Loose ball issues

[JayD]

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I don't even know how many times I've yelled "stick your ****ing foot out!"

[aarontab]

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To add a separate note piggybacking on the original topic - this year's screwjobs of choice have been modified to include an altered "player switch" and "pass aim" system of some kind. I can't put my finger on it, but I frequently switch to the wrong guy (even when switching with the right stick) and my passes go to the wrong person far, far too often. And this has been noted by many people on this board so I know something has changed.


I have played FIFA for close to 13 years - it's doubtful I just got rusty with my pass-aiming abilities.


The other one, which is a bit more understandable, is the "trapped in the tackle animation" move your guys will do when you hit the stand tackle button at the wrong time. They crush you with that. I like the reward/punishment aspect, but it's clumsy and sometimes annoying - nothing worse than trying to tug a guy's shirt and instead the game doesn't register that you're jockeying and your player looks like he's doing the ****ing stanky leg...

[bvb24]

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My line: "Get the f***ing ball! It's right there!" Anyway, does anyone else feel like its more prevalent on WC than Pro? Or it might just be that I can overcome it easier on pro.

[flo182]

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I can't put my finger on it, but I frequently switch to the wrong guy (even when switching with the right stick) and my passes go to the wrong person far, far too often.

Also noticed that.

Switching was better over the last years as well as player recognition of loose balls.

Really hope this is sth. EA can fix quickly and not sth. they intentionally put in the game to slow down the game or sth. like that :/

[mb90]

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Havent noticed it.

[Resurrection403]

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i dont know how people arent noticing this issue. its causing goals and is actually one of the worst glitches in AI ive ever seen in fifa.

[xicpanad]

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That's the main problem with dificulty this year. Pro level, your players are smart, and Cpu AI is damn dumb. World Class is inverted, Cpu is smart, your players are dumb. They could have done a midle term, but they just inverted things. It's just not fair, because with things evened out this could be a perfect dificulty, but when you find yourself giving away stupid goals because of AI stupidity instead of our own distraction is just unfair and frustrating. Solution? I just restart Fifa and the game seems to run ok for a couple matches again.



Just on a side note, I have a saved tournament I just made with the purpose of testing dificulty levels when controlling a top team, specifically Barça. When I go to final rounds on World Class and always loose against some asian team rated 1.5 stars I know somethin's wrong with this game, specially when the asians have 95% pass accuracy... 😠

[DirectFX]

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Yeah this is driving me nuts in the opponents box loose ball all the AI players sit there on my team or even run away like they are scared to put in an easy tap in. I have actually noticed it's worse in 16 for me.

Only thing that is different for me from 15 is that I noticed is for some reason when editing/creating a player in the mental section it says Tactical Awareness but it seems to only effect a players Interceptions rating not anything with offensive ratings? Idk if it's anything but first saw it thought was for offense and defense ratings like how good player can follow both your offensive and defensive tactics but I was wrong and don't know why they don't just call it interceptions in edit/create mode?

Another little problem I have is it seems to me the Cursor over the player you are controlling seems not to stand out this year and is smaller. There are times on defense when I get switched and no idea who I am controlling unless I look away to radar or pause game. I tried different zooms but seems cursor doesn't stand out and it's first year I ever had this problem. The offense I fixed in settings having name show over player but doesn't do it on defense...

Hope ea fix the CPU loose ball ******ation. Seems like you should take ea devs to any kids soccer game and see the kids all swarm the ball like crazy that's how CPU has to be get after the ball ..

[aarontab]

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I don't want to be a downer, but every time I see people talk about "fixing" this issue I can't help but wonder why people think it's not intentionally in the game. You notice that it makes beating the CPU more difficult, but you don't believe that it's the way the game simulates difficulty?


It's not a glitch. It's a design flaw. EA is fully aware that's not how it works in real life, and I think that's an important thing to understand.


Go ahead and count how many times you're 100% SURE you would score if your player would have stepped up and made the play instead of backing away or ignoring the ball - for the sake of argument assume they would have all actually been goals. Tally those situations up over the course of a game and a season and you'll have your answer on why it's in the game - there'd be too many goals.

[xicpanad]

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I already said this and say it again. Using assisted or manual controls changes something. I can't stop noticing my players are more responsive and aware on assisted pass, and I also feel diferences while defending, though not as much. But there's certainly a diference. Playing full assisted feels lame though, not challenging as semi or manual.

[Resurrection403]

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I don't want to be a downer, but every time I see people talk about "fixing" this issue I can't help but wonder why people think it's not intentionally in the game. You notice that it makes beating the CPU more difficult, but you don't believe that it's the way the game simulates difficulty?


It's not a glitch. It's a design flaw. EA is fully aware that's not how it works in real life, and I think that's an important thing to understand.


Go ahead and count how many times you're 100% SURE you would score if your player would have stepped up and made the play instead of backing away or ignoring the ball - for the sake of argument assume they would have all actually been goals. Tally those situations up over the course of a game and a season and you'll have your answer on why it's in the game - there'd be too many goals.

This is an absurd suggestion. Should be infracted/banned too for accusing EA of something like this imo

[aarontab]

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This is an absurd suggestion. Should be infracted/banned too for accusing EA of something like this imo

How is that absurd? It creates a challenge, it's obvious all the way through. You're absolutely out of line for calling for my banning on suggesting that the game designers are finding alternative ways of making a challenge once they've exhausted the limits of AI.

It wasn't an accusation of anything, if anything, I'm watching people constantly accuse the developers of some imagined incompetence and defending that. The game is given advantages by design, it's measurable.

As far as wanting me banned, what have I done to you? What gives you any kind of right? I suggest you actually offer a rebuttal to what Ive said before you go on the offense in that way.


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[Resurrection403]

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How is that absurd? It creates a challenge, it's obvious all the way through. You're absolutely out of line for calling for my banning on suggesting that the game designers are finding alternative ways of making a challenge once they've exhausted the limits of AI.

It wasn't an accusation of anything, if anything, I'm watching people constantly accuse the developers of some imagined incompetence and defending that. The game is given advantages by design, it's measurable.

People have provided video evidence up the wazoo of this problem, and it's a plain problem that's easily identified in any game you want to play yourself and open your eyes. It's hardly an accusation to say a problem exists.

You're taking the ridiculous position that EA has purposely coded human AI players to ignore loose balls to create difficulty. It's an embarrassing and intellectually bankrupt position to take.

[godquality01]

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People have provided video evidence up the wazoo of this problem, and it's a plain problem that's easily identified in any game you want to play yourself and open your eyes. It's hardly an accusation to say a problem exists.

You're taking the ridiculous position that EA has purposely coded human AI players to ignore loose balls to create difficulty. It's an embarrassing and intellectually bankrupt position to take.

Just because he has a difference stance to you doesn't mean you should called his opinion absurd or for his ban. You should be mindful of the words you use or better still how you bring you point across.

Honestly speaking what he said made me wonder maybe there's a merit in it. But we won't know would we? Unless the developers confirm this.

And whatever evidence you may have to the contrary is also opinion based so can also be classified as absurd.

Just saying learn to accommodate people with a different view to yours.

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[aarontab]

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People have provided video evidence up the wazoo of this problem, and it's a plain problem that's easily identified in any game you want to play yourself and open your eyes. It's hardly an accusation to say a problem exists.

You're taking the ridiculous position that EA has purposely coded human AI players to ignore loose balls to create difficulty. It's an embarrassing and intellectually bankrupt position to take.

On what grounds do you make that accusation on me, first of all?


Secondly, how can you tell the difference in the game between it being intentional or accidental? You're taking the stance that a company has ignored a problem that has existed for years within the game and that other clearly observed "artificial difficulty" issues such as player switching, blocked shots, foul calls, hitting posts, dubious offside calls, random errant passes, randomly overhit/underhit through balls, etc (seriously...I could go on forever) are separate entirely. I'm taking the stance that making your AI teammates less adept creates difficulty and basically negates the advantage you get from having actual strategic reasoning (which is difficult to program into the CPU opponent AI). How is that intellectually bankrupt?


Are you angry about some perceived "moral" implication of that type of programming? They have no obligation to do anything beyond make a challenging game that is as realistic as possible (the challenge is arguably more important - why else buy the game and play year after year?). What is so outlandish about what I've said? They already give CPU players boosts as you go up in difficulty levels, how is lowering the ability of your teammate AI an entirely separate concept in your mind?


If my suggestions are "embarrassing and intellectually bankrupt", then what do you call the type of disconnected thinking that makes you think EA is obligated to make a game (which is meant to be challenging) some perfectly level playing field? If your AI teammates behaved like the CPU behaved, the game would cease to be challenging.


The sad thing is we're saying the same thing only you think it's because EA hasn't been able to fix an issue that has been in FIFA since at least 08. I just think it makes more sense if we believe they don't see it as broken. The "video evidence" shows the same thing I absolutely know happens, but why wouldn't they just fix it? The CPU does it just fine. What other conclusion, given that fact, can you intelligently come to?