Re: Cop Threads

[Scottdau]

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Snitches get stitches!

From my old hood it was Snitches get put in ditches. But I was from Richmond California. "We go hard out here" Though I never understood that and still get into it with my students about that thinking.

[Speedy]

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I have been pulled over four times and still don't have a single traffic ticket.

I'm nice, show accountability, respectful, etc. and still get the ticket. What else are you doing?

[Cebby]

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Banning cop threads is like banning Auburn/Alabama, Kobe/Laker, or MLB salary cap threads.

Both sides are irreconcilably irrational.

To one side, the police can do no wrong and to the other side doing anything more than saying "please" is brutality.

Well, the thing of it is that people expect law enforcement officers to do their job which is to protect and serve. By them doing their job (protecting and serving) they are not making any news. That's like a headline saying "Salesman makes a sale" or something to that effect. However, when a law enforcement officer doesn't do their job or messes up on the job then it becomes news.

Exactly

With athletes, nobody makes a thread saying "Peyton Manning earns salary for 8th straight year" while "Jamarcus Russell refuses to negotiate salary" is front page news. When was the last time you saw "professor educates students in sound economic theory" compared to the "professor has *insert bias*"? Hell, the Neighborhood forum has a "Don't ever order anything from BestBuy.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!" thread, but not a single "I've completed 63 successful transactions through Amazon, NewEgg, EBgames, or Nike.com" thread (Oh the outrage)! This is true for every single profession in existence.

Do your job and nobody cares. Do something stupid and everyone cares, especially when you're dealing with life or death situations like the police.

OSU has the best idea. "Pigs" should be a warning as should "animals" for the otherside (as well as the "ilk" for each term). Both give an obvious bias that nothing but trouble is eminent.

[ZB9]

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dont know or agree with any "snitches get stiches" BS, but why would anyone actually talk to a cop? Talking to a cop can very rarely benefit you

only reason I would ever talk to a police officer is to help someone else...otherwise, good luck. I dang sure wouldnt ever invite a cop into my house. I dont care if someone has a shotty pulled on me. Ill be better off handling that **** on my own (not that a cop would ever appear on the scene until after the fact)

[buttsakk]

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dont know or agree with any "snitches get stiches" BS, but why would anyone actually talk to a cop? Talking to a cop can very rarely benefit you

only reason I would ever talk to a police officer is to help someone else...otherwise, good luck. I dang sure wouldnt ever invite a cop into my house. I dont care if someone has a shotty pulled on me. Ill be better off handling that **** on my own (not that a cop would ever appear on the scene until after the fact)

Ok, I do see why Mod's & others want these threads to go away...

I would still like these threads to be open topic, but with generalized remarks like this I can understand if they do go away.

[jetercanoturn2]

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I'm kind of a mixed bag when it comes to cops. My dad is retired from the FBI and my brother is in the NYPD. They have great importance in what they do, and my utmost respect. My beef is with the small town cops, So many of these pricks are just *******s. Their not there for your safety, they just want to get their quota in and show their authority. I agree Cops get a bad rep, but some deserve it. I have had some bad experiences with small town prick cops. For ex... I was pulled over in some little unknown town outside Shreveport, Louisiana one night because apparently I circled the gas station in a suspicious manner and didn't have my lights on leaving the gas station. See gas stations are lit up and I could see without my lights on *******es. So anyway I was ok with them pulling me over.

So then on their speakerphone they tell me to step out of the vehicle and they do the whole dumb check to see if I'm high or intoxicated. Then they cuff me for no damn reason and say i have the right to remain silent and all that other bull. And ask me if they can search my car, so I'm like yea sure you ain't gonna find nothing but beef jerky and condoms in there fool. So they find nothing of course. they search hard for weapons and weed, look over my system. So they uncuff me cuz the idiots find nothing, and there wasn't anything, and still give me a ticket for 250 dollars for a lights violation. Pardon my French but a big **** you goes out to those cops. Rant over....

Oh and I want to mention the fact they pulled me over was because I was young and had an out of state license plate I imagine, So they wasted an hour of my night for nothing. and cuffed me like I was some convict for everyone to see. A truly horrible night.

[DickDalewood]

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Lol and then ZB9 comes in and shows us all why people want these threads banned. Seriously dude.

I have a better idea: leave the threads, ban the ones who ruin them.
Just a thought...

[stewaat]

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Lol and then ZB9 comes in and shows us all why people want these threads banned. Seriously dude.

I have a better idea: leave the threads, ban the ones who ruin them.
Just a thought...

ZB9 was fine until he said if someone has a shotty on him he wants to handle it himself. C'mon man, seriously? You know we can't let you do that. If we did, we'd be written up for cowardness. It's our job to protect you.

Oh and where I work we do not have a quota.

And appearing after the fact...

How do you want us to magically know at your house at a specific time you're going to have a shotgun pulled on you? Our job is rather reactionary as there are thousands of places to be and crimes happen at a handful of them every day. Think of it from a rational standpoint. It's not our choice to show up after the fact, it's the reality of that's what going to happen more often than not.

[PVarck31]

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There was a pretty crazy cop story in Cleveland yesterday. 2 Bounty hunters were after a guy but he holed up in a house, they called the police for backup and they stormed the house. A rookie cop was hit over the head by a 2x4 and stabbed in the leg. Cops then shot and killed the suspect.

[Pokes]

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I think when it comes down to cop threads it really depends on the situation and how the officer(s) react to it. We've had examples of LEOs doing the right thing (Ft. Hood) to the wrong (Cop pulling over ambulance with patient in the back to the officer arresting the Fire Captain at an emergency scene).

[mmorg]

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ZB9 was fine until he said if someone has a shotty on him he wants to handle it himself. C'mon man, seriously? You know we can't let you do that. If we did, we'd be written up for cowardness. It's our job to protect you.

Oh and where I work we do not have a quota.

And appearing after the fact...

How do you want us to magically know at your house at a specific time you're going to have a shotgun pulled on you? Our job is rather reactionary as there are thousands of places to be and crimes happen at a handful of them every day. Think of it from a rational standpoint. It's not our choice to show up after the fact, it's the reality of that's what going to happen more often than not.

His main point was that it's not even worth talking to cops most of the time because they are going to try and find something to cite you for and hopefully arrest you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH9k8L3oDa4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

[ZB9]

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My point is that it's a bad idea imo to talk to cops or let cops in your house (unless it is necessary to help someone else)...the rest of my BS was hyperbole and I apologize for offending anyone

I do not "dislike" cops. I am not one of those people. Let me just say that i respect police officers and the obviously difficult and obviously important job that they have. People need to know that most officers are good people who are in it for the right reasons. The bad ones are in the minority. Although it's impossible to tell which are the good ones and which are the bad ones so I choose not to overly trust any cop that I meet.

Personally, I think cops in this country should be paid much more than they are overall. With higher pay would probably come the ability to have higher accountability. It's seemingly become a money making racket these days for the city/county/state, but the cops themselves are not paid nearly enough these days for the responsibility that they have. Im not saying they are paid peanuts, just not enough. Police are extremely important to our society (which is an understatement), and they should be paid as such.

[Jukeman]

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His main point was that it's not even worth talking to cops most of the time because they are going to try and find something to cite you for and hopefully arrest you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH9k8L3oDa4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

LoL that reminded me of a couple years ago when a cop pulled me over(brand new car, I was 20 with 2 girls in the car with me) one of the girls stared at the cop when we were passing his parked car, she said look at his hat(obvisously the cop couldnt hear her)

He then turned on his lights and immediatly stops me at the next block(obvisously he was already looking at us)

pulls me over, I give him everything he needs...Despite everything being in my name and up to date, he had me pulled over for an hour and left me with a seat belt and a wrong lane ticket(I was in the bus/trolly lane about to make a left turn, which is what everyone does including the many cars in front of me and even seen cops do it themselves without having lights on) which I refused to sign....

I love cops, some of my friends are cops, my uncle and his wife are cops....

Its not the uniform, its some of the people in them who abuse the power of the uniform and badge...

Haha, funny thing is that Ive been followed by cops and pulled over numerous times but ever since I got that fraturnity badge thing on my plates from my uncle, Ive NEVER been pulled over since...In fact I drove more reckless with that badge thing then I did without it, I even drove without insurance for a couple days....

No badge/sticker- pulled over for loud music(factory speakers) on a summer day ON MY BLOCK NOT ON A DOWNTOWN STREET where they have fine signs

With badge/sticker- not pulled over for a rolling stop at a stop sign while driving infront of a cop car....

[ZB9]

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ZB9 was fine until he said if someone has a shotty on him he wants to handle it himself. C'mon man, seriously? You know we can't let you do that. If we did, we'd be written up for cowardness. It's our job to protect you.

Oh and where I work we do not have a quota.

And appearing after the fact...

How do you want us to magically know at your house at a specific time you're going to have a shotgun pulled on you? Our job is rather reactionary as there are thousands of places to be and crimes happen at a handful of them every day. Think of it from a rational standpoint. It's not our choice to show up after the fact, it's the reality of that's what going to happen more often than not.

Im sorry for the over the top hyperbole. I was just trying to use an extreme example to prove my point that I would never willingly let a cop into my house

Ive just never encountered a situation where cops made the situation better. It's usually the other way around. That's only in my experience. A few instances that ive seen really jaded me about police officers I guess, but im not someone who has a record or anything like that.

Overall though, I really respect you guys and the obviously difficult job that you have. I know it's probably even more difficult than what I already think. Having more good cops is very important because there probably isnt a job more important in this country.

[Jackdog]

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So we went from talking about "Cop" threads to bashing cops? That's hard to believe. Closed.