

So you don't recall why you were pulled over?

[XtremeDunkz]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

When I used to manage a store in the mall, my assistant forgot his keys when he was opening the one day, So I drove out there to bring him my keys. This is before the mall is open, way before, so there are no cars anywhere in this parking lot except for workers. I am leaving the lot, and am about to merge on the highway and i see lights out of nowhere, so when I get on the highway I pull into the shopping center immediately to the right.

The cop was camping the empty mall parking lot at 7 am, that should say enough right there. He walks up to the car asking me why i took so long to pull over. Like im sorry did you want me to pull over on the highway? I was thinking of both of our safety. He then proceeds to tell me that he pulled me over for not completely stopping at a stop sign. Now let me remind you that this is an empty parking lot, There is a slight chance that i coasted past the stop sign at 2-4 MPH. You know how you come to an almost stop but you know there is no way no one is coming so then you re accelerate. Proceeds to give me THREE TICKETS. I have to go to court, I get all three tickets dismissed but have to pay court costs and waste an hour of my day, smh.

[AUChase]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

My story was in relation to what Phobia was talking about.

No animosity towards police officers in general, just the situation.

I'll elaborate a little further when I get home and can type on a keyboard.

This thread wasn't realistically going to go very far discussing a single YouTube video without it getting into something similar like this.

We all have different opinions and so far everyone is expressing them relatively well without stepping over any boundaries.

[Jukeman]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

So you don't recall why you were pulled over?

Yea they were looking for someone who had a similar car which was an old black Marauder.

Completely ignoring the police stickers on the plates.


Edit-

Gawd... Info wars got they hands on this guy already lol

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

Yea they were looking for someone who had a similar car which was an old black Marauder.

Completely ignoring the police stickers on the plates.

The conducted a felony stop on your vehicle. Did they tell you what the person did?

If a BOLO comes out for a white male in a black Marauder and I see a match of that description I have reasonable suspicion to initiate a traffic stop. That's just an example. The BOLO could have been for a person that just robbed a bank. Sometimes we rely on imperfect witnesses and imperfect descriptions. Honest mistakes happen. I'm doubting they conspired to pick you out and just mess with you by pointing their guns at you during a traffic stop.

Those police stickers can be purchased at any local police store which are open to the public. They could very likely be purchased elsewhere.

Is it too much to ask people to think critically about these situations?

[NDAlum]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

I went ahead and checked out infowars

This stuck out to me

UPDATE: Infowars contacted the Fayetteville Police Department. We were informed the security officer who made the arrest was not affiliated with any official law enforcement outfit.
However, since liquor stores in North Carolina are run by the Alcoholic Beverage Control Commission, the hired security guard would be considered an agent of the state.

__________

I'm happy it wasn't a police officer, it was an over zealous security guard. His actions were questionable from the video as I originally posted.

__________

This also stuck out:

Hopefully, thanks to his friend filming the event, Beatty will have the evidence he needs to have his charges dismissed as the officer, if it turns out he actually is one, clearly had no initial probable cause to begin harassing him.

That shows the author of the article does not understand basic law terminology. Reasonable suspicion and probable cause are two very important phrases to understand when dealing with law enforcement. Neither is necessary to make a voluntary contact (or as this author puts it: harassment)

[Jukeman]

Re: You can really be arrested for drinking ice tea?

The conducted a felony stop on your vehicle. Did they tell you what the person did?

If a BOLO comes out for a white male in a black Marauder and I see a match of that description I have reasonable suspicion to initiate a traffic stop. That's just an example. The BOLO could have been for a person that just robbed a bank. Sometimes we rely on imperfect witnesses and imperfect descriptions. Honest mistakes happen. I'm doubting they conspired to pick you out and just mess with you by pointing their guns at you during a traffic stop.

Those police stickers can be purchased at any local police store which are open to the public. They could very likely be purchased elsewhere.

Is it too much to ask people to think critically about these situations?

I'm sure they had a very good reason for the stop I was in a very bad neighborhood as well but at the end of the day, what if I made a move that set off the group of officers? They were already yelling at me for not rolling down the windows on time because I couldn't find the right buttons.

They did not tell me what the person of interest did, cop just told me that they had a tip about a black Marauder. Crazy day that was.