SADA is the solution for Career Mode!

[Benja190782]

We all know the feeling when playing teams that are significantly worse than your self (like using Man City against the worst second division team you can find) and it just doesn't feel like you over power them like you should.

Or how you one weekend can beat Chelsea 3-1 with Bournemouth and the next weekend loose 4-0 against Aston Villa - it's been like this for many, many years in FIFA. We know the feeling, right?

This can not be fixed by sliders in my opinion.
But we can do something else...

The solution is SADA! (Semi-Automatic Difficulty Adjustment)

SADA is based on every teams "Star Level" so it's much more noticeable when you play against Manchester United for example. You REALLY fear them!

The original SADA is build up like this, but you could adjust it to your liking.

5 Star teams: Legendary!
4,5 + 4 Star teams: World Class!
3,5 + 3 Star teams: Professional!
3 + 2,5 Star teams: Semi-Pro!
All under 2,5 Stars: Semi-Pro!

The variety of games is so much fun!

My setup looks like this:
5 Star teams: Legendary!
4,5 Star teams: World Class!
4 + 3,5 + 3 Star teams: Professional!
All under 3 Stars: Professional!

Please don't try to Google the SADA model - I made it up my self!
But it works really well - just remember to set the difficulty at Semi-Pro when you start a new Career Mode, because you can't go the other way (like from Legendary to Professional)

[Benja190782]

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If DrGunjah plays on legendary this would not solve his problem with big teams being easier too beat.

Hmm.. Are you saying that DrGunjah is that good he can play Full manual on Legendary and still win with his eyes closed against Arsenal, City and Chelsea?

If so - I believe the problem could be if you handicap the CPU with sliders. Because SADA won't work if you already made the 50/49 Accel. in your slider settings.

Either that or DrGunjah is simply a FIFA god!

[chrisMogzy]

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This sounds like potentially a good idea (although I enjoy personally just sticking with Legendary), however, the only problem with your suggestion is the fact that you don't know the star rating of teams in career mode. Yes you can look at something like sofifa.com, but as the seasons progress, the star rating will potentially change due to player growth, transfers and retirements. (Or is there a way to see the ratings of teams within career mode that I have missed?)

[Chrisx]

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I can see this working only with 2 difficulty levels depending on the user level. World Class & Legendary / Pro & WC.

If you increase the range then you have many matches that are a guaranteed win. Why play them? I can't imagine myself playing on semi-pro. And another problem is that you have to use default sliders or tweak them every other match since most of them make the cpu a click easier on WC/Leg or harder on Pro.

I would like to propose a different Idea: Dynamic Sliders! Key sliders like shot & pass error/acceleration/marking and maybe a couple more adjusted to slightly different values depending on team star level. Of course that would require a clever mod.

So moving on, the ultimate solution would be for EA to finally do something about team tactics and team individuality. Someone make a petition! I'm tired of playing an almost brilliant game of football and then realising that it comes in only one flavour.

[ROABS]

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doesnt this happen in real life though? using liverpool as an example they just tied sion 1-1 which is surely a team they should have dominated ? if you tied sion 1-1 in fifa people would say the game is rigged.

i understand gamewise why you are doing this but results are not guaranteed in real life even if you have a super power team.

[kurosaba]

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doesnt this happen in real life though? using liverpool as an example they just tied sion 1-1 which is surely a team they should have dominated ? if you tied sion 1-1 in fifa people would say the game is rigged.

i understand gamewise why you are doing this but results are not guaranteed in real life even if you have a super power team.

That's actually a good point. So what would be the remedy for this? Just not do SADA? Or choose a two-tier SADA? 4.5-5 Stars are Legendary, everything else is WC?

I do hate it when secondary league unknown teams can pass like Barca or Bayern.

[Zac]

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You have one fatal flaw in this system. In MM you don't see teams star ratings. So you can't adjust this to each new year. Because teams improve and teams get worse. So you could make a cheat sheet for the first season, but how you to know what star rating each team is the following seasons.

[Don Jon]

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doesnt this happen in real life though? using liverpool as an example they just tied sion 1-1 which is surely a team they should have dominated ? if you tied sion 1-1 in fifa people would say the game is rigged.

i understand gamewise why you are doing this but results are not guaranteed in real life even if you have a super power team.

I agree with you. But the thing about FIFA is that sion will hold 50 possession against you if you play on legendary. But in real life possession was 65-35. Liverpool dominated shots 19-10, they just couldn't finish.

If I draw in a game like that, I wouldn't be mad, but having a team like sion pass like bayern against me is one of the most frustrating things in FIFA.

[Gnemi]

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This approach is quite similar to what myself and others have done in the past. When it comes to Career Mode sliders specifically, the problem as pointed out above is that opponent quality is entirely too fluid to adapt a system based on the star ratings.

I'd recommend choosing your default preference, whether it's WC or Legendary, then using the Home and Away system as the season progresses. WC for home fixtures, Legendary for away. I have trusted WC to be perfectly fine for *all* cup activities and champions league fixtures because EA tune the difficulty for those matches anyway.

I'd never use lower than WC under any circumstances. You can fall asleep at the wheel and blank your opponents on Pro.

[xicpanad]

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Thing os this game seems to be constantly out of balance, like it has a mind of his own. Yesterday I had the best session ever, on legendary, beating Chile 0-3, with 60% possession, then beated colombia 1-2 in a tight match and finally win with slovenia also tight match, but always dominating the match, I even got surprised with how cool I could play on default sliders.

Today, another tournament, and I strugle to win Venezuela who finished with 94% passing. I lost after the group stage to Germany but every single game felt too hard, way harder then yesterday. Makes me wonder what's happening that changed so much my experience from one day to another.

[Benja190782]

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Well, maybe you are all right - some great feedback actually.
Maybe the right way to do it is through sliders and then simply adjust pass error and shot error for the CPU? (Like Chrisx said)

I just like the fear you feel against 5 Star teams on Legendary difficulty, and then maybe every other team should be played on World Class? (Like Chrisx said)

The good part is we don't have to look for star ratings all the time, because we all know who the top teams are, (Legendary) and then West Brom wouldn't pass around like FC Barcelona, right?

Could we make a solution with sliders and difficulty combined?

Any suggestions?

[JHedges2]

Re: SADA is the solution for Career Mode!

This approach is quite similar to what myself and others have done in the past. When it comes to Career Mode sliders specifically, the problem as pointed out above is that opponent quality is entirely too fluid to adapt a system based on the star ratings.

I'd recommend choosing your default preference, whether it's WC or Legendary, then using the Home and Away system as the season progresses. WC for home fixtures, Legendary for away. I have trusted WC to be perfectly fine for *all* cup activities and champions league fixtures because EA tune the difficulty for those matches anyway.

I'd never use lower than WC under any circumstances. You can fall asleep at the wheel and blank your opponents on Pro.

Using this method, do you still have adjusted sliders--or do you just play default WC/LEG based on match location?

If your sliders are adjusted, is all you change difficulty level, or do you have 2 completely different sets? I'd hate to have to fool with this before/after each match...

[Benja190782]

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doesnt this happen in real life though? using liverpool as an example they just tied sion 1-1 which is surely a team they should have dominated ? if you tied sion 1-1 in fifa people would say the game is rigged.

i understand gamewise why you are doing this but results are not guaranteed in real life even if you have a super power team.

Good feedback, ROABS!
Yes this happen in real life - just not the way you see it in FIFA I think.

In FIFA you can play with Chelsea against Norwich and feel you can't get through their defense - you can't put them under pressure because Norwich can pass around like Bayern, and you just can't do anything about it.

That's one part I don't see while playing with SADA.

Another is the fear factor against top teams I was talking about.
But I really, really hope we could find a solution together here. And you guys have already reported some good feedback.

A solution that could be easily adjusted like shot error and pass error. And a solution that could be used with the OS Sliders.

Something like this:

SADA version 1.0

(SADA Sheet 1)
Top teams
Difficulty: Legendary
Pass Error +0 (50) default
Shot Error +0 (50) default

(SADA Sheet 2)
Top middle teams (couldn't find the right english word, LOL)
Difficulty: Legendary
Pass Error +4 (54)
Shot Error +2 (52)

(SADA Sheet 3)
Middle teams
Difficulty: World Class
Pass Error +6 (56)
Shot Error +3 (53)

Etc.

If you have such a SADA model on paper it's quick to adjust before a game.

[kurosaba]

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Is there a way to see the CURRENT MM rosters for other teams in your league?

If so, you can add the realism of doing the research for opponent formation and roster, and even do something like a Futhead or Futwiz analysis of the formation and star rating to see what you want to set SADA to.

[Benja190782]

Re: SADA is the solution for Career Mode!

Is there a way to see the CURRENT MM rosters for other teams in your league?

If so, you can add the realism of doing the research for opponent formation and roster, and even do something like a Futhead or Futwiz analysis of the formation and star rating to see what you want to set SADA to.

You mean like search the opponent in the "Transfer Market" for player ratings?
I could be a solution - I was thinking something about calculating the CURRENT team rating like this:

GK
Best defender
Best midtfielder
Best Attacker

Then you could calculate them and get a overall team rating fast and simple.

Let's pretend it ends up like this: overall 326.

SADA sheet 1: 350-400
SADA sheet 2: 300-350
SADA sheet 3: 250-300
Etc.

So the result is:

(SADA Sheet 2)
Difficulty: Legendary
Pass Error +4
Shot Error +2

Or something like this - any suggestions, folks?