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  • MadsTheChamp
    Rookie
    • Nov 2015
    • 10

    #46
    Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

    Originally posted by iaxy
    I remember a time in the not too distant past, when there were two console games of football – one which had all the bells, whistles and licenses but played an arcadish and scripted game and one which had none of the former but captured the dynamics and enthusiasm of football much better and realistically.

    How the tables have turned!

    After playing both PES and FIFA last year, I got very quickly bored with FIFA and mainly relied on PES to get my fix for the rest of the year. FIFA just looks very samey, predictable and unexciting. On the other hand, PES looked sharper, had better ball dynamics, better models, animations and it just had that excitement factor about it.

    Playing the demos this year, I can honestly say the roles have reversed. Whilst PES continues to have the better graphics, player models, lighting and textures, based on the demos, FIFA simply plays a better, more intuitive and more realistic game of football. Where FIFA falls (badly) again is the excitement factor. When you score (or get scored on) in FIFA it just feels lame, it’s an anticlimax. The way the ball flies in the net, the way the net bulges (or not in most cases), it just feels and looks weird. And here is my overall worry with FIFA – for such a resourceful team, EA should really have spent more time and attention in making those presentation aspects better, because the gameplay is really, really good.

    For a start the goals look too small, the ball looks too small, the players still move too robotically and the models, whilst better, are still miles behind PES. A case in point is the player’s faces. This is one aspect which luckily I care less about, but it is simply unforgivable to have player faces in Juve and Man Utd, which have absolutely no resemblance to the real selves (example Higuain, Matic, etc.). The lighting is also questionable – take as an example La Bombonera - the only venue which you can play at day light. Play with Man City for example and you will see that the colours of the shirts are just off – by a long way. The grass – again – why does it look so choppy, with those weird deep shades of green? Shouldn’t it degrade progressively?

    Arguably I am the type of person who gets equal pleasure from the aesthetics of a game as well as the mechanics. FIFA really excels at the latter, but trails PES on the former. In my perfect world, I would have PES visuals / animations and FIFA gameplay / mechanics.

    My summary on FIFA 18 demo is therefore this:

    Positives
    + Realistic feel / control / speed
    + Very good representation of the game of football – from the tight battles in midfield, to the clever runs (both AI teammates and CPU).
    + Fluid and intutive build up
    + A level of unpredictability (this used to be a trademark for PES, but this year the roles are reversed).
    + More “human” CPU with stray passes, backward passes, greater variety, etc.
    + Quick subs
    + Very responsive controls. Playing defense is actually fun (compared to PES, where the controls are very clunky and frustrating).
    + Passing assist on SEMI is actually quite realistic – you really need to pay attention how you pass the ball, especially when the body is not fully aligned with the trajectory of the pass. I really like this. In PES this is botched.

    Negatives
    -Overall visuals – questionable lighting, grass visuals, disproportionate objects (goals and balls are too small), net physics. This lets the game down badly, which is a shame.
    -Player faces – far inferior than PES and frankly inexcusable
    -Player animations – still too robotic
    -Lack of excitement when you score a goal or get scored on – the way ball flies in and interacts with the net – it’s just lame and ultimately an anticlimax.
    Wow. A really good and reflective post.

    But I am quite surprised. Fifa the most realistic? Why?

    That really depends on what you are looking for I think.

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    • SteveFBC
      Rookie
      • Mar 2017
      • 404

      #47
      Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

      My thoughts on the gameplay below, mostly good so far...

      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Xk7rt2BT9_k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

      YouTube Channel: FBC

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      • iaxy
        Rookie
        • Aug 2005
        • 273

        #48
        Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

        Originally posted by MadsTheChamp
        Wow. A really good and reflective post.

        But I am quite surprised. Fifa the most realistic? Why?

        That really depends on what you are looking for I think.
        In my opinion, any game which strives for realism should focus on getting the action right in the middle of the pitch - the midfield. I find PES completely misses the mark there because there is simply too much space (the pitch looks huge) and the action is extremely end to end. Also, PES fails in one more important area - when the CPU is under pressure, it always makes a pinpoint pass to a teammate - regardless if it is near or 30 yards away.

        Based on the demo, FIFA 18 is more unpredictable. The midfield is a true battlefield (as it should be) and if you win this battle, you generate chances. Conversely, if you lose that battle, you are exposed - just like in real life.

        Players are also positioned better on the pitch in FIFA. Both human and CPU team shapes are more realistic than PES.

        Just my personal opinion...

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        • slthree
          MVP
          • Sep 2003
          • 2529

          #49
          Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

          Has anyone seen the CPU shoot from distance? I am really liking the demo but I have not seen a long shot attempt by the CPU yet. That's always been a gripe for me

          Sent from my SM-N910V using Operation Sports mobile app

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          • Introspectah
            Pro
            • Sep 2014
            • 328

            #50
            Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

            Originally posted by iaxy
            I remember a time in the not too distant past, when there were two console games of football – one which had all the bells, whistles and licenses but played an arcadish and scripted game and one which had none of the former but captured the dynamics and enthusiasm of football much better and realistically.

            My summary on FIFA 18 demo is therefore this:

            Positives
            + Realistic feel / control / speed
            + Very good representation of the game of football – from the tight battles in midfield, to the clever runs (both AI teammates and CPU).
            + Fluid and intutive build up
            [...]

            Negatives
            -Overall visuals – questionable lighting, grass visuals, disproportionate objects (goals and balls are too small), net physics. This lets the game down badly, which is a shame.
            [...]
            Well, if this isn't a damn excellent review.

            Reads like something composed by a professional.

            Who are you and where have you been all the time?

            Stuck with PES all the while?

            I'd like to read more of your input in the future.

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            • wordtobigbird
              MVP
              • Sep 2008
              • 4385

              #51
              Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

              Originally posted by Tomba


              And I say this respectfully

              As someone who played a lot of FIFA 17 along with doing constant slider sets I have to say

              Pro evolution soccer is a million times more realistic
              As someone who will never switch to Pro Evo, your opinion is noted and irrelevant to FIFA 18.

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              • wordtobigbird
                MVP
                • Sep 2008
                • 4385

                #52
                Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

                Originally posted by slthree
                Has anyone seen the CPU shoot from distance? I am really liking the demo but I have not seen a long shot attempt by the CPU yet. That's always been a gripe for me

                Sent from my SM-N910V using Operation Sports mobile app
                Only a couple when they are down. Not outside the box though.

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                • slthree
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2529

                  #53
                  Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

                  Originally posted by wordtobigbird
                  Only a couple when they are down. Not outside the box though.
                  That's a shame. I'm liking this demo so much more than I expected that I've surprised myself.

                  Would love to see shots from distance, top of the box.

                  Sent from my SM-N910V using Operation Sports mobile app

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                  • KTBFFH
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 296

                    #54
                    Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

                    Can we please keep the thread on track and stop throwing little jabs at each other?

                    Better locomotion is a plus in the demo as well as revised audio for contact with the ball. I haven't seen a single foul yet, but the fouling has regressed since '15 in my opinion. Can't wait to try the full game with community sliders.

                    I'm also very disappointed to not see face scans or star heads for Bakayoko or Rudiger. Hopefully PC modding will return in full force after recent gains.
                    Last edited by KTBFFH; 09-13-2017, 09:17 AM. Reason: Elaboration.
                    Carefree

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                    • Qb
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 8797

                      #55
                      Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

                      Originally posted by slthree
                      That's a shame. I'm liking this demo so much more than I expected that I've surprised myself.

                      Would love to see shots from distance, top of the box.

                      Sent from my SM-N910V using Operation Sports mobile app
                      I don't know, I watched some guy give up two outside the box goals to the CPU in a few minutes on Twitch last night. So of course he decided long shots are "OP" for the CPU.

                      It could be something that's influenced by how you play defense; ie, staying in position/taking away shooting lanes compared to chasing/lunging/pulling players out of position (like he was) and allowing time/space to shoot.

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                      • slthree
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 2529

                        #56
                        Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

                        Originally posted by Qb
                        I don't know, I watched some guy give up two outside the box goals to the CPU in a few minutes on Twitch last night. So of course he decided long shots are "OP" for the CPU. [emoji14]

                        It could be something that's influenced by how you play defense; ie, staying in position/taking away shooting lanes compared to chasing/lunging/pulling players out of position (like he was) and allowing time/space to shoot.
                        Music to my ears

                        Maybe I haven't played enough yet. Maybe I haven't played a team with a good midfield sniper

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                        • bad_philanthropy
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 12167

                          #57
                          Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

                          I've seen a bunch of long shots from the cpu. I think it just has to do with defending. I think with less ai help in defending people are adjusting and there are more lanes to take the ball into the box.

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                          • jb12780
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 10665

                            #58
                            Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

                            I am very excited to see these mostly positive reviews. Wasn't expecting this.

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                            PSN:jb12780

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                            • PhillyPhanatic14
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 4824

                              #59
                              Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

                              Originally posted by Don Jon
                              Messing around in team tactics and I don't see the new team specific styles they advertised here: http://forums.operationsports.com/fo...am-styles.html.

                              Were they in the beta? And do you guys think that EA could have possibly not added these features at all.
                              Didn't see these in the beta either and haven't seen them in the demo. They weren't even listed in the features screens after each game in the demo.

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                              • PhillyPhanatic14
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 4824

                                #60
                                Re: FIFA 18 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (Xbox One, PS4, PC)

                                Originally posted by slthree
                                Has anyone seen the CPU shoot from distance? I am really liking the demo but I have not seen a long shot attempt by the CPU yet. That's always been a gripe for me

                                Sent from my SM-N910V using Operation Sports mobile app
                                Played Man U vs Chelsea and they scored 2 from outside the box.

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