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  • woz411
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    • Mar 2009
    • 513

    #1

    California to be split into SIX states?

    Could “Silicon Valley” become its own U.S. state?
    That’s what a ballot measure, approved this week for signature gathering, is seeking to do. That, and carve out five other regions of California into their own independent U.S. states — with their own laws, politicians and capitols.

    That’s not the only hurdle. Not only would California voters have to approve the initiative, so would Congress.The idea was pitched by venture capitalist Tim Draper, who is now expected to throw his money toward collecting the 807,615 signatures required to put the plan before voters. He has until July 18.
    Then there’s the messy task of splitting up California’s regional assets and liabilities between the new states (think water, bridges, sports teams) as well as setting up brand new governments (new laws, electoral systems, etc.).
    But Draper, who spoke to ABC News on Wednesday, claimed that the benefits of smaller government and a less unwieldy California would be worth the hassle.
    “California, as it is, is ungovernable,” he said. “It is more and more difficult for Sacramento to keep up with the social issues from the various regions of California. With six Californias, people will be closer to their state governments, and states can get a refresh.”
    Under Draper’s plan, San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose would be part of the state of Silicon Valley, which would extend to Santa Cruz and Monterey counties. It would be the wealthiest, and likely most politically liberal, of the new states.
    San Diego and Orange County, meanwhile, would comprise South California. Los Angeles and Santa Barbara would make up West California. Fresno and the San Joaquin Valley would be Central California. Marin, Sonoma and the greater Sacramento area would make up North California. And a bunch of rural counties in far northern California would make up Jefferson.
    Secretary of State Debra Bowen, who approved the measure for circulation, wrote: “If the federal government approves the proposed creation of six new states, all tax collections and spending by the existing State of California would end … Decisions by appointed commissioners and elected leaders would determine how taxes, public spending, and other public policies would change for the new states and their local governments.


  • woz411
    Pro
    • Mar 2009
    • 513

    #2
    Re: California to be split into SIX states?

    if this were to happen the war over the water supply would be deadly

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    • Knight165
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      • Feb 2003
      • 24964

      #3
      Re: California to be split into SIX states?

      Let them eat avocados !!!

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      • kehlis
        Moderator
        • Jul 2008
        • 27738

        #4
        Re: California to be split into SIX states?

        Please let one of the states be named Bay Area.

        Pleaseeeeee.

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        • dickey1331
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          • Sep 2009
          • 14285

          #5
          Re: California to be split into SIX states?

          Well if anything this would make the electoral college interesting.
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          • TCM
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            • Jun 2011
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            #6
            Re: California to be split into SIX states?

            Oh yeah, "Chico, Jefferson" has an awesome ring to it
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            • Mabster
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              • Mar 2009
              • 7659

              #7
              Re: California to be split into SIX states?

              Originally posted by woz411
              if this were to happen the war over the water supply would be deadly
              Not deadly, lucrative.
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              • bkrich83
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                • Jul 2002
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                #8
                Re: California to be split into SIX states?

                Good. Good riddance to the others.

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                • 23
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                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #9
                  Re: California to be split into SIX states?

                  Im sorry, but this is an ignorant idea and im pretty sure it came from up north since that seems to be where all of the controversy always comes from.

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                  • p_rushing
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 14514

                    #10
                    Re: California to be split into SIX states?

                    This has been gaining speed recently. They finally have backing, but its really only to get it on the ballot. I don't think that it will matter as congress won't allow it. If it did happen, you would have a lot of changes in other states. You would end up with conservative/liberal splits and we would finally see which one is better.

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                    • NDAlum
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                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11453

                      #11
                      Re: California to be split into SIX states?

                      Yea it won't happen. In my city we have part of it that wants to break off and form their own city. Who knows? It might be the future...


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                      • Marino
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                        • Jan 2008
                        • 18113

                        #12
                        Re: California to be split into SIX states?

                        Originally posted by NDAlum
                        Yea it won't happen. In my city we have part of it that wants to break off and form their own city. Who knows? It might be the future...


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                        I want that to happen in Charlotte. Break off, call it Ballantyne, call it a day.


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                        • TheMatrix31
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 52931

                          #13
                          Re: California to be split into SIX states?

                          lol, California

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                          • Blzer
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                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42551

                            #14
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                            This is a stupid idea.


                            If this happens, I'm segregating into my own nation.


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                            • cavsfan2
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                              • Aug 2010
                              • 3902

                              #15
                              Re: California to be split into SIX states?

                              Originally posted by dickey1331
                              Well if anything this would make the electoral college interesting.
                              Not only this, but it would also add 10 senators.

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