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**PadresFan** · 08-22-2014, 03:53 AM

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Originally posted by bdolski

Anyone experience having their tonsils pulled out in their 20's? I'm 23 right now, scheduled to have em yanked when I get home in 4 months for winter break. I wad told to expect a 8-10 day recovery time, on an antibiotic for now, just not what to expect going forward and with the surgery.

I got them taken out two years ago... in my late twenties. I will send you a PM of my experiences in the morning when I get off of work....

**countryboy** · 08-22-2014, 07:19 AM

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found out that I have to have yet another procedure to rid myself of kidney stones/scar tissue.

The procedure is a ureteroscopy. Its highly unpleasant and the aftermath is horrible. Walking around with a stint in a sensitive area for 3 weeks is pure hell.

**mb625** · 08-22-2014, 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by ImTellinTim

So the alternative would be for ESPN to interview the family for his life story while they're making sudden funeral arrangements when they probably don't even know why he died yet? Get a hold of his friends and teammates while they're mourning? What would be a more acceptable action by ESPN?

I think that's a false dichotomy. Unfortunately though, it's not an unfair point. There are respectful and appropriate ways to cover something like this. They could have contacted the family and asked for their input on how they could have best covered this story, but of course that's not going to happen because why waste your time on some no name center from the MAC when there's money to be made off of guys like Manziel? The very least they could have done was to do what they normally do when they report on deaths- a few moments of silence then cut to commercial- rather than carrying on with business as usual when it's clearly not business as usual. Sickens me.

**rangerrick012** · 08-22-2014, 08:26 AM

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Originally posted by mb625

I think that's a false dichotomy. Unfortunately though, it's not an unfair point. There are respectful and appropriate ways to cover something like this. They could have contacted the family and asked for their input on how they could have best covered this story, but of course that's not going to happen because why waste your time on some no name center from the MAC when there's money to be made off of guys like Manziel? The very least they could have done was to do what they normally do when they report on deaths- a few moments of silence then cut to commercial- rather than carrying on with business as usual when it's clearly not business as usual. Sickens me.

But this just seems like picking on ESPN for the sake of nothing. Trust me we all know they have their flaws but, not for the sake of being morbid, people die every day. I'm sure the family of this young man have bigger worries then how much time their son's death got on Espn.

**LowerWolf** · 08-22-2014, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by countryboy

found out that I have to have yet another procedure to rid myself of kidney stones/scar tissue.

The procedure is a ureteroscopy. Its highly unpleasant and the aftermath is horrible. Walking around with a stint in a sensitive area for 3 weeks is pure hell.

Ouch. Just reading that makes me cringe. Good luck CB.

**slickdtc** · 08-22-2014, 09:05 AM

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Bachelor weekend starts tonight. My body... is not ready.

**LowerWolf** · 08-22-2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by ImTellinTim

So the alternative would be for ESPN to interview the family for his life story while they're making sudden funeral arrangements when they probably don't even know why he died yet? Get a hold of his friends and teammates while they're mourning? What would be a more acceptable action by ESPN?

Kent State put out a release. Without interviewing anybody, ESPN could have used some of that information to humanize the kid instead of using him as a lead-in to Braxton Miller. And if ESPN wanted to do some work, I'm sure his coach, and at least some of his teammates, would have welcomed the opportunity to talk about him.

It wasn't too hard for Cleveland.com:

Kent State football player Jason Bitsko found dead in his room

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/index.ssf/2014/08/kent_state_football_player_fou.html

Kent State football player Jason Bitsko found dead in his room.

**mb625** · 08-22-2014, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by rangerrick012

But this just seems like picking on ESPN for the sake of nothing. Trust me we all know they have their flaws but, not for the sake of being morbid, people die every day. I'm sure the family of this young man have bigger worries then how much time their son's death got on Espn.

The problem is that it's not just ESPN but rather media as a whole. As members of the media it's their job to report on things like this in a respectful manner. Media ethics (or the lack thereof) can kind of get me fired up and ESPN was, in my opinion, extremely unethical and inappropriate in their coverage of this tragedy. As CB said he was pretty much used as a lead in which is possibly the worst production choice you could make in that situation.

**rangerrick012** · 08-22-2014, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by mb625

The problem is that it's not just ESPN but rather media as a whole. As members of the media it's their job to report on things like this in a respectful manner. Media ethics (or the lack thereof) can kind of get me fired up and ESPN was, in my opinion, extremely unethical and inappropriate in their coverage of this tragedy. As CB said he was pretty much used as a lead in which is possibly the worst production choice you could make in that situation.

I don't think that was ESPN's choice, rather it had more to do with Everett trying to make a point about media coverage (overcoverage) in general.

**mb625** · 08-22-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by rangerrick012

I don't think that was ESPN's choice, rather it had more to do with Everett trying to make a point about media coverage (overcoverage) in general.

The fact that they had the Manziel/Miller graphic cued up immediately is almost a sure sign that it was planned and scripted to put that story directly following the Bitsco coverage. This was not a choice made by Everett but made by the producers. Otherwise Everett would not have said that with the voice inflection that he did.

**rangerrick012** · 08-22-2014, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by mb625

The fact that they had the Manziel/Miller graphic cued up immediately is almost a sure sign that it was planned and scripted to put that story directly following the Bitsco coverage.

Again I know that, but I'm saying it wasn't the networks choice. Rather it was the anchor's choice.

**mb625** · 08-22-2014, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by rangerrick012

Again I know that, but I'm saying it wasn't the networks choice. Rather it was the anchor's choice.

Scripting and planning on a large show like that is generally done by producers. Not by the anchor. So unless I'm missing something, this was not Everett's choice.

**SuperBowlNachos** · 08-22-2014, 10:05 AM

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Not sure if anyone still keeps up with the new episode of Mythbusters, but the three build team people are leaving the show. Last night was their last episode they would be on.

MythBusters Stars Kari Byron, Tory Belleci and Grant Imahara Are Leaving the Show

http://www.eonline.com/news/571864/mythbusters-stars-kari-byron-tory-belleci-and-grant-imahara-are-leaving-the-show

The Discovery series is undergoing a cast shakeup for the new season

**ImTellinTim** · 08-22-2014, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by LowerWolf

Kent State put out a release. Without interviewing anybody, ESPN could have used some of that information to humanize the kid instead of using him as a lead-in to Braxton Miller. And if ESPN wanted to do some work, I'm sure his coach, and at least some of his teammates, would have welcomed the opportunity to talk about him.

It wasn't too hard for Cleveland.com:

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/coll...layer_fou.html

I would expect a local media outlet to have more in-depth coverage on a story like this.

Though, I do see some of the points being brought up. I guess I just have a lower standard or don't notice the fact that the story was used as a lead-in.

**LowerWolf** · 08-22-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by ImTellinTim

I would expect a local media outlet to have more in-depth coverage on a story like this.

Though, I do see some of the points being brought up. I guess I just have a lower standard or don't notice the fact that the story was used as a lead-in.

Agreed. I don't expect them to go in-depth. I was just pointing out that it was possible to get reaction without prying.

If they had put the Bitsko news on directly before a commercial break and added the reaction from either the AD or coach, it would have been fine, IMHO.

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