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  • CujoMatty
    Member of Rush Nation
    • Oct 2007
    • 5445

    #46
    Re: Gameply is awful

    I have a lot of fun with this game but its only possible by accepting this game is completely unrealistic.

    Watching the man city vs young boys champions League replay and I didn't see:

    -50 shots on goal
    -wingers who could constantly run the length of the field because defenders over pursue.
    -players dribbling it in to the box at will unchallenged
    -players wide open all over the box
    -5 goals a side.

    The AI is so poor that they really only have 1 way to score and that's the leave players wide open in the box method.

    So ya I'm still having fun but I can admit gameplay is pretty bad.
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    • pixelhunter
      Rookie
      • Sep 2021
      • 130

      #47
      Re: Gameply is awful

      So I just played 5 games and I honestly think it's beyond sliders at this point. No negativity towards Matt as ever, this game is starting to affect my general mood. All the CPU does is run down the wing and cut back for a tap in. They play no other way. It's impossible to create chances through the middle of the park and even harder to shoot from range. The power shot is impossible because the CPU blocks everything. My teammates make zero runs so everything has to be generated through 1-2s. I could go on but you get my frustration here. I can maybe hope that a few updates down the line this game can get back to its original state, because it was great initially. Game needs a massive gameplay overhaul in the next update but I genuinely don't see that happening.

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      • Peterswan62
        Rookie
        • Sep 2022
        • 58

        #48
        Re: Gameply is awful

        Yes the gameplay is awful. there is a mod out that does improve things on PC.

        I design my own gameplay mods but thus far they have been impossible for me as EA do not want the game modding.
        I finally had my first full matches yesterday. Until now the game has been unplayable for me.
        The chap who did the mod also came out with a radical set of sliders. I have changed them slightly.
        Thankfully the rediculous cpu running knock on has been eliminated with the mod.
        I expect that EA are already working on breaking any mods. They break mods at will now.
        Tackling is still virtually impossible. Theres still the silly step in animation.
        I have been working to get fouls into the game but my strings wont work in fifa 24.

        the vanilla game is basketball. A non contact sport.
        those on console are stuck with the garbage.

        On pc we at least have a chance.

        Sadly, EA will make modding a game of cat and mouse as they update and break mods time after time.
        Last edited by Peterswan62; 11-01-2023, 08:43 AM.

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        • JayD
          All Star
          • Mar 2004
          • 5457

          #49
          Re: Gameply is awful

          Right, I have started seeing defenders running away from the ball and the dreaded jockey is back. Great.........

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          • Vedreanu
            Rookie
            • Apr 2020
            • 224

            #50
            Re: Gameply is awful

            why do you guys keep buying this piece of crap?


            let it die off...

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            • JayD
              All Star
              • Mar 2004
              • 5457

              #51
              Re: Gameply is awful

              Originally posted by Vedreanu
              why do you guys keep buying this piece of crap?


              let it die off...
              what else do we have....... It's the same for Madden. I actually haven't purchased Madden for the past 2 years.
              Last edited by JayD; 11-08-2023, 01:49 PM.

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              • ArtieChever10
                Just started!
                • Nov 2023
                • 2

                #52
                Re: Gameply is awful

                I liked it better when it was a scripted mess. Never thought I'd say this.

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                • BSDShoes
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 401

                  #53
                  Re: Gameply is awful

                  Jeez, I'm not at all surprised, typical of EA to botch the gameplay before November, it's their yearly tradition going back almost a decade now. I grabbed FIFA 23 for $12 a month ago and dropped it in less than 2 weeks, game felt like crap and makes it so easy to not even want to play their games anymore.

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                  • Fifatas
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2018
                    • 298

                    #54
                    Re: Gameply is awful

                    Anyone know when the new face scans will drop... Been 2 or 3 updates since we were shown them?



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                    • whyalwaysjimbo
                      Just started!
                      • Oct 2023
                      • 3

                      #55
                      Re: Gameply is awful

                      I'm having similar problems. Playing World Class. Semi assisted with Matt10 sliders. I did have player based difficulty on but turned it off thinking that might be the reason it was impossible to defend however a quick play today showed that isnt the case.

                      It feels like when the AI wants to score, it will. Tried to play Man Utd away at Arsenal in career mode. Straight from kick off they waltz through defence.

                      I've watched videos showing tips. Keep shape, use shoulder charge, jockey second man press. I'm not sure if my game is broken but I am getting close to a player, pressing x (apparently this is shoulder charge but on the command list it says its circle?) and ccording to the video my player should barge him out of the way but nothing is happening.

                      Their player runs down the wing. I try sprint jockey, apparently that should bring my player right close to theirs so he can block any cross, but nope. Gets nowhere near him.

                      Or their player will just turn easily and beat their man cut inside shoot and score.

                      On Professional games were finishing 5-3 in my favour, on World Class more likely 5-3 against me and even if they dont score they're having about 20 shots in the first half.

                      It's unrealistic and unplayable and I think I may have to take it to CEX

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                      • hecbel
                        Rookie
                        • May 2022
                        • 312

                        #56
                        Re: Gameply is awful

                        Originally posted by whyalwaysjimbo
                        I'm having similar problems. Playing World Class. Semi assisted with Matt10 sliders. I did have player based difficulty on but turned it off thinking that might be the reason it was impossible to defend however a quick play today showed that isnt the case.

                        It feels like when the AI wants to score, it will. Tried to play Man Utd away at Arsenal in career mode. Straight from kick off they waltz through defence.

                        I've watched videos showing tips. Keep shape, use shoulder charge, jockey second man press. I'm not sure if my game is broken but I am getting close to a player, pressing x (apparently this is shoulder charge but on the command list it says its circle?) and ccording to the video my player should barge him out of the way but nothing is happening.

                        Their player runs down the wing. I try sprint jockey, apparently that should bring my player right close to theirs so he can block any cross, but nope. Gets nowhere near him.

                        Or their player will just turn easily and beat their man cut inside shoot and score.

                        On Professional games were finishing 5-3 in my favour, on World Class more likely 5-3 against me and even if they dont score they're having about 20 shots in the first half.

                        It's unrealistic and unplayable and I think I may have to take it to CEX
                        can you upload a video of your settings and one of your games? So we can help you

                        Also, player based difficulty has notting to do with defense. It only afects two players who you can see with the arrow pointing down above their heads. They are just overpowered in dribbling and shoting.

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                        • gsize19
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 711

                          #57
                          Re: Gameply is awful

                          I am going to speak as a very casual soccer fan. I have had different iterations of FIFA over the years, usually get them at a discount when they go on sale like today with FC24, and typically they get 8-10 hours of gameplay total, but I can see this years game for me, I will make it through a season finally. I have played three games and this is the first year I have really enjoyed the game. I did like the FIFA's, but not enough to continue playing.

                          Now granted, I am only playing as an offline player, I don't know the sport well enough to venture to online games, and thru three games of the preseason tourney with my hometown FC Cincinnati, I have seen realistic scores playing 10 minutes halves (professional). 2-1; 2-0, 1-1...

                          I don't play the FUT or Volta, so I can't speak on those... But offline manager mode, I find it enjoyable thus far and have not seen any glitches...
                          If you keep bowing down and praising the developers, (NHL series) nothing they give us the consumer will ever be a "finished" product. Take a stand, it is your money!!!.

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                          • Fiddy
                            Twitch/YouTube: Fiddy14
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 12676

                            #58
                            Re: Gameply is awful

                            Originally posted by gsize19
                            I am going to speak as a very casual soccer fan. I have had different iterations of FIFA over the years, usually get them at a discount when they go on sale like today with FC24, and typically they get 8-10 hours of gameplay total, but I can see this years game for me, I will make it through a season finally. I have played three games and this is the first year I have really enjoyed the game. I did like the FIFA's, but not enough to continue playing.

                            Now granted, I am only playing as an offline player, I don't know the sport well enough to venture to online games, and thru three games of the preseason tourney with my hometown FC Cincinnati, I have seen realistic scores playing 10 minutes halves (professional). 2-1; 2-0, 1-1...

                            I don't play the FUT or Volta, so I can't speak on those... But offline manager mode, I find it enjoyable thus far and have not seen any glitches...
                            Sadly, I feel like to enjoy any sports games anymore being a casual fan is where it's at. I'm having a blast with FC 24. NHL 24, not so much. But I bet if I was a casual fan of the NHL I would have a blast as well. Frustrating.
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                            • Grazz1
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 412

                              #59
                              Re: Gameply is awful

                              So I'm having a much better time with this game, using Matt10's sliders and adjusting a few of the options, based on quality of the team i'm using and what i'm seeing on the pitch.

                              For example, using a league 2 team it can be harder (for me), to have much of the ball in midfield. Also Matt10's sliders (for me) were producing too much attacking pressure from some CPU teams, plus even as Arsenal vs lower quality teams I wasn't controlling the action enough and was having less shots than the likes of Bournemouth, Everton, Palace and other mid table teams.

                              I would highly suggest you try the following, as the games very decent with a few tweaks.

                              Take Matt10's and for anyone who isn't scoring enough and conceding too many simply improve the following sliders for the user:

                              Sprint speed
                              Acceleration
                              Shot error
                              Pass error
                              Shot speed
                              Pass speed

                              Then make them worse for the cpu by the same amount.

                              For example, as a test I made these numbers 5 points better for the user, e.g. Acceleration was +5, whereas Shot Error was -5. I made the cpu scores 5 points worse each.

                              The result was I went from a 0-0 in a game on Matt10's sliders, followed by being 4-0 up within 20 minutes (5 minutes halves), vs Brentford in the very next game. Quite eye opening how much these 6 sliders control the game.

                              Good starting point and shows that a 5 point change on each sliders was too much.

                              So next game try either a 2 or 3 point change for each slider and see how that goes.

                              I've found by doing that I can get to a point where I'm playing like Arsenal, e.g. I'm passing the ball in midfield more, in an Arsenal like way. Against lower league teams I can have more possession and shots, but against top teams not quite so much.

                              My last 2 games I went 1-0 up vs Newcastle, only to lose 2-1. Followed by a 0-0 vs Liverpool. Possession and shots were about even overall. I knew vs Liverpool I had to really try and keep possession and not lose possession to allow them a counter attack with me scrambling, with players out of position, or not enough players back. Point being I think we can largely find a balance to fit our own abilities, certainly for offline play.

                              The last thing to try, is adjusting gk ability, but I don't think I'll need to.

                              Currently (for me), FC 24 looks more like a real football game than I've ever seen. I'm having to pass the ball amongst the defense more, really focus on not losing possession, and rely on trying to create a few good chances through long sequences of passes, and counter attacks. The game looks more simulation than arcade than ever, when I'm in possession. I need to do more testing to get the cpu looking and scoring right on the ball, but I'm hopeful.
                              Last edited by Grazz1; 11-19-2023, 12:17 AM.

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                              • LucianoJJ
                                Pro
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 593

                                #60
                                Re: Gameply is awful

                                I quit playing FIFA 23 earlier than usual last year because of the lack of defense. I swore I wouldn't buy FC 24. I caved because Best Buy had the disc version for XBOX Series X was 50%. Defense is bad again. I have lacrosse scores. I played legendary last year. After a slow start in my first game, the difficulty dropped me down to Semi-Pro. Needless to say, this motivated me and I moved up to World Class after a few games.



                                The catch up AI in this game is ridiculous. Score on the CPU and they answer right back with a goal like it's a basketball game. Please patch the defense, EA.



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