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  • TreyIM2
    MVP
    • Apr 2009
    • 1424

    #166
    Originally posted by grushcow
    If anyone wants a work around for PS4 you can create a japanese PSN account which I just did (confirmed on twitter) and type in "create PSN account walkthrough" on youtube and it'll be the first one, mine's DL'ing now.

    Update: Works for me, love it so far aside from all the Japanese text haha.
    Dang-nabbit. I had re-setup my Japanese account on my PS4 a while back but didn't even think about going on it when not seeing the demo in the US store. I have 4 different accounts I created early in my PS3 days and used to go thru each store on days the stores updated with new content, religiously, but I'm not as hardcore of a gamer as I used to be. Oh, well. I'm sure the demo will be in the US store sometime today and I'll check it out when I get home from work.
    Just cuz you pour syrup on ish....

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    • GlennonTheGr8
      Rookie
      • Jul 2012
      • 44

      #167
      This makes me laugh... If you enjoy this game then great but don't try and tell me that this is the only thing EA do well. This isn't even remotely representing footie and it hasn't done since 09. The presentation is top notch, graphically beautiful but when it comes to gameplay, it's just horrible. If you're casuals (I'm guessing a lot of you are) then you're forgiven. It's like, I'm British and first got into madden back in 07 and to me and lots of other Brit kids, madden was absolutely awesome... To guys in the US, it was terrible and has been for the past few years. To us, it didn't matter... Who cared if Mark Sanchez was playing like Peyton Manning, who cared if Shonne Greene was evading like Barry Sanders... The more I fell in love with NFL the more I realised maddens flaws and then appreciated what 2k did with APF and 2k5... I'm guessing that if Americans really get into 'soccer' and understand each players tendencies and how teams actually set up then you'll realise how flawed this game is...

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      • drunkenferret
        MVP
        • Jul 2004
        • 929

        #168
        Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3 - Soon For PS4

        So...I've played ten games on WC. I've played all my games with Chelsea and so far my record is 4-3-3. I'm liking it a lot. I'm not going to rehash what others have said about fouls, etc. The gameplay feels much better, and so far I'm only seeing a couple places where I think I might want to change sliders up, but I need to see how the final version plays.

        As I mentioned in my slider thread, the cpu is averaging over 90% passing against me, and this is not realistic at all. I'm averaging 84%. Their passing is too good, as it doesn't matter if I play Boca or Barca. This could also be a marking issue, but as I said the final version could be much different.

        All that being said, and while not perfect, it does seem that certain players play more like their real world selves. Eden Hazard in one on ones is outstanding in his movement, and I've drawn numerous fouls for free kicks with him. Big players play like big players now, as do little players.
        XBOX ONE: FIFA 15, SOUTHAMPTON CM:
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        • GlennonTheGr8
          Rookie
          • Jul 2012
          • 44

          #169
          I mean, player intelligence and 'all new next gen goalkeepers' ah right....

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_vMXNXUuVw

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          • Ermolli
            MVP
            • Jul 2009
            • 3315

            #170
            Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3 - Soon For PS4

            Demo now up for PS4 in the European store store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-gb/search/q=fifa%2015

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            • Yeats
              MVP
              • Mar 2012
              • 1581

              #171
              Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3 - Soon For PS4

              Originally posted by GlennonTheGr8
              This makes me laugh... If you enjoy this game then great but don't try and tell me that this is the only thing EA do well. This isn't even remotely representing footie... The presentation is top notch, graphically beautiful but when it comes to gameplay, it's just horrible.
              EA does all it games well in that they all have great graphics and presentation along with fluid controls. But after a few hours with the PC demo, it's clear the CPU gameplay hasn't changed any, same as FIFA 14, FIFA 13 and FIFA 12. I'm guessing there are still only 28 slots for editing CPU tactics as well. Nice casual game, and in some ways it almost plays as well as my modded FIFA 13 PC plays, lol. So I guess from that perspective EA is moving in the right direction, slowly.

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              • BL8001
                MVP
                • Jul 2010
                • 1884

                #172
                Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3 - Soon For PS4

                This game is great except for one giant flaw, and I hope it's just because it's a demo.

                The defending is atrocious. Your defenders over run the ball, constantly take horrific angles, they ole', they ignore the ball, ignore the threat, etc.

                Defending cannot be like this in the full game. I thought last year was a bit like herding cats but this takes the cake.

                I learned quickly that RB is nerfed and A contain is weak. If you watch the sport you see that defending isn't about stepping in to a tackle and winning the ball. Defending is about contained retreating and compressing until the other team turns the ball over via an errant pass or an unwise 50/50 pass.

                It's basically just like the NFL bend don't break, where it's harder to score once you get in the redzone.

                Imagine in madden if your CB ran out of bounds while covering a route, or just ran the wrong way once the ball was passed towards him. People would be having conniptions.

                A quick vid of one of the more ridiculous moments. Beyond the "how do you do
                Sir" defending why exactly does the attacker turn and sprint towards his own goal after the collision deep in the box? The threat is still on and the ball is loose. Best plan isn't to sprint the wrong direction.

                resident curmudgeon

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                • Hutton
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 832

                  #173
                  Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3 - Soon For PS4

                  After another handful of matches last night I can safely say that human defenders are absolutely shambolic. EA simply took all the brainpower from your human AI teammates in defense, it's borderline pathetic. The defensive contain command is for total crap, doesn't work at all.

                  And keepers.....wow. Gerrard scored on a free kick where Joe Hart moved towards the near post shot, but abruptly decided to stand and watch the ball bounce into the net instead of diving. I believe the announcer said he was "bamboozled" lol.



                  EA's got a lot of work to do for the final version if this is going to approach the gameplay in 14. At this point I think it's taken a step backwards. Yes, the CPU can attack better, but only because the ability to defend has been handicapped. The RB 2nd defender defends like he's in zombie mode.
                  Last edited by Hutton; 09-10-2014, 07:43 AM.

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                  • IowaAJ
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 433

                    #174
                    Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3 - Soon For PS4

                    I was really impressed especially when the computer dribbled the ball to the corner to try and waist the clock instead of attacking. Also on of their goals he headed it perfect the camera made me think he missed but right in the top corner my Goalie just watched it fly over his head. I like what I see so far.

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                    • BL8001
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1884

                      #175
                      Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3 - Soon For PS4

                      Another short video example.

                      This is out near midfield. No real threat, but that doesn't mean you do this.

                      From what I can tell EA has increased the momentum decay length post animation. So an interaction occurs on the pitch, but instead of your player quickly getting himself together and responding to the CPU's move, they just get caught in the momentum drift and flow for almost 2 more seconds. You can see in the vid where the player defending "hitches" where he should then make a counter move to the CPU, but then carries on with the false momentum to give the CPU gobs of space.

                      resident curmudgeon

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                      • Yeats
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 1581

                        #176
                        Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3 - Soon For PS4

                        Originally posted by BL8001
                        Another short video example.

                        This is out near midfield. No real threat, but that doesn't mean you do this.

                        From what I can tell EA has increased the momentum decay length post animation. So an interaction occurs on the pitch, but instead of your player quickly getting himself together and responding to the CPU's move, they just get caught in the momentum drift and flow for almost 2 more seconds. You can see in the vid where the player defending "hitches" where he should then make a counter move to the CPU, but then carries on with the false momentum to give the CPU gobs of space.

                        http://youtu.be/VywqXIanNK0
                        You really should have your own blog, you have so much insight into what it is that makes this game both good and awful. So is that rating-related? Do players with higher defensive or reaction ratings take few over-run steps, allowing them to get back into position quicker? That's what I would test.

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                        • DBMcGee3
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1166

                          #177
                          Originally posted by GlennonTheGr8
                          This makes me laugh... If you enjoy this game then great but don't try and tell me that this is the only thing EA do well. This isn't even remotely representing footie and it hasn't done since 09. The presentation is top notch, graphically beautiful but when it comes to gameplay, it's just horrible. If you're casuals (I'm guessing a lot of you are) then you're forgiven. It's like, I'm British and first got into madden back in 07 and to me and lots of other Brit kids, madden was absolutely awesome... To guys in the US, it was terrible and has been for the past few years. To us, it didn't matter... Who cared if Mark Sanchez was playing like Peyton Manning, who cared if Shonne Greene was evading like Barry Sanders... The more I fell in love with NFL the more I realised maddens flaws and then appreciated what 2k did with APF and 2k5... I'm guessing that if Americans really get into 'soccer' and understand each players tendencies and how teams actually set up then you'll realise how flawed this game is...
                          Great post man. As an American, I still enjoy FIFA, but having gotten more familiar with international soccer over the past few years, it's clear that PES is far closer to a sim experience. For me, at the end of the day FIFA just always seems so scripted. Far too easy to score headers, and far too many goals scored in the 45th and 90th minutes. If I had a nickel for every time in FIFA 14 that either myself or my opponent scored a header while being closely guarded, I could pick up this year's game for free. I've seen Messi score headers over guys like Kompany.........c'mon. There's also very little variety in play styles for the various teams, whereas in PES every team and every game feels different, in my opinion.

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                          • bad_philanthropy
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 12167

                            #178
                            Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3 - Soon For PS4

                            Originally posted by BL8001
                            Another short video example.

                            This is out near midfield. No real threat, but that doesn't mean you do this.

                            From what I can tell EA has increased the momentum decay length post animation. So an interaction occurs on the pitch, but instead of your player quickly getting himself together and responding to the CPU's move, they just get caught in the momentum drift and flow for almost 2 more seconds. You can see in the vid where the player defending "hitches" where he should then make a counter move to the CPU, but then carries on with the false momentum to give the CPU gobs of space.

                            http://youtu.be/VywqXIanNK0
                            First video is a great example of a horrible angle taken by the defender, but who was controlling the defender in the second video? It was an aggressive angle for sure, but not entirely incorrect per se (given the scenario). Looks like he overran the man, which is a risk when you take an aggressive angle to make a play on the ball.

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                            • Hutton
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 832

                              #179
                              Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3 - Soon For PS4

                              Originally posted by BL8001
                              Another short video example.

                              This is out near midfield. No real threat, but that doesn't mean you do this.

                              From what I can tell EA has increased the momentum decay length post animation. So an interaction occurs on the pitch, but instead of your player quickly getting himself together and responding to the CPU's move, they just get caught in the momentum drift and flow for almost 2 more seconds. You can see in the vid where the player defending "hitches" where he should then make a counter move to the CPU, but then carries on with the false momentum to give the CPU gobs of space.

                              http://youtu.be/VywqXIanNK0
                              Wow yeah, that defender overruns the ball and appears to be "stuck" in a non-reactive mode for a bit too long.

                              This is one of the major problems I've been having with defending, the CPU seems to know that if you over pursue by even just a smidgen they will have ample time to either cut the ball back or do that ultra annoying "loop around" move and expose the space available. This happens far to regularly.

                              I would be totally fine with this if it happened to a notably poor defensive player (i.e. a attacking wide MF like Hazard for example), but I see the exact same behavior with anyone & everyone. The best tackler in the game would fall victim to this at the same rate as a player with 20 marking/tackling. I wish it was more tied to player ratings, that way you might have a reason to sub on a defensive MF to close out a match.

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                              • KG
                                Welcome Back
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 17583

                                #180
                                Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3 - Soon For PS4

                                Originally posted by BL8001
                                This game is great except for one giant flaw, and I hope it's just because it's a demo.

                                The defending is atrocious. Your defenders over run the ball, constantly take horrific angles, they ole', they ignore the ball, ignore the threat, etc.

                                Defending cannot be like this in the full game. I thought last year was a bit like herding cats but this takes the cake.

                                I learned quickly that RB is nerfed and A contain is weak. If you watch the sport you see that defending isn't about stepping in to a tackle and winning the ball. Defending is about contained retreating and compressing until the other team turns the ball over via an errant pass or an unwise 50/50 pass.

                                It's basically just like the NFL bend don't break, where it's harder to score once you get in the redzone.

                                Imagine in madden if your CB ran out of bounds while covering a route, or just ran the wrong way once the ball was passed towards him. People would be having conniptions.

                                A quick vid of one of the more ridiculous moments. Beyond the "how do you do
                                Sir" defending why exactly does the attacker turn and sprint towards his own goal after the collision deep in the box? The threat is still on and the ball is loose. Best plan isn't to sprint the wrong direction.

                                http://youtu.be/yjD0MYkFu0w
                                What level was that on? I noticed some atrocious defending/keeping when I first booted the game but then saw it was on Semi-Pro. I agree with your overall impressions regarding defending although I'd like to fool around with the new tactics to see if that helps at all. Every year EA gives us this short demo after touting AI improvements so it's hard to really tell at times because the game is so short. I have seen the time-wasting but also the dreaded "passing-the-ball around the box" syndrome that used to plague some of the older games in this series.
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