Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

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  • jrnlgrn
    Pro
    • Oct 2018
    • 3076

    #136
    Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again...

    Originally posted by Rmiok222
    I’ve read through a lot of this thread and never saw it they tracked back this fifa or not


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    I think the general feeling is current gen tracking is better than last gen but not enough to sway anyone if they disliked '21. They still mostly stand around to allow for 1v1 because in EAs words "not scoring isn't fun".

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    • fideco
      Rookie
      • Sep 2015
      • 282

      #137
      Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again...

      Originally posted by Rmiok222
      I’ve read through a lot of this thread and never saw it they tracked back this fifa or not


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      Hello, unfortunately the gameplay of the beta has not given a definitive answer.
      The opinions of users who have played the beta are not all in agreement on this issue.
      This topic lends itself to different interpretations and i hope the matter will be clarified on D1
      I think the tracking back is not aggressive and effective enough: it's a fake tracking back.... (IMHO)
      We have done our best to try to understand.

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      • PhillyPhanatic14
        MVP
        • Jun 2015
        • 4824

        #138
        Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again...

        Originally posted by Rmiok222
        I’ve read through a lot of this thread and never saw it they tracked back this fifa or not


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        They don't. It's the same as last year. Someone posted a dev quote earlier in this thread that the devs have no interest in realistic defensive play from midfielders so this isn't going to get changed. It's a design choice to help fut kiddies score goals cuz they can't if the game plays realistically.

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        • electrickeeper
          Immense Dimension
          • Aug 2006
          • 421

          #139
          Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again...

          Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
          They don't. It's the same as last year. Someone posted a dev quote earlier in this thread that the devs have no interest in realistic defensive play from midfielders so this isn't going to get changed. It's a design choice to help fut kiddies score goals cuz they can't if the game plays realistically.
          I forget where I saw it, it may have been here, but someone described what FIFA has devolved into as merely a fighting game where you kick a ball. Get the right combination of skill moves and exploits and you've got a goal every time.

          Unfortunately they nailed it. Maybe one day it'll be a sport simulation, but I'm not too hopeful.
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          • fideco
            Rookie
            • Sep 2015
            • 282

            #140
            Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again...

            Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
            They don't. It's the same as last year. Someone posted a dev quote earlier in this thread that the devs have no interest in realistic defensive play from midfielders so this isn't going to get changed. It's a design choice to help fut kiddies score goals cuz they can't if the game plays realistically.
            Yes, that's true...I posted here a statement from Sam Rivera Lead Gameplay Producer for FIFA.
            Read it and you will understand why the CM will not tracking back in Fifa 22: a precise design choice
            Here is the post:

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            • sleepyheaddd
              Rookie
              • Oct 2014
              • 12

              #141
              Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

              I can't even comprehend that they can't make a "simulation" mode where in CM players can play realisticaly.

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              • The EVHL
                Pro
                • Nov 2014
                • 802

                #142
                Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again...

                Originally posted by electrickeeper
                I forget where I saw it, it may have been here, but someone described what FIFA has devolved into as merely a fighting game where you kick a ball. Get the right combination of skill moves and exploits and you've got a goal every time.

                Unfortunately they nailed it. Maybe one day it'll be a sport simulation, but I'm not too hopeful.
                Yep, this is how all of their games are developed now which is why they all feel robotic, lack goal (scoring) variety, and lack soul/passion for the sport. It's about memorizing the button combinations for success as the games are built for the online crowd.
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                • Dazza1
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 509

                  #143
                  Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again...

                  CM not tracking back in 21 was a game breaker for me..from what I have read it looks like the same in 22. Sad to say this but looks like I’ll be skipping 22. For the first time in a very long time it looks like I will not be purchasing Fifa. The game is not longer a simulation, it’s an arcade version of football. Sad.


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                  • Chrisx
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 297

                    #144
                    Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                    I will be skipping it for the 3rd year in a row and I can tell you it's easier to do so with each passing year and older games are still fun.

                    I can only seriously consider the game again if they work on a new mode with AI defending like in the past or more sliders, I don't know, but it seems their FUT gameplay will forever be end to end ice skating and that's not exactly what I look for in a football game, lol.

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                    • Matt10
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 16663

                      #145
                      Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                      In the 22 beta, the CM's did track back just fine. You will see them sprinting back into the box. They are still a bit too stagnant my preference, but at least they are much, much better than 21's indifferent defending.
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                      • ImmortalMindz
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 494

                        #146
                        Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                        Originally posted by Matt10
                        In the 22 beta, the CM's did track back just fine. You will see them sprinting back into the box. They are still a bit too stagnant my preference, but at least they are much, much better than 21's indifferent defending.
                        This was my experience as well. Definitely improved but still not quite how I wish it played.

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                        • fideco
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 282

                          #147
                          Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                          Originally posted by Matt10
                          In the 22 beta, the CM's did track back just fine. You will see them sprinting back into the box. They are still a bit too stagnant my preference, but at least they are much, much better than 21's indifferent defending.
                          With sliders at default or modified?

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                          • Mackrel829
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 1261

                            #148
                            Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                            Originally posted by Matt10
                            In the 22 beta, the CM's did track back just fine. You will see them sprinting back into the box. They are still a bit too stagnant my preference, but at least they are much, much better than 21's indifferent defending.
                            This is good to hear! I actually found '21 very enjoyable in spite of the CM issues. If '22 is a moderate improvement in that area then this could genuinely be the best FIFA has ever been.

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                            • Matt10
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 16663

                              #149
                              Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                              Originally posted by fideco
                              With sliders at default or modified?
                              Default for sure. Sliders will help keep them less passive of course. Regardless, they come back to defend. It's no longer 6 v 4 in the def 3rd and box constantly.
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                              • aussie_pride
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 324

                                #150
                                Re: Fifa 22 CM not tracking back again ???

                                Originally posted by Matt10
                                In the 22 beta, the CM's did track back just fine. You will see them sprinting back into the box. They are still a bit too stagnant my preference, but at least they are much, much better than 21's indifferent defending.
                                I'm new to the slider testing game but have we established any correlation between the defensive awareness attribute and midfielders tracking back? Logically speaking, tracking back is a skill not every player excels at. For instance, Roy Keane made a career out of positioning himself correctly and sensing danger. On the contrary, Paul Pogba does not have a clue about what it means to get back and track runners. My overall point is that it is unrealistic to expect midfielders who play for lower league teams to track back in the same manner as an elite box to box or holding midfielder.

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