FIFA release date is getting frustrating

[redsox4evur]

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I think I know the REAL reason why it doesn't come around now or the end of the Month. The Champions League. Right now on Fox Sports 1 is the Playoff Round 1 game between Man U and Club Brugge. In MM when you start there is no playoff round in the "Champions Cup". There are no matches until around October when the Group Stages start.

[Zac]

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I think I know the REAL reason why it doesn't come around now or the end of the Month. The Champions League. Right now on Fox Sports 1 is the Playoff Round 1 game between Man U and Club Brugge. In MM when you start there is no playoff round in the "Champions Cup". There are no matches until around October when the Group Stages start.

The good game though is going to be Lazio vs Bayer Leverkusen. Its why I love Fox Soccer 2 go. I get to watch every game in the Champions League on demand or live. Same with Bundesliga and Scottish Premiership. And all CONCACAF games too. Its pretty nice for $20/m.

[redsox4evur]

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The good game though is going to be Lazio vs Bayer Leverkusen. Its why I love Fox Soccer 2 go. I get to watch every game in the Champions League on demand or live. Same with Bundesliga and Scottish Premiership. And all CONCACAF games too. Its pretty nice for $20/m.

I am just happy that I actually get to watch some Bundesliga this year. I will take what I am getting on FS1 and FS2. If I miss games I miss games. Pretty the only teams I am going to watch are Bayern and Dortmund. #Bandwagonfollower.

[Zac]

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I am just happy that I actually get to watch some Bundesliga this year. I will take what I am getting on FS1 and FS2. If I miss games I miss games. Pretty the only teams I am going to watch are Bayern and Dortmund. #Bandwagonfollower.

Ya its nice that Fox sports is picking up some leagues and showing them on TV. I just wish they had the EPL for the US and not NBC.

EDIT: And I take that back. I did not expect Brugge to have this start.
EDIT2: Well, they started good, but didn't do anything really. Its turning into what I expected now.

[speedtrucker]

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The Premier league is by far the biggest in the world. It makes the most money and attracts the biggest audiences. English football is also much more attacking than it European counterparts. I'm not saying it's technically the best but it's by far the most entertaining league in the world. In the football world no one really cares about Mls, the Belgian league etc. the big two are premier league the. The Italians. Spanish are third and maybe the Germans are forth.
Our premier league has started already and I've wondered why the game does t come out in the the first week of August. I suspect it's because high summer is a bad time for the game industry. Empirically, the top games never come out until at least September. We don't even get games coming out in December anymore. September to Novemebr are the major months for sales.
EA know FIFA will sell well with a September release. It always has. Didn't it have an October release a few years ago?
Ea are a business and will release the game when it can sell the most. Authenticity is secondary.

you lost credibility with those 2 parts...

the EPL is he most valuable and the most easily connected to with US audiences because of the lack of a language barrier.

it is not the most attacking football, they try by bringing in all the other European players but they are not. the stats don't justify that claim. The Bundesliga has continually been the highest scoring league of the big 4 in Europe with England and Spain being near neck and neck, Serie A falls back behind everyone.

the EPL teams are more about streaking up the wings and meeting in the middle than most other leagues (outside of Arsenal and Chelsea), while most La Liga teams are about possession and technical skill (outside of Real Madrid who are a counter attack/fly up the wing team), and the Bundesliga teams are just flat out german precision and engeneering through and through(although Bayern often goes into the Pep - tiki taka mode). In European play, this bears out even more as the non EPL teams (mainly Spanish) teams dominate the scoring opportunities and dominate the tournaments in general.

as to releasing the game, FIFA isn't an american title. its a global title, they don't have to follow the Madden blue print because they can release when they feel is the best time for rosters and gameplay tuning and still sell 100million globally. I do agree though that it is a tough wait for the game...

[wsatterwhite]

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I think I know the REAL reason why it doesn't come around now or the end of the Month. The Champions League. Right now on Fox Sports 1 is the Playoff Round 1 game between Man U and Club Brugge. In MM when you start there is no playoff round in the "Champions Cup". There are no matches until around October when the Group Stages start.

I don't think EA actually accounts for the playoff rounds- last year Napoli, Besikas(sp) and I think one other club were knocked out in the playoffs but still appeared in the draw when you set up a Champions Cup with "real" participants while at least one of the playoff round winners appeared in the Europa League draw. In fact, if Club Brugge were to somehow come back and knock out Man United, i'm fairly certain the game would have United in the Champion Cup draw with Brugge in Europa

[woody2goody]

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you lost credibility with those 2 parts...

the EPL is he most valuable and the most easily connected to with US audiences because of the lack of a language barrier.

it is not the most attacking football, they try by bringing in all the other European players but they are not. the stats don't justify that claim. The Bundesliga has continually been the highest scoring league of the big 4 in Europe with England and Spain being near neck and neck, Serie A falls back behind everyone.

the EPL teams are more about streaking up the wings and meeting in the middle than most other leagues (outside of Arsenal and Chelsea), while most La Liga teams are about possession and technical skill (outside of Real Madrid who are a counter attack/fly up the wing team), and the Bundesliga teams are just flat out german precision and engeneering through and through(although Bayern often goes into the Pep - tiki taka mode). In European play, this bears out even more as the non EPL teams (mainly Spanish) teams dominate the scoring opportunities and dominate the tournaments in general.

as to releasing the game, FIFA isn't an american title. its a global title, they don't have to follow the Madden blue print because they can release when they feel is the best time for rosters and gameplay tuning and still sell 100million globally. I do agree though that it is a tough wait for the game...

I definitely wouldn't say that Spanish teams 'dominate European football'. It seems like that because Real Madrid and Barcelona seem to be elevated by the media somewhat, but since 2005 when Liverpool won the Champions League, Arsenal were in a final, Man United won it once and reached two other finals, Liverpool reached a second final while Chelsea lost one and won one. The Premier League has had a very good record in this competition.

Real Madrid have only won it once since 2002, and yes, Barcelona have won it 3 times or so but in total England have had more finalists than Spain or Germany or Italy over the last 10 years.

Teams like Stoke, West Ham, Everton, Tottenham, Southampton and Palace would beat their continental equivalents I'm sure. The strength in depth of the Premier League is second to none. In fact the quality in our Championship is also very high, and would give lower La Liga or Serie A teams some trouble.

On topic though, I guess they release it later because they have to wait for all the new kits. Man United for instance only launched theirs on the 1st of this month. Also they've only had 3 months or so to work on the Premier League's promoted teams' stadia.

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[Simaofan-20]

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You can't compare the NHL to FIFA because the NHL doesn't have transfer windows but more so a trade deadline which is usually February or early March . It's all to get the teams as up to date as possible when the game is released and its probably for offline players more so who don't have their consoles hooked up via wifi. It's a good option to have for those gamers to have the game release a little later on in September

[Simaofan-20]

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I definitely wouldn't say that Spanish teams 'dominate European football'. It seems like that because Real Madrid and Barcelona seem to be elevated by the media somewhat, but since 2005 when Liverpool won the Champions League, Arsenal were in a final, Man United won it once and reached two other finals, Liverpool reached a second final while Chelsea lost one and won one. The Premier League has had a very good record in this competition.

Real Madrid have only won it once since 2002, and yes, Barcelona have won it 3 times or so but in total England have had more finalists than Spain or Germany or Italy over the last 10 years.

Teams like Stoke, West Ham, Everton, Tottenham, Southampton and Palace would beat their continental equivalents I'm sure. The strength in depth of the Premier League is second to none. In fact the quality in our Championship is also very high, and would give lower La Liga or Serie A teams some trouble.

On topic though, I guess they release it later because they have to wait for all the new kits. Man United for instance only launched theirs on the 1st of this month. Also they've only had 3 months or so to work on the Premier League's promoted teams' stadia.

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2010 EL - Atletico 2 Fulham 1
2011 EL - Porto 1 Braga 0
2012 EL - Atletico 3 - Bilbao 0
2013 EL - Benfica 1 - Chelsea 2
2014 EL - Benfica 0 Sevilla 0(PK)
2015 EL - Sevilla 3 Dnipro 2

2010 CL - Inter 2 Bayern 0
2011 CL - Barca 3 Man U 1
2012 CL - Bayern 1 - Chelsea 1(PK)
2013 CL - Bayern 2 - Dortmund 1
2014 CL - Real 4 - Atletico 1
2015 CL - Barca 3 - Juve 1

La Liga

EL Finalists - 5
EL Winners - 4
CL Finalists - 4
CL Winners - 3

EPL

EL Finalists - 2
EL Winners - 1
CL Finalists - 2
CL Winners - 1

[speedtrucker]

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2010 EL - Atletico 2 Fulham 1

2011 EL - Porto 1 Braga 0

2012 EL - Atletico 3 - Bilbao 0

2013 EL - Benfica 1 - Chelsea 2

2014 EL - Benfica 0 Sevilla 0(PK)

2015 EL - Sevilla 3 Dnipro 2



2010 CL - Inter 2 Bayern 0

2011 CL - Barca 3 Man U 1

2012 CL - Bayern 1 - Chelsea 1(PK)

2013 CL - Bayern 2 - Dortmund 1

2014 CL - Real 4 - Atletico 1

2015 CL - Barca 3 - Juve 1



La Liga



EL Finalists - 5

EL Winners - 4

CL Finalists - 4

CL Winners - 3



EPL



EL Finalists - 2

EL Winners - 1

CL Finalists - 2

CL Winners - 1

Came here to post this same set of stats. Backing it out to semi finals participants it gets even more skewed, la liga has put a bunch of semi finalists out there over the last 5+ years.

There is a reason La liga has separated themselves by a large margin in the Eufa coefficient and EPL has dropped to 3rd and risking dropping to 4th.

[guayo10]

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Since the 2007-2008 Champions League that featured 2 English teams this is how they've fared v La Liga

Champions League 08-09
Group D
Atleti 1-1 Liverpool
Liverpool 1-1 Atleti

Group F
Villarreal 1-1 Manchester United
Manchester United 1-1 Villarreal

Round of 16
Real Madrid 0-1 Liverpool
Liverpool 4-0 Real Madrid (5-0 aggregate)

QF
Villarreal 1-1 Arsenal
Arsenal 3-0 Villarreal (4-1 aggregate)

SF
Barcelona 0-0 Chelsea
Chelsea 1-1 Barcelona (1-1 aggregate)

Final
Barcelona 2-0 Manchester United

Champions League 09-10
Group D
Chelsea 4-0 Atleti
Atleti 2-2 Chelsea

QF
Arsenal 2-2 Barcelona
Barcelona 4-1 Arsenal (6-3 aggregate)

Champions League 10-11
Group C
Manchester United 1-1 Valencia
Valencia 0-1 Manchester United

Round of 16
Arsenal 2-1 Barcelona
Barcelona 3-1 Arsenal (4-3 aggregate)

QF
Real Madrid 4-0 Tottenham
Tottenham 0-1 Real Madrid (0-5 aggregate)

Final
Barcelona 3-1 Manchester United

Champions League 11-12
Group A
Manchester City 2-1 Villarreal
Villarreal 0-3 Manchester City

SF
Chelsea 1-0 Barcelona
Barcelona 2-2 Chelsea (2-3 aggregate)

Champions League 12-13
Group D
Manchester City 1-1 Real Madrid
Real Madrid 3-2 Manchester City

Round of 16
Real Madrid 1-1 Manchester United
Manchester United 1-2 Real Madrid (2-3 aggregate)

Champions League 13-14
Group A
Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad
Real Sociedad 0-0 Manchester United

Round of 16
Manchester City 0-2 Barcelona
Barcelona 2-1 Manchester City (4-1 aggregate)

SF
Atleti 0-0 Chelsea
Chelsea 1-3 Atleti (1-3 aggregate)

Champions League 14-15
Group B
Real Madrid 1-0 Liverpool
Liverpool 0-3 Real Madrid

Round of 16
Manchester City 1-2 Barcelona
Barcelona 1-0 Manchester City (3-1 aggregate)

Champions League group stage
La Liga 3
BPL 5
Draws 8

Knockout stage
La Liga 8
BPL 3

Finals
La Liga 2 (2009, 2011)
BPL 0

In short, most group stage wins came against Villarreal, Atleti (pre-simenone), Real Sociedad

Uefa Cup 08-09
Group A
Racing Santander 3-1 Manchester City

Europa League 09-10
SF
Atleti 1-0 Liverpool
Liverpool 2-1 Atleti (2-2 aggregate)

Europa League 10-11
No games

Europa League 11-12
Round of 32
Stoke City 0-1 Valencia
Valencia 1-0 Stoke City (2-0 aggregate)

Round of 16
Manchester United 2-3 Athletic Bilbao
Athletic Bilbao 2-1 Manchester United (5-3 aggregate)

Europa League 12-13
No games

Europa League 13-14
Group A
Swansea City 0-1 Valencia
Valencia 0-3 Swansea City

Europa League 14-15
No games

Europa League group stage
La Liga 2
BPL 1
Draws 0

Knockout stage
La Liga 3
BPL 0

Finals
La Liga 0
BPL 0



So after the Manchester Utd v Chelsea final it seems that La Liga has dominated the BPL top to bottom. I remember watching the Bilbao game at Old Trafford, it was nuts to me how bad United were in that game. I'd argue since 2000 or so La Liga >>> BPL in terms of talent. If we're talking about viewership in the US BPL > La Liga. Even though La Liga is not that bad as games go from 9-1 PST/ Noon-4 EST. I may get up to see Barça play at 3 am PST, but I'm not getting up at 4:45 for a Crystal palace v West Brom game.

[Zac]

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Does anyone even air La Liga games in the US?

[redsox4evur]

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Does anyone even air La Liga games in the US?

beIN does...

[guayo10]

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BeIn FTW. La Liga + Serie A + Ligue 1 + Capital One Cup + Championship + All Conmebol WCQ

Pretty much worth the extra fee you may have to pay if your normal package doesn't get it.

[Murph]

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EPL is definitely the European league that gets the most exposure here in the USA. It's a great league and I enjoy watching it every week.

With that said, for me personally, there's currently nothing in the EPL that matches the excitement of watching the front 3 of Barcelona. JMO