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  • Matt10
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    • Apr 2006
    • 16638

    #376
    Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

    Krebs just wanted to give some input on my beloved Fulham.

    Speed is good, but their passing values are much higher as Fulham is known, right now, for one of the slickest passing teams in the Championship. Crossing is actually quite rare unless the outside backs are able to overlap. With the shortness of Aluko, and the one striker of Martin, crossing the ball is always very low. They pass around the box a lot more because Cairney is actually the CAM, and Aluko is out on the RM spot. LM is currently occupied by Piazon, as well.

    There, I can say I've actually contributed to the great cause!
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    • 1860fan
      Pro
      • Dec 2014
      • 696

      #377
      Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

      hallo andanesean habe dir nochma 2 Privat nachrichten gesendet, und ein Viedeo zu erklärung könntes du mir bitte nochmal antworten privat wäre nett

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      • andanesean
        Pro
        • Dec 2016
        • 785

        #378
        Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

        Originally posted by Matt10
        Krebs just wanted to give some input on my beloved Fulham.

        Speed is good, but their passing values are much higher as Fulham is known, right now, for one of the slickest passing teams in the Championship. Crossing is actually quite rare unless the outside backs are able to overlap. With the shortness of Aluko, and the one striker of Martin, crossing the ball is always very low. They pass around the box a lot more because Cairney is actually the CAM, and Aluko is out on the RM spot. LM is currently occupied by Piazon, as well.

        There, I can say I've actually contributed to the great cause!
        Fullham is actually a really good team. I watched them against QPR yesterday they clearly deserved to win but only got 1-1. They play the ball around quickly, and strong in the passing game and counter attack. They had some crossing yesterday where they were dangerous. Good team delicious football. Statistics seen, they are the best team at passing and speed in the Championship. Quite strange they do not lie in the top 6 (yet?).

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        • 1860fan
          Pro
          • Dec 2014
          • 696

          #379
          Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

          könntest du mir nochmal bitte antworten andanesean wegen dem Viedeo wäre nett??

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          • boxers
            Pro
            • Jul 2004
            • 623

            #380
            Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

            I just wanted to say thanks for these tactics and formations. I'm excited in my new career mode and I hope I will be able to post videos in here of how the different teams play.
            FIFA 19 Career Mode with Southampton
            MLB The Show 19 Blue Jays Franchise Mode
            Youtube: NarrowTie

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            • Matt10
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2006
              • 16638

              #381
              Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

              Originally posted by andanesean
              Fullham is actually a really good team. I watched them against QPR yesterday they clearly deserved to win but only got 1-1. They play the ball around quickly, and strong in the passing game and counter attack. They had some crossing yesterday where they were dangerous. Good team delicious football. Statistics seen, they are the best team at passing and speed in the Championship. Quite strange they do not lie in the top 6 (yet?).
              Yes, they've really picked up their passing quality recently. The league is starting to notice. The problem is that defensively they haven't been consistent, and as evident in the QPR match, players will make bonehead decisions at times.

              They have been up on teams that currently are in the Top 5, but their inability to hold on to a lead, or kill teams off, is what's keeping us on the outside looking in.

              The coach recently played around with a 3-4-3 and 3-5-2 formation, and it seemed to actually work well. I was surprised we hadn't done the same yesterday, but we dominated possession with the 4-5-1 again, and if it weren't for a missed PK (again!), we'd have won it at Loftus Road.

              Thankfully we held onto Piazon from Chelsea, till the end of the season. Also Ayite will be back soon, who has been a better striker than Matt Smith, and has found the net for us a couple times already.
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              • andanesean
                Pro
                • Dec 2016
                • 785

                #382
                Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                Originally posted by Matt10
                Yes, they've really picked up their passing quality recently. The league is starting to notice. The problem is that defensively they haven't been consistent, and as evident in the QPR match, players will make bonehead decisions at times.

                They have been up on teams that currently are in the Top 5, but their inability to hold on to a lead, or kill teams off, is what's keeping us on the outside looking in.

                The coach recently played around with a 3-4-3 and 3-5-2 formation, and it seemed to actually work well. I was surprised we hadn't done the same yesterday, but we dominated possession with the 4-5-1 again, and if it weren't for a missed PK (again!), we'd have won it at Loftus Road.

                Thankfully we held onto Piazon from Chelsea, till the end of the season. Also Ayite will be back soon, who has been a better striker than Matt Smith, and has found the net for us a couple times already.
                Yes spot on. Their defense makes catastrophic failure, as the goal that led till 1-0. If they got it sorted they move up. Piazón is one among many very good player as Chelsea through time has loan to Fulham . They do not have the same rivalry as such QPR and Fulham (fans do but not club) , which we saw yesterday it boiled over. Krebstar nailed it with there low aggression / pressure (30) - Thats Fulham problem.

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                • Krebstar
                  is looking at stats.
                  • May 2005
                  • 12904

                  #383
                  Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                  Originally posted by Matt10
                  Krebs just wanted to give some input on my beloved Fulham.

                  Speed is good, but their passing values are much higher as Fulham is known, right now, for one of the slickest passing teams in the Championship. Crossing is actually quite rare unless the outside backs are able to overlap. With the shortness of Aluko, and the one striker of Martin, crossing the ball is always very low. They pass around the box a lot more because Cairney is actually the CAM, and Aluko is out on the RM spot. LM is currently occupied by Piazon, as well.

                  There, I can say I've actually contributed to the great cause!
                  They currently cross as much as anyone else per game from the stats I'm seeing, but I'll trust your eyes far more in terms of how they should be when playing against them.

                  Other than lowering crossing, any other specific values you think need to be adjusted?
                  Last edited by Krebstar; 01-22-2017, 08:06 PM.

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                  • Krebstar
                    is looking at stats.
                    • May 2005
                    • 12904

                    #384
                    Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                    Update: 1.22.17

                    Added two more EFL Championship teams.

                    It's getting there, fellas.

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                    • Matt10
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                      • Apr 2006
                      • 16638

                      #385
                      Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                      Originally posted by Krebstar
                      They currently cross as much as anyone else per game from the stats I'm seeing, but I'll trust your eyes far more in terms of how they should be when playing against them.

                      Other than lowering crossing, any other specific values you think need to be adjusted?
                      Their crossing is primarily like short passes into the box. The exception is when big Matty Smith is swapped in for Martin though, but even then it's not as often - which is why he doesn't exactly fit the mold of what the team's dynamic is.

                      I'm a member of FulhamFCTV where they replay the 90 min matches the next day, and I can't tell you how frustrating it is, to me and their great commentators, when they don't cross the ball in obvious positions. However, I'm always left amazed how Tom Cairney can collect the ball and dance away from tackles, to set up the chances, or find Johanssen. It's really beautiful possession football.
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                      • andanesean
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 785

                        #386
                        Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                        Originally posted by Krebstar
                        They currently cross as much as anyone else per game from the stats I'm seeing, but I'll trust your eyes far more in terms of how they should be when playing against them.

                        Other than lowering crossing, any other specific values you think need to be adjusted?
                        <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--> In fact, they are the team in the championship who do the most crosses statistically!. If you look at onefootball.com they have so far made 441 crosses (most in the Championship) . They have a success rate of crosses 17,91 %,which is only average. But when you see them play they do not seem to use it a lot, rather like Matt says Their crossing is primarily like short passes into the box.
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                        • huskyds
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2016
                          • 39

                          #387
                          Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics &amp; Formations [FIFA 17]

                          Hi! Thank you so much for the work on projec10.
                          Im from Spain. (Sorry for my english). I think that teams like At.Madrid or R.Madrid needs higher values of passing, speed... And At.Bilbao a lot more on Crossing.

                          There are tactics for national teams?

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                          • andanesean
                            Pro
                            • Dec 2016
                            • 785

                            #388
                            Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics &amp; Formations [FIFA 17]

                            Originally posted by huskyds
                            Hi! Thank you so much for the work on projec10.
                            Im from Spain. (Sorry for my english). I think that teams like At.Madrid or R.Madrid needs higher values of passing, speed... And At.Bilbao a lot more on Crossing.

                            There are tactics for national teams?

                            Maybe I misunderstood something, increasing values have the opposite effect, or what?.

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                            • huskyds
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2016
                              • 39

                              #389
                              Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics &amp; Formations [FIFA 17]

                              Originally posted by andanesean
                              Maybe I misunderstood something, increasing values have the opposite effect, or what?.
                              What I want to say is that teams like real madrid and at. madrid play many times with long passes, fast attacks, etc. And for example, At.Bilbao is a very powerful team with crossings and head goals.

                              Higher values on "passing" means faster (or longest).
                              Higher values on Crossing means more number of crosses.

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                              • andanesean
                                Pro
                                • Dec 2016
                                • 785

                                #390
                                Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics &amp; Formations [FIFA 17]

                                Originally posted by huskyds
                                What I want to say is that teams like real madrid and at. madrid play many times with long passes, fast attacks, etc. And for example, At.Bilbao is a very powerful team with crossings and head goals.

                                Higher values on "passing" means faster (or longest).
                                Higher values on Crossing means more number of crosses.
                                I think we must just make sure we do not misunderstand each other ?.
                                Build up play= speed and passing: Lower values means faster game play.
                                Chance creation passing: Lower values means faster game play
                                Crossing= high value many crosses
                                madrid play many times with long passes, fast attacks
                                What you think is that Madrid should have low values on Build up play, and a high number on Chance Creation = passing. Right?.

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