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  • Chaos81
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    • Mar 2004
    • 17150

    #61
    Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

    Originally posted by Shaver
    when a front page article is written.... a comment is made.... why is a person being given a "penalty" to their forum account when they are only doing what they have been encouraged to do - read the front page and comment?
    I actually think that's part of the problem here.

    Those front pages articles get posted in the forums like they are forum threads, and when I just glance over things, it doesn't always click in my head that I'm reading a front page comment section.

    Now I don't know if that's just my forum skin or what, but outside of the "vote" part of it, there is no difference between a regular thread, and a front page comment thread, and that's something that needs to change in my mind. I've always found it weird, but hadn't seen it brought up, so I thought it was just me.

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #62
      Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

      Originally posted by Scottdau
      I came to this site because I did a search for SCEA MLB sliders in 2003 and the results were Pared sliders.
      I'm truly sorry about that, guys.
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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52828

        #63
        Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

        Originally posted by Pared
        I'm truly sorry about that, guys.
        I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

        I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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        • SageInfinite
          Stop The GOAT Talk
          • Jul 2002
          • 11896

          #64
          Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

          Originally posted by Pared
          I'm truly sorry about that, guys.
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          • Scottdau
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 32580

            #65
            Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

            Originally posted by Pared
            I'm truly sorry about that, guys.
            That is the price you pay when you become a slider guru!

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            • Scottdau
              Banned
              • Feb 2003
              • 32580

              #66
              Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

              Originally posted by countryboy
              I love that Avatar. I can see it is not easy!

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52828

                #67
                Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

                Originally posted by Scottdau
                I love that Avatar. I can see it is not easy!
                thanks
                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                • ezekiel55
                  Th*s F*c* C*sh*s Ch*cks
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 2156

                  #68
                  Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

                  Everything that can be said has already been said...still weird to see Steve's forum gettin this much traffic.

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                  • NC State-31 UNC-27
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1525

                    #69
                    Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

                    Mods obviously have a hard job, especially at this time of year.

                    However, I think the biggest thing to take out of this is that moderators should err on the side of being lenient.

                    It is obviously pretty subjective about what should receive an infraction and what shouldn't. Maybe a mod should check with someone else before handing one out? And really, how hard is it to PM someone or post in a thread "Hey guys, keep those comments to a minimum, that won't be tolerated" before just cracking the whip in the heat of the moment?

                    In the end, this forum is for the posters, right? If it wasn't for the posters, there would be no forum.

                    Which is why I am glad that this type of discussion has FINALLY been allowed. There have been way too many threads to count in the past that have questioned a moderators decision that have given little to no explanation and then locked immediately, not allowing further discussion.

                    Communication between mods and posters has to improve, and this is a good step.

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                    • pfunk880
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 4452

                      #70
                      Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

                      Originally posted by NC State-31 UNC-27
                      Mods obviously have a hard job, especially at this time of year.

                      However, I think the biggest thing to take out of this is that moderators should err on the side of being lenient.

                      It is obviously pretty subjective about what should receive an infraction and what shouldn't. Maybe a mod should check with someone else before handing one out? And really, how hard is it to PM someone or post in a thread "Hey guys, keep those comments to a minimum, that won't be tolerated" before just cracking the whip in the heat of the moment?

                      In the end, this forum is for the posters, right? If it wasn't for the posters, there would be no forum.

                      Which is why I am glad that this type of discussion has FINALLY been allowed. There have been way too many threads to count in the past that have questioned a moderators decision that have given little to no explanation and then locked immediately, not allowing further discussion.

                      Communication between mods and posters has to improve, and this is a good step.
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                      • ColumbusKilled
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 431

                        #71
                        Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

                        Originally posted by fishepa
                        There are plenty of people criticizing EA now and rightfully so, because there a definitely some problems with NCAA. The problem is when you have 20 threads all bitching about the same problem, then yes, we are going to lock some of them up. I don't understand the problem here.
                        The problem is thus:

                        A)Operationsports.com presents itself as a journalism site, that is no longer the case.

                        B)Operationsports.com claims that it has no affiliation with EA Sports, despite the fact that one of the owners of the site is a former employee of EA Sports.

                        C)Post merger with MaddenMania.com, a site which is DEDICATED to the EA Sports breadwinner, the journalistic quality of the site has dropped precipitously, the point of it no longer having journalistic quality and more reflecting an EA sports developers blog.

                        D)While negative threads related to EA sports are locked, positive threads related to EA sports games are never locked.

                        E)Topics are locked, and negative comments are destroyed - likely at the behest of EA Sports/their developers.

                        F)Operationsports.com posts puff pieces about how people are overreacting to the game on the front page of the site. Meanwhile, objective journalists (That is to say those who do NOT rely on publishers to provide them with early copies of the game) are telling the world that this game has SERIOUS problems. It is broken, and it is broken badly. Features which are listed ON THE BOX, do not work. Meanwhile, Operationsports.com, its writers and its moderators are telling its users "Do not be alarmed. Those are just nay sayers. War is peace. George Bush has been a fantastic president. We're not in a recession". It's like you guys cloned Goebbels and made him the moderator.

                        Conclusion)Reading some of the posts from mods is MIND boggling. Either this is a developers forum sponsored by EA and what the users have to say is irrelevant, and will be deleted when it strays from the company line - or this is a forum which welcomes free discussion, even when its poorly phrased.

                        I think it's SO telling that the owners of this site have COMPLETELY stayed away from this hot potato. It's SO disappointing though.
                        Last edited by ColumbusKilled; 07-25-2008, 02:01 PM.

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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #72
                          Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

                          Originally posted by ColumbusKilled
                          D)While negative threads related to EA sports are locked, positive threads related to EA sports games are never locked.

                          F)Operationsports.com posts puff pieces about how people are overreacting to the game on the front page of the site. Meanwhile, objective journalists (That is to say those who do NOT rely on publishers to provide them with early copies of the game) are telling the world that this game has SERIOUS problems. It is broken, and it is broken badly. Features which are listed ON THE BOX, do not work. Meanwhile, Operationsports.com, its writers and its moderators are telling its users "Do not be alarmed. Those are just nay sayers. War is peace. George Bush has been a fantastic president. We're not in a recession". It's like you guys cloned Goebbels made him the moderator.
                          You're off-base here.

                          A negative thread (typically) gets locked because people can do nothing other than be rude and do anything but parlay their point across in a respectful manner. When people start posting "EA Sucks" a thread is going to get closed. Same thing happens in the 2k forum. That's not to say some threads are locked due to a "quick-trigger" but you're making it seem like that's always the case, when it isn't.

                          As for your "objective journalists" not relying on scoring early copies from publishers? You couldn't be more wrong. You'd be surprised how many do, despite the fact they will point out the negatives so harshly. Why? Because if these same individuals post glowing reviews over a game, they expect the community to follow based on their words.

                          I understand you're upset over your comments being addressed but attempting to "call out" this site when you're wrong on some points isn't the way to go about handling things.
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                          • ColumbusKilled
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 431

                            #73
                            Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

                            Do you feel that I am off-base, or out of line?

                            Because I KNOW I am not off-base. If I had any power I could get to the bottom of this.

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #74
                              Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

                              A little bit of both. But for the points I specifically quoted you are certainly off-base.
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                              • McLite
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 2113

                                #75
                                Re: Infraction for criticizing an ARTICLE!?

                                Originally posted by Pared
                                A little bit of both. But for the points I specifically quoted you are certainly off-base.
                                Totally off base. The reason negative threads/posts are locked are because for some reason posters don't know how to criticize without acting completely out of line, they don't back up their statements, and they love to create their own new impression threads over and over.

                                This is the last time I'm going to say it because I'm sick of arguing with the self proclaimed informed who have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. Nobody tells me what to lock, including the main man Steve. Nobody tells me who to give an infraction too...that's based off TOS. As I said before if we locked every negative thread there would be no threads left in the NCAA forum.

                                I'll be the first to tell you that this game is a mess compared to what could have been. I posted clearly in the other forum that the Summer Storm article was completely wrong...but I gave reasons and was professional about it. Do I enjoy the game...yes. I don't play online, I don't use online rosters, I play with mudtigers sliders on AA and generally have a good time. Do I think this game could have been better...very much so. I think it's wrong that a billion dollar gaming company users it's buyers as beta testers.
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