Training in career mode help!

[jrose57]

hi guys just want to know what u guys think:

1. Is it cheating to use the training with your players and then develop them this way? I need to know if CPU does the same with their players I mean if they do then I think is ok for me to use the training and improve my players rating but if CPU doesnt is there a way to turn it off? Or would sim through it means computer automatically help me train the players or actually skip the training so no players will be trained?

2. for those that use this feature can u tell me if its easy medium or difficult tk actually get the players to get better?

Thank you!

[Necrosis]

Re: Training in career mode help!

Why would it be cheating when it is a mechanic in the game?

Personally I just give them hard drills and sim them all. Don't have time to play 5 skill games all the time and the simulation does a pretty good job of it.

[aarontab]

Re: Training in career mode help!

I do the same thing with the training, only I focus it on one player to make the grow very quickly. If you're worried about the realism of that, think of it as taking a player under your wing and personally mentoring them into stardom. If you're into narratives, definitely a way to take a young promising prospect into your starting XI sooner rather than later.


Another way to look at it is that it finally gives us the ability to shore up some of the shortcomings we find in certain players and especially youth players you find in the in-game youth scouting system. Guy has great stats but low stamina? You're no longer at the mercy of the game's progression and can actually make those players useful. Similarly, you can take a midfielder (for instance) who has (also for instance) great passing naturally and boost their shooting to convert them from a natural holding midfielder to an attacking one based on your team's needs.


IMO, very realistic, very needed.

[jrose57]

Re: Training in career mode help!

Thank you for the responses guys, I hope more people can come in and give some thoughts on training in career mode this season. However, I would really want to ask if the CPU does the same thing with their players, like do they train them and make them improve?

[DirectFX]

Re: Training in career mode help!

Good thread I'm also interested in how training goes especially if you get the mismatched youth players that had mixed up stats for their position

[aarontab]

Re: Training in career mode help!

Thank you for the responses guys, I hope more people can come in and give some thoughts on training in career mode this season. However, I would really want to ask if the CPU does the same thing with their players, like do they train them and make them improve?

My guess would be no, but CPU progression has always been different than your own. I wouldn't use that as a barometer for fairness personally.




You can take a youth player and assign them to all five trainings (all at the "hard" level) and sim to get like +10 growth to overall in a season. High potential/low beginning overall players work best. I've raised Jordan Rossiter to a 70 OVR by November already.

[Zac]

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Training seems to be a mixed bag for me. For example. I found two central mid players in youth. Both are 15. Both had potential to be 78-85. Both came in at 52. They both had very similar stats across the board. Maybe off of each other by 2-3 points max in any stat. I trained them both in the same drills each week. One player has taken off and become a beast by February. The other player hasn't hardly done anything. The one guy is now a 65, the other is a 56. The one guy wont get better than a C in simmed drills so he wont grow all that fast. He actually averages a D I think. The other guy gets A's every time.

I'm not complaining. I like this. Its realistic. Not every player will be a top flight player. So its nice to see that some kids who have high potential might not actually end up being great players. They wont live up to their potential. Or it will just take them much longer to reach it. This also makes doing youth difficult for me right now. Because I have a hard time deciding what kids to accept now. In 15 I just looked at potential and speed ratings. Now that doesn't seem to matter, players grow differently.

[aarontab]

Re: Training in career mode help!

Training seems to be a mixed bag for me. For example. I found two central mid players in youth. Both are 15. Both had potential to be 78-85. Both came in at 52. They both had very similar stats across the board. Maybe off of each other by 2-3 points max in any stat. I trained them both in the same drills each week. One player has taken off and become a beast by February. The other player hasn't hardly done anything. The one guy is now a 65, the other is a 56. The one guy wont get better than a C in simmed drills so he wont grow all that fast. He actually averages a D I think. The other guy gets A's every time.

I'm not complaining. I like this. Its realistic. Not every player will be a top flight player. So its nice to see that some kids who have high potential might not actually end up being great players. They wont live up to their potential. Or it will just take them much longer to reach it. This also makes doing youth difficult for me right now. Because I have a hard time deciding what kids to accept now. In 15 I just looked at potential and speed ratings. Now that doesn't seem to matter, players grow differently.

I assign one player to five diff (hard level) drills every week and sim, usually he gets Cs and Ds and I've raised him +9 overall by November (first season). As and Bs are overrated, you'll still get fantastic growth even with that in my experience.

[Zac]

Re: Training in career mode help!

I assign one player to five diff (hard level) drills every week and sim, usually he gets Cs and Ds and I've raised him +9 overall by November (first season). As and Bs are overrated, you'll still get fantastic growth even with that in my experience.

Wait, you can do the same player on all 5 drills at once?

[aarontab]

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Wait, you can do the same player on all 5 drills at once?

You got it. Just made your day right? Lol

[Zac]

Re: Training in career mode help!

You got it. Just made your day right? Lol

Yes, that changes everything.

[aarontab]

Re: Training in career mode help!

Yes, that changes everything.

Go make a youth player a beast now. It's honestly my favorite new addition.




A little protip for everybody: if you do that to boost a player, stop doing it around the time they hit 80 overall and start on the next prospect. After that, it will increase them at such a slow rate it wont be worth it anymore. An 80 overall is first team for pretty much any team, at that point I'm sure they'll grow fast enough from playing them.

[timmuh1515]

Re: Training in career mode help!

Training is OP and with scouts being cheaper and top end talent easy to find...you can definitely create a monster.

The cool thing is that it is offline and we have control of however we want to handle it.

I have started to wonder how training and potential interact. If you train a player who has reached his potential...does he stop progressing?

[aarontab]

Re: Training in career mode help!

Training is OP and with scouts being cheaper and top end talent easy to find...you can definitely create a monster.

The cool thing is that it is offline and we have control of however we want to handle it.

I have started to wonder how training and potential interact. If you train a player who has reached his potential...does he stop progressing?

No, he will progress at the normal TRAINING rate. I emphasize training because, if you are spamming training on a high potential player, he is also going to be progressing naturally concurrent to your training. A low rated, high potential player can easily grow +15 in one season.


As you say, it's nice because you can choose how you want to implement this. If it seems like that's unrealistic or overpowered, you can choose to use it differently or not at all. I'm always a big fan of developing a young, low-rated player into a centerpiece of a team so it honestly feels like this addition was tailor-made for me.

[tgiarchangel]

Re: Training in career mode help!

So how does training apply in be a pro mode? Where accomplishments are the normal way to develop your player.