FIFA 23 Impressions

[voodoo_magic]

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Firstly a general fifa annoyance that seems to be as bad as ever.
I don't understand why my defence can't do things on their own without me taking control. In fifa my defence are literally just pylons for the ai to walk around, backing up all the way into the box until the ai passes to an open guy for the easy goal unless we take control.
I've heard it's the fut players that don't want the ai doing things for them but in the end our experience is horrible compared to how it is in any other sports game.
We all know in madden you can control say the d lineman and no switch and have the ai play according to ratings, or you can switch to the next d player or break up passes etc, but there is a choice.

This game feels worse than last year in how it plays. Some of the delay animations, defence running to triple team someone while leaving players open for 1 on 1's with the keeper. Doesn't look much like football even if you try to change tactics or use the OS community sliders it's a race to get to the other net. No possession passing or pass backs to your defenders to try to break down the opposition.
It looks pretty and I was excited by some of the changes from 22 when I first started.
If your on the fence hoping it will get better the last few fifa's patches usually make it even less sim going forward as they adjust things for fut.
In the end I'm glad I had the ea play to try it and not waste money or time on another poor representation of the sport.

[CujoMatty]

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Firstly a general fifa annoyance that seems to be as bad as ever.
I don't understand why my defence can't do things on their own without me taking control. In fifa my defence are literally just pylons for the ai to walk around, backing up all the way into the box until the ai passes to an open guy for the easy goal unless we take control.
I've heard it's the fut players that don't want the ai doing things for them but in the end our experience is horrible compared to how it is in any other sports game.
We all know in madden you can control say the d lineman and no switch and have the ai play according to ratings, or you can switch to the next d player or break up passes etc, but there is a choice.

This game feels worse than last year in how it plays. Some of the delay animations, defence running to triple team someone while leaving players open for 1 on 1's with the keeper. Doesn't look much like football even if you try to change tactics or use the OS community sliders it's a race to get to the other net. No possession passing or pass backs to your defenders to try to break down the opposition.
It looks pretty and I was excited by some of the changes from 22 when I first started.
If your on the fence hoping it will get better the last few fifa's patches usually make it even less sim going forward as they adjust things for fut.
In the end I'm glad I had the ea play to try it and not waste money or time on another poor representation of the sport.

You can watch a 45 minute half in real life and see 4 or 5 real scoring chances, maybe. In Fifa there is 20 with 5 minute halves.

[Clubman]

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Firstly a general fifa annoyance that seems to be as bad as ever.
I don't understand why my defence can't do things on their own without me taking control. In fifa my defence are literally just pylons for the ai to walk around, backing up all the way into the box until the ai passes to an open guy for the easy goal unless we take control.
I've heard it's the fut players that don't want the ai doing things for them but in the end our experience is horrible compared to how it is in any other sports game.
We all know in madden you can control say the d lineman and no switch and have the ai play according to ratings, or you can switch to the next d player or break up passes etc, but there is a choice.

This game feels worse than last year in how it plays. Some of the delay animations, defence running to triple team someone while leaving players open for 1 on 1's with the keeper. Doesn't look much like football even if you try to change tactics or use the OS community sliders it's a race to get to the other net. No possession passing or pass backs to your defenders to try to break down the opposition.
It looks pretty and I was excited by some of the changes from 22 when I first started.
If your on the fence hoping it will get better the last few fifa's patches usually make it even less sim going forward as they adjust things for fut.
In the end I'm glad I had the ea play to try it and not waste money or time on another poor representation of the sport.

I'm finding this gameplay sluggish and the mechanics/fundamentals are a step back compared to FIFA 22, for me anyway.

You need control at your fingertips and playing online, this isn't happening. I'm struggling to get my team to defend as a unit because I'm individually having to move each and every player. There's no team work, it's just me! And that's the problem, it leaves you feeling emotionless and drained. Scoring goals isn't fun anymore. It's a chore to play and getting boring fast.

[Clubman]

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First fifa ever I'm not having fun playing. I'm generally its good enough type reviewer of fifas. Something about this one is just off. It's flat. The goals don't ever feels special. The player movements are weird. I'm pretty bummed out honestly. What did they do to change the feel of the individual players so much? they all seem the same now.

This. It's draining to play and feels emotionless scoring. The game is just dead.

[DarthRambo]

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Having a lot of fun with the game on 5min halves with some slider adjustments. This game is no doubt tuned and meant to be played using 3-5min halves. You really can't expect to have a simulation experience with all stats. If you expect or try to achieve that you're never going to enjoy this game imo.

As soon as I solely focused on total shots per match only as all I wanted to get right the game has been a blast. The game is completely tuned for an online short game experience that is unable to be fixed for offline games. You'd have to purposely pass the ball around backwards etc in order to get realistic shots and scores on higher minutes.

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[DarthRambo]

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Is it normal that league matches are much tougher than say the Carabao cup or Europa cup?

I ask cause in my Arsenal CM I beat Everton 6-0 in round 2 of the Carabao cup. Then I lose 2-0 to Brently the next match in league play. I've won 3-0 in both my Europa cup group play matches so far with no real feel of competition. But in the PL it's way different. Is this a normal thing on Fifa? I'd hate to dominate a champions league vs everyone but lose to an inferior team in the PL every now and then, which I really like the challenge of.

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[DaTaFuNkZ]

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I hate it.

Sliding brick wall defending from the AI. Just warping into the perfect position time and again. Overpowered recovery pace, AI defenders making up 5 yards and literally running though the back of your attacker and taking the ball. If you do manage to get space or time after battering yourself into the wall again and again, space opens up and immediately either the pass doesn’t leave your foot, is chronically Under-hit or your player inexplicably pauses to allow the defence to catch up, or horrendous touch or unnecessary touch. AI players made of steel regardless of size, win every physical battle and stop you dead in your tracks. Every 2nd challenge a blatant foul as they just smash through you, especially in the area. with no fouls given. If you can see the challenge coming and you’re attempting to change direction or pass the ball, the game goes into auto mode and just draws you into the defender like a magnet. Interceptions and blocking just stupid. Superhuman reaction times picking off passes and re-positioning to block any and everything time and again.

Passing is completely broken. There’s no first time passes allowed, at all, every attempt at a first time pass of any description results in the bobbling to the nearest defender. Through passes don’t work at all, they just drift to the nearest opponent. Crossing is pointless, if it reaches the 6 yard box it is pulled magnetically to the keeper or defenders heads, more often than not. Passing angles just not available.

I’d say 5% of passes in the oppositions half, that aren’t bog standard sideways passes, go in the direction you want with the power you want. Most goals conceded come from an easy pass being inexplicably scuffed 4 inches from the passers toe, while they go into stasis and stand still and watch as the AI picks the ball up and drives forward before robotically passing the ball around, or just through, your defenders before scoring.

Shooting is dead. Everything goes straight at the keeper or out for a throw-in, unless the scripting has determined you’re going to score, in which case you’ll do something incredible without knowing how. Finesse shot is just a joke, an actual joke.

This is all infuriating because in the beta passing was superb. Through pass maybe slightly overpowered, finesse shot a bit overpowered, and AI defending for both teams thick as ****. They’ve ruined the entire game by taking all the fun elements out and turning it into a relentless grind of frustration.

[poulka]

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Is it normal that league matches are much tougher than say the Carabao cup or Europa cup?

I ask cause in my Arsenal CM I beat Everton 6-0 in round 2 of the Carabao cup. Then I lose 2-0 to Brently the next match in league play. I've won 3-0 in both my Europa cup group play matches so far with no real feel of competition. But in the PL it's way different. Is this a normal thing on Fifa? I'd hate to dominate a champions league vs everyone but lose to an inferior team in the PL every now and then, which I really like the challenge of.

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My experience has been in Fifa is sometime in league play I will beat a league favorite and then lose to a bottom dweller. Thirty has been my experience PL and La Ligament, as well Bundesliga. The cup competitions can be challenging too no matter who it is. Some matches feel easy, but they bring some unexpected challenges too. Getting back to league I think what game tries to do is limit your points in league play. Meaning when you start excelling then it will everything in its power let’s say to keep you out of the top four. This is done purely on talent of team. The more star and top rated players your club has it gets easier. So I try to stay away from mega stars. I like to develop wonder kids and see the club develop over multiple seasons.

[Peterswan62]

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I think I had three good long sessions of 23 until the standard fifa demons returned. Nothing has changed with my settings or sliders but the gameplay has just becone the usual fifa farce again.

I've just played a cup game against Swindon. Or should I say I've just played against Brazil or Man City. Maybe both at the same time.
It doesn't matter how I've changed the sliders today, I've played the worlds greatest trams every match. Yes sir, league one of the EFL certainly has some incredible talent. Then again its fifa so the world's worst players are always the greatest.
I don't know if there's been an update for ps5 but the game has gone from being brilliant to the standard garbage
The gameplay changed from being balanced and really stunning to the cpu being totally relentless for 90 minutes. They never stopped coming at me for match after match today. The last match against Brazil in the FA Cup I just gave up
I'll return to playing some other game on pc tomorrow. I'm not going to waste time with this rubbish.
At least I had three decent sessions. That's more than I had with 22.
It's just so frustrating. At least ea are consistent

[Peterswan62]

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Against my better judgement I've persevered with the game today. I've paid a lot of money for it so I have to carry on

So today I've changed the sliders a bit and gone down to legendary. I still keep playing Brazil in English league 1.its rediculous how these players perform.
And now at the January window I've had my loan players recalled even though they played almost every game.
Insane but predictably nonsensical stuff from EA.
I'm getting to that point of selling the game.
And I'm sick of the early scripted cpu goal happening

[Dazza1]

FIFA 23 Impressions

Someone mentioned earlier that cpu vs cpu was possible in tournament mode which got me excited. However this doesn’t seem to be the case. You still have to control one of the teams…#disappointed.


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[Peterswan62]

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Without a doubt this fifa is the one that got the most sensitive sliders. The slightest change totally changes the games balance. Its also the fifa where the sliders have the most impact on gameplay.
A few days ago my career mode was a train wreck. I'd been sacked for doing well and the gameplay had deteriorated to the point of causing alopecia.
This gane cost my £65 so I wasn't going to give up. So I went over my many years of modding fifa and developing my own mods and slider sets. I've got a massive fifa resource dating back years.
I found some slider sets that are incredibly radical and very different. And to my surprise they have worked and I've had two days of brilliant gameplay and matches. Or is it three days?
The matches are very tight low scoring affairs now. They are tactical battles on legendary level. And I love it.
My last game of the season was a dead match so I changed one slider by 2 points and the entire balance of the game change. That's most unusual in fifa.
I'll move it back by one point and see tomorrow what effect it had.
Fifa had always been difficult to find and strike a balance. Keeping the scores down to sensible levels is also hard.
I've also managed to cure the cpu relentless playing style where they just came on for wave after wave.
The controller settings keep changing without reason. I've found putting jockey to manual makes a big difference and massive improvement. Assisted jockey introduces some ludicrous animations and player movements. It also destroys the fluidity of the game.
This is a fifa that's incredibly sensitive to change in the sliders and settings.
But its worth persevering with.
Fifa 23 is brilliant again.
For the moment or until ea mess things up with an update.

[KG]

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Oh FIFA

The first incoming gameplay patch is going to increase passing speed [emoji2363]


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[Peterswan62]

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I didn't notice any difference today when I played after the patch.

I've had two long brutally hard but brilliant sessions since I went radical on the sliders. I'm back on ultimate again in CM.
After 11 games as Exeter goal diff is 8-11. Chances are at a premium. Every shot has to be worked for tactically.
Man it's hard. But it's incredibly realistic. Now I've gone radical there's no relentless cpu attacking. And amazingly, due to the sliders, I've had no scripted goals in the last second of the match.
So it just goes to show that you can limit the scripting with the sliders. It's only taken me since 1996 to fathom it out.
Once again fifa 23 is brilliant. Long may it last.

[Gee_Simpson]

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I didn't notice any difference today when I played after the patch.

I've had two long brutally hard but brilliant sessions since I went radical on the sliders. I'm back on ultimate again in CM.
After 11 games as Exeter goal diff is 8-11. Chances are at a premium. Every shot has to be worked for tactically.
Man it's hard. But it's incredibly realistic. Now I've gone radical there's no relentless cpu attacking. And amazingly, due to the sliders, I've had no scripted goals in the last second of the match.
So it just goes to show that you can limit the scripting with the sliders. It's only taken me since 1996 to fathom it out.
Once again fifa 23 is brilliant. Long may it last.

Seems like your opinion on the game has completely changed from your initial views which is nice to see.

I enjoy parts of the game but left stick dribbling was a big part of the enjoyment for me on Fifa 22 and as we know it has been nerfed on 23, now most players feel like tanks turning for me. Maybe it's more realistic though, I guess. Any tips for beating the CPU with dribbles? I'm on Legendary difficulty and normal game speed because slow seemed too easy, but more enjoyable. I could dribble to a certain degree on slow, but on normal the CPU are too responsive to beat from what I've experienced. R1 and L1 dribbling is quite useful, though.