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  • ryan36
    7 dirty words...
    • Feb 2003
    • 10139

    #1

    Your worst experience with car salesmen

    ...mine was today. I visited over the weekend to try to get financing. They called me back yesterday saying they had some options. They tried to put me in a car with the check engine light on, a car where the driver's side door doesn't work, and a car I liked with some cosmetic damage, an '07 Sebring.

    The sticker price was above blue book. I said "ok well that's the aftermarket warranty and the gap coverage." They said $360/mo, I asked how long is the loan for? The sales guy who was pretty cool said let me check. He came back and said 30 months. I did the math and said ok, overpriced, but I get it - I have crap credit. I would've paid a lot for the car but refinanced at some point. It was getting late, I was keeping them after closing so I asked the sales guy if he'd be there tomorrow. He said no, Saturday was his next day.

    I don't need a car, but I want one for my fiancee, I decide to think it over. I decide with my job I can afford it. I call this morning and say I'll take the car. The salesman who wasn't gonna be there today called me 20 minutes later , and I tell him I'll be there after work. Fishy, but ok, it was a sales trick.

    I call ahead to tell them I'm on my way. I sit there for like 45 minutes, and then we get started. They ask for information like pay stubs I already gave them, and they change my insurance for the new vehicle. I know the guy wants to get out of there... so I'm like ok, I can change it back. He tells me to put my stuff in the new car, and asks for the key to my trade...I recognize these as sales tricks, and I vow I won't be swayed.

    I look at the actual term and the loan for my "7,000" I was financing yesterday is actually 10,000 being borrowed... and the term is 18 months longer. I feel bad for saying no, and I try to talk to myself out of it... even by removing the warranty (1750) I couldn't get the borrowed amount down to what I wanted. By the time they show me the real paperwork, it's after closing again ...now I'm dealing with the finance guy. I finally back out, 17k is insane for a 9k blue book car.

    The salesman comes in and yells at me "dude that's TWO NIGHTS IN A ROW" and says something about "his effing family" he takes the yellow tag off the key to the trade-in and throws it across the show room and starts to get in the new car that had all my stuff in it. I ask him where they parked my truck he said, "I don't ****** know, somewhere back there."
    I said "dude that car has all my **** in it." He swears and says , "ok waiting on you dude! No problem." I drop a water bottle while I'm quickly moving my few things back to my truck. He says and don't forget that "******* water bottle you're littering my lot with."

    ...I'll go back there again. Wow. When you're selling something worth 10k, you should be professional.

    Also, I got a kick when the finance guy tried to show me he's losing $80 dollars on the car. They're gonna mark up my trade 1-2k, and there's like 100% markup on warranties and protection plans. They were gonna make 3k-4k . Just unbelievable.
  • Moses Shuttlesworth
    AB>
    • Aug 2006
    • 9435

    #2
    Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

    Yeah that dude aint gonna have a job for long.

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    • ryan36
      7 dirty words...
      • Feb 2003
      • 10139

      #3
      Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

      Originally posted by Moses Shuttlesworth
      Yeah that dude aint gonna have a job for long.

      Nobody at the dealership seemed taken aback by him. Young dude, ex-military. I actually liked him yesterday. I half expect him to come kill me since he has my address.

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      • FlyingFinn
        MVP
        • Jul 2002
        • 3956

        #4
        Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

        Rule number 1 when buying a car... Never rely on dealer financing. It is best to have financing arranged before you arrive at the dealer so you can negotiate on the true price of the car and not get screwed by their shell games. You can use dealer financing if they offer you 0% or something like that but don't rely on it. By having your own financing, you will know what you can really afford and not get lured in by their "monthly payment" tactics.

        Also, I also negotiate the price of the car I am buying before I tell them I want to trade in. That way I know what I am paying for their car and then we can negotiate what they are paying for mine.

        Lastly, (which you seem to already know) never be afraid to walk away if the deal isn't what you are comfortable with.

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        • UK0wnag3
          MVP
          • Apr 2012
          • 1210

          #5
          Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

          I don't have any serious advice, but I would recommend going back every day just to **** the guy off.
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          • Redacted01
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2007
            • 10316

            #6
            Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

            Originally posted by FlyingFinn
            Rule number 1 when buying a car... Never rely on dealer financing. It is best to have financing arranged before you arrive at the dealer so you can negotiate on the true price of the car and not get screwed by their shell games. You can use dealer financing if they offer you 0% or something like that but don't rely on it. By having your own financing, you will know what you can really afford and not get lured in by their "monthly payment" tactics.

            Also, I also negotiate the price of the car I am buying before I tell them I want to trade in. That way I know what I am paying for their car and then we can negotiate what they are paying for mine.

            Lastly, (which you seem to already know) never be afraid to walk away if the deal isn't what you are comfortable with.
            Rule #1 doesn't really apply in all cases. If you have horrible credit, then yes, you are going to get raped. But my parents financed multiple cars through the dealer using GMAC (I'm sure the one OP dealt with probably has far less credibility though) before they filed to become an actual bank. They never had a problem getting a good deal on a car and financing because they had good credit.

            What it really sounds like is OP went to some place like they had when I was back in NE Ohio called J.D. Byrider. They take advantage of people with poor credit who need a car and just drive up the financing so they make a killing.
            Last edited by Redacted01; 07-25-2013, 07:18 AM.

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            • PVarck31
              Moderator
              • Jan 2003
              • 16869

              #7
              Couple years ago I was looking to get a new Ford fusion. Went to a dealership right down the road from me. He ended up showing me a used fusion with about 6k miles on it. Right away I was a little skeptical but I figured I would let it play out. So I drove it, really liked it. They had 0% financing and I was looking to get 3-4k for my current car. So we start to talk price and didn't really get anywhere. So I left, which was my original intention. I knew they would call back the next day.

              So they do, and I go in and I know what I want a pay for the car and tell him. I should have mentioned ed this before. This guy was a dick. Super overbearing.

              So anyway, I'm looking at the car and I freaking notice a huge gouge in the lower part if the driver side back door. Now I know for sure that wasn't there there day before. I'm a pretty observant person and I'm not an idiot. When he walked back over I said what the heck is up with that gouge? He says what about it? That's why the car is so cheap. I said that wasn't there yesterday. He gets all defensive and asked if we are gonna a do this or not. I tell him that I don't like his attitude and won't stand for them trying to screw me . he said fine, I'm done with you. If you want a car you can talk to Rob over there. I seriously couldn't believe what just happened.

              So I start to walk out and "rob" runs me down and apologizes for what happened and tries to get me to look at other cars. I told him listen man, this is nothing against you because I don't know how you would treat me but I wouldn't do business here if it was the last dealership on earth. And tell "Jason" to go F himself.

              I left and Rob called me everyday for a about a week. Never answered and he finally quit calling.

              I need up getting g a Hyundai Sonata. Got a great deal all around, and treated like human.

              Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
              Last edited by PVarck31; 07-25-2013, 07:32 AM.

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              • C the Lyte
                Left side, strong side
                • May 2009
                • 2253

                #8
                Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

                Most of the time I'm the worst experience for the car salesman.

                They still get me though. They earn it.

                I'm coming up on time to visit one again soon.
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                • FreAk47
                  Straight cash homie
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 247

                  #9
                  Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

                  I can not stand car dealerships. Unless you are buying brand new, private party is really the way to go. You will likely get a better deal, and regular people are much easier to read on the quality of the vehicle. It's more work to arrange your own financing, and obviously if you have a vehicle you want to get rid of you will have to sell it yourself, but totally worth it.

                  Not that you can't find good deals through dealerships, it's just a pain in the *** to sift through all the shady games they play.

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                  • LowerWolf
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 12268

                    #10
                    Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

                    I've only bought two cars, but I took advice from my dad and didn't mess around either time. I did my homework and knew what a fair price was before dealing with the salesman. That included my trade-in. I always tell the salesman I don't care how he works the numbers, but bottom line is I'm paying X plus my trade.

                    They need to sell the car more than you need to buy it. Always remember that.

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                    • daflyboys
                      Banned
                      • May 2003
                      • 18238

                      #11
                      Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

                      Best line I got years and years ago was from a local dealership where I was living in Carolina, but I shopped all over the place in the entire region. When I told the local guy that I had a better deal from a place about 80 mis. away he honestly said to me, "but don't you want to keep your money in the county?"

                      Nice try.

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                      • slickdtc
                        Grayscale
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 17125

                        #12
                        Your worst experience with car salesmen

                        Damnit it Chase, why you gotta be such a dick to Ryan?!

                        Friggin' salesmen...
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                        • C the Lyte
                          Left side, strong side
                          • May 2009
                          • 2253

                          #13
                          Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

                          Yeah I've been waiting for Chase to chime in. But silence from the slimeball I see.
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                          • AUChase
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 19403

                            #14
                            Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

                            My goal is to get people into a vehicle that fits their needs and their budget. When I'm trying to sell someone a car, I take 20-25% of their monthly income at first and try to keep the payment less than that.

                            People come in wanting the nice new Charger and leave in the reliable, less expensive Impala or they want the nice BMW x3 and leave in a Ford Edge.

                            Our dealership averages 45 sold vehicles/month and in tax season months we sell 80+. That's not me overstating it. We get new shipments in every few weeks and are always rolling deals. I don't have to play games or put up a front with people. I'm honest, show them the numbers I'm seeing and if they don't like it.. I won't try convincing them to buy.

                            Car salesmen can be harsh, judgemental, but also extremely naive. The amount of sales that pass veteran salesmen by because they passed judgement on a 21 year old kid or someone who pulled up in a not so nice vehicle is staggering.

                            I passed on two dealerships when I financed my SS Cobalt at the age of 21. I knew I could get financed and my credit union was on stand by to write me a check.

                            Always remember you don't have to do business with anyone you don't want to. There are good salesmen and saleswomen out there. You just have to find someone that will respect you and your unique situation.

                            When you do, return the gratitude and always give that person a look first when you're shopping for future vehicles. My dad has purchased my mom's last three vehicles over the past decade from the same guy.

                            Also, drop the "tough guy" attitude if you have one. If you're at the right dealership, you shouldn't have to put on a front and be an *******. This isn't the old day where you should have to barter like you're at a flea market.

                            My dad purchased my mom's new Camry and didn't step foot in the dealership until he came in with a check.

                            Just my small take from the dealership side and a 23 year old.
                            Last edited by AUChase; 07-25-2013, 11:51 AM.

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                            • ESPNdeportes
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3459

                              #15
                              Re: Your worst experience with car salesmen

                              We looked at used cars at carmax, and had a good experience. Of course, we had no intention to buy there but wanted to try some various models out and that was the easiest way to do it. Their model must be the same margin/commission on any car so they definitely didn't try to push any particular model.

                              If you can (since you don't need the car you say), save the cash and buy used on craigslist or ebay. Best way to get a good deal. You can have the car checked out at a mechanic for peace of mind.
                              Last edited by ESPNdeportes; 07-27-2013, 08:11 AM.
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