Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

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  • Krebstar
    is looking at stats.
    • May 2005
    • 12904

    #451
    Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

    Originally posted by CujoMatty
    After 5 games im back. Honestly this game kinda blows without these. Every team played exactly the same and not even at all in a good way.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    • Krebstar
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      • May 2005
      • 12904

      #452
      Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

      Update: 2.24.17

      EFL Championship is complete! Finally!

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      • thony007
        Rookie
        • Jul 2014
        • 53

        #453
        Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

        Originally posted by Krebstar
        Update: 2.24.17

        EFL Championship is complete! Finally!
        Thank you so much !!!
        What leagues are next? Any interest in National Squads? probably not. Just wondering.

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        • Krebstar
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          • May 2005
          • 12904

          #454
          Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

          Originally posted by thony007
          What leagues are next? Any interest in National Squads? probably not. Just wondering.
          National squads will be done eventually, but that might be more towards Summer, honestly. The goal for this first year is to get as much in as possible, as next year it'll be about making updates and not recreating everything from scratch.

          Next up will most likely be top teams from Portugal and the Netherlands, and a few weeks into the MLS season I'd like to start getting those in place.

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          • andanesean
            Pro
            • Dec 2016
            • 785

            #455
            Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

            I dare say that EA has done CTT even better since the last update. I sense how much they affect one's CM, also in relation to who you meet. Continue the good work Krebstar, you have created a base for future FIFA CTT

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            • Aaron458f
              MVP
              • Nov 2015
              • 2357

              #456
              Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

              League 1 or 2 could be good if you can get the stats @krebstar and the national squads sound good to


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              • Krebstar
                is looking at stats.
                • May 2005
                • 12904

                #457
                Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                Update: 2.26.17

                Added the top three sides from the Eredivisie.

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                • Krebstar
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                  • May 2005
                  • 12904

                  #458
                  Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                  There are spots on the website for Champions League and Europa League—these are meant for teams who are in those competitions this year (or perhaps regulars in the competition), but who will not have tactics done for their entire league. The following is what teams are planning on being included:

                  Champions League
                  • Basel
                  • Besiktas
                  • Celtic
                  • Rostov
                  • CSKA Moscow
                  • Legia Warsaw
                  • Copenhagen
                  • Brugge


                  Europa League
                  • Anderlecht
                  • Zenit
                  • Genk
                  • Olympiacos
                  • Gent
                  • Krasnodar
                  • Fenerbahce
                  • AZ Alkmaar

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                  • SACanuckinOz
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 13

                    #459
                    Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                    Just a response to someone earlier talking about only programming the current league you play in and using second controller to do for the international matches.

                    I would actually recommend programming any league you might one day want to manage in at the onset. It doesn't actually take that long (probably 1-2 hours at most), but it adds so much to the immersion, and it means that if you get bored of winning one league all the time, you can move to another league, where the teams are already playing much more individually.

                    In terms of overall feedback, I have to say I still find that although teams do play more uniquely, there is still some real lack in getting other teams to take shots at goal. I was playing a Euro League semi-final against PSG last night (CM manager, AC Milan, Legendary, tactics from here, sliders to make opposing team as aggressive as I can). My team managed a 4-0 win away...sigh. They took about one shot at goal.

                    For the return leg I got so frustrated I took the ball to my own penalty box, and stood waiting for Cavani or someone to steal it from me. Do you know what i discovered? Firstly, your player will shield the ball, and retrieve it from an attempted steal .... with the controller on the coffee table! Clearly massive programming to make other team suck, and player be god-like. Secondly, even with no defenders between Cavani (I mean Cavani man!) and the goal, he misses 50% of the time, or gets saved... what a joke. And thirdly, if they score, your chances of scoring an immediate revenge goal is >90%, as suddenly it seems their goalie has gone blind.

                    The imprinted AI in this game is enough to make you scream. Clearly some people must have complained so much at some point that they made a game for you to simulate being a football god, rather than an actual football game

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                    • andanesean
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 785

                      #460
                      Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                      Originally posted by SACanuckinOz
                      Just a response to someone earlier talking about only programming the current league you play in and using second controller to do for the international matches.

                      I would actually recommend programming any league you might one day want to manage in at the onset. It doesn't actually take that long (probably 1-2 hours at most), but it adds so much to the immersion, and it means that if you get bored of winning one league all the time, you can move to another league, where the teams are already playing much more individually.

                      In terms of overall feedback, I have to say I still find that although teams do play more uniquely, there is still some real lack in getting other teams to take shots at goal. I was playing a Euro League semi-final against PSG last night (CM manager, AC Milan, Legendary, tactics from here, sliders to make opposing team as aggressive as I can). My team managed a 4-0 win away...sigh. They took about one shot at goal.

                      For the return leg I got so frustrated I took the ball to my own penalty box, and stood waiting for Cavani or someone to steal it from me. Do you know what i discovered? Firstly, your player will shield the ball, and retrieve it from an attempted steal .... with the controller on the coffee table! Clearly massive programming to make other team suck, and player be god-like. Secondly, even with no defenders between Cavani (I mean Cavani man!) and the goal, he misses 50% of the time, or gets saved... what a joke. And thirdly, if they score, your chances of scoring an immediate revenge goal is >90%, as suddenly it seems their goalie has gone blind.

                      The imprinted AI in this game is enough to make you scream. Clearly some people must have complained so much at some point that they made a game for you to simulate being a football god, rather than an actual football game
                      First of all, I agree with you that it pays to submit all the (programming?) Data as Krebstar have created for you / we can put into CTT in a few hours what the man has spent weeks and months to create respect, excuse back to the track ...
                      No doubt that EA AI frustrate at times. But experience tells me that it's not all black and white. If you step up the midfield with the ball and not move, you will find that it goes 4-5 seconds before AI attack, realistically, no, but is it realistic that I have to stand and stare 4-5 seconds, just as it is realistic to you must stand still in the defense to Cavani can steal the ball ?, no I guess.
                      The game code is what it is and it has been for a long time, but I see hope ahead with the new engine. There is always Slider to make the game more challenging, and yes sometimes behave AI strangely. EA does not listen to complaints, but only to the proposal, and not least what they can earn from, the same as all other companies would do. It is not to pick on you, every man is entitled to his opinions and frustrations, but sometimes I miss a little of reality realism of what we expect and what can EA create ?.

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                      • thony007
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 53

                        #461
                        Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                        Originally posted by andanesean
                        Have changed and modified values for my EFL league 1 & 2 CTT. At the same time the layout was refined.

                        Hey,
                        Do you have BPL or other leagues CTT you can share.?

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                        • andanesean
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2016
                          • 785

                          #462
                          Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                          Originally posted by thony007
                          Hey,
                          Do you have BPL or other leagues CTT you can share.?
                          Yes, but they resemble Krebstars CTT, and out of respect for the man's work I will only upload the leagues he has not made. But I have the French Ligue 2, ready as I can I upload here tomorrow ?. Before starting to ask for others, I have until now not wanted to make CTT for the countries which has only one league in FIFA17 - why?, because I think it's uninteresting if you can not be relegated or promoted , and thus compare CTT league for league, but it may change.
                          Ps. page 54 got LIGA Adelante Spain.pdf (320.5 KB, 99 views)
                          Last edited by andanesean; 03-01-2017, 08:16 PM.

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                          • andanesean
                            Pro
                            • Dec 2016
                            • 785

                            #463
                            Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                            CTT for ligue 2 France.
                            Attached Files

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                            • mbah123
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 19

                              #464
                              Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                              Great work on making these in really brings life into the game and makes FIFA much more enjoyable. Just curious why did you take on such a huge task.


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                              • Krebstar
                                is looking at stats.
                                • May 2005
                                • 12904

                                #465
                                Re: Projec10: Custom AI Tactics & Formations [FIFA 17]

                                Originally posted by mbah123
                                Great work on making these in really brings life into the game and makes FIFA much more enjoyable. Just curious why did you take on such a huge task.


                                Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                                To an extent, I enjoy doing this as much as I enjoy playing the game—I'm odd.

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