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  • Krebstar
    is looking at stats.
    • May 2005
    • 12904

    #181
    Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

    Originally posted by foster1979
    nice 1 i was looking through your work on the spreadsheet, very impressive

    have you any ideas on Milan, inter, Roma ect. I did notice someone had posted them earlier on the thread but noticed you hadn't added to the project.
    See the update below.

    -------------------------------------

    Monday Update:
    + Serie A complete. (tactics and formations)
    + Added four new tactics.

    Realism Project Spreadsheet
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...3lOQ0g3QTA1eVE

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    • foster1979
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      • Oct 2011
      • 20

      #182
      Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

      just to say thanks for all your hard work Krebs and everyone else involved. I have added all the CTTs and it definitely makes teams play up to their standards example Barcelona with tika taka passing. i have also noticed individual players like Stevie Gerrard taking long shots, didn't see this before with defaults.

      couple of questions for you how I was asking you yesterday what sliders you were using for the custom tactics and formations, and you said you were using jd's. so i went ahead and i have started to use them i have set my sprint at 36 and acceleration on 48, was there anything else you changed with them example shot speed and pass speed??? also, how many minutes are you playing and have you altered the game speed to slow or kept it at normal??

      my reason for the questions is that i feel like i am getting to many shots in a game and i am on legendary, full manual, 15 minute halves and normal game speed.

      foster1979

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      • RedAL925
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        • Apr 2008
        • 260

        #183
        Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

        Any future plans to add MLS?
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        • Krebstar
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          • May 2005
          • 12904

          #184
          Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

          Originally posted by foster1979
          just to say thanks for all your hard work Krebs and everyone else involved. I have added all the CTTs and it definitely makes teams play up to their standards example Barcelona with tika taka passing. i have also noticed individual players like Stevie Gerrard taking long shots, didn't see this before with defaults.

          couple of questions for you how I was asking you yesterday what sliders you were using for the custom tactics and formations, and you said you were using jd's. so i went ahead and i have started to use them i have set my sprint at 36 and acceleration on 48, was there anything else you changed with them example shot speed and pass speed??? also, how many minutes are you playing and have you altered the game speed to slow or kept it at normal??

          my reason for the questions is that i feel like i am getting to many shots in a game and i am on legendary, full manual, 15 minute halves and normal game speed.

          foster1979
          I may have lowered passing speed, but not sure. I do play on the low speed setting, though. Otherwise, not sure if I changed anything at all.

          Originally posted by RedAL925
          Any future plans to add MLS?
          Eventually, yes. The goal is to eventually assign custom tactics to every team in the game. Which may until FIFA 13, but oh well. Eventually, many will just be random as there isn't enough information.

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          • OSUFan_88
            Outback Jesus
            • Jul 2004
            • 25642

            #185
            Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

            Kreb, just curious, but the Villa, Blackburn, and Bolton tactics, with the exception of a few teams who might use a more Fullham like tactic, is what you would use for lower league teams, right?

            That's what I did for most of the Championship, League 1 and 2 teams.

            What about lower leagues in other countries?

            I know I am jumping ahead here, but just really curious.
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            • Krebstar
              is looking at stats.
              • May 2005
              • 12904

              #186
              Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

              Originally posted by OSUFan_88
              Kreb, just curious, but the Villa, Blackburn, and Bolton tactics, with the exception of a few teams who might use a more Fullham like tactic, is what you would use for lower league teams, right?

              That's what I did for most of the Championship, League 1 and 2 teams.

              What about lower leagues in other countries?

              I know I am jumping ahead here, but just really curious.
              For Championship-League 2, yes. Perhaps a few like Fulham/Swansea thrown in as some lower teams try and play attractive football. Which of course can sound like everyone will play the same, but eventually I'll list what formations each side use as well, which helps switch things up. Plus, different players on different teams all do things a bit differently.

              For other leagues, as of now, not so sure.

              I do think one of the next things I want to do is list the full Premier League-League 2 tactics and formations since it's the most popular league to play with. Most lower league sides will be randomly assigned tactics, though. Formations on the other hand will be much more realistic or close to.

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              • LindseySix
                Rookie
                • May 2012
                • 5

                #187
                Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

                Hey all,

                Great thread here. Nice to know there's others who like to chase down ways
                to improve their FIFA experience by squeezing everything you can out of the tools EA decides to give us.

                I generally start my CM's as a player in the MLS before moving on to bigger and better sides, so by way of trying to contribute to this ambitious project I did some research on MLS team formations (from fixtures played so far this season). As far as tactics, the general consensus I can find is that teams fall mostly into two categories in MLS: those who play high pressure defense and move the ball forward quickly in attack and those who attempt to play a more 'beautiful' tactical game. If anyone can suggest a couple of the current CTTs in the project that fit these two playstyles, we can probably get them assigned to teams. My thought is that (generally speaking) the teams with top talent will be the 'beautiful' tactical sides, and the lower table clubs probably more the high pressure types.

                On to formations (all information from www dot football-lineups dot com based on fixture played in 2012 season). Teams with more than one formation will be listed [team name] [primary formation] ; [secondary formation (provided it was used more than once)]. Priority is based only on the number of times a formation was used.

                Vancouver 4-2-3-1; 4-3-3 (4-1-2-3 shape)

                Colorado 4-2-3-1; 4-1-3-2

                Columbus 4-4-2; 4-1-3-2

                D.C. 4-1-3-2

                Kansas City 4-3-3 (4-2-1-3 shape)

                San Jose 4-1-3-2

                New England 4-1-3-2

                Los Angeles 4-4-2

                Salt Lake 4-1-3-2 (similar to diamond midfield shape)

                Dallas 4-1-4-1; 4-1-3-2

                New York 4-1-3-2

                Chivas 4-2-3-1; 4-1-3-2

                Houston 4-4-2; 4-1-3-2

                Portland 4-4-2; 4-1-3-2

                Philadelphia 4-2-3-1; 3-4-1-2

                Chicago 4-3-1-2

                Seattle 4-1-3-2

                Toronto is sort of a special case. They've used both a 4-1-4-1 and a 4-3-3 (4-1-2-3 shape) in two fixtures each. In other matches they've used a 5-4-1, 4-2-1-3, and a 4-2-3-1 each once. They seem a bit a team in search of an identity if they can be judged by their formation choices.

                If anyone is interested in Montreal, who I don't think made the lineup in Fifa 12 (but at least we have creation center now..) they've used a 4-4-2 exclusively so far.

                Cheers and keep up the good work!

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                • orion523
                  All Star
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6709

                  #188
                  Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

                  I have a question about the CTT's, and how the game applies them to Manager Mode. After inputting the CTT's for the big 5 in Europe, I started a new CM and "downloaded the latest roster, by doing that, all team tactics went back to default(I know this because my team was back at default despite having edited it.)
                  After noticing that I started another CM using "current customized" rosters and voila my club still had their CTT's applied.

                  So is it now safe to say that you must use the current customized roster option in order apply the CTT's to a CM?

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                  • Krebstar
                    is looking at stats.
                    • May 2005
                    • 12904

                    #189
                    Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

                    Originally posted by orion523
                    I have a question about the CTT's, and how the game applies them to Manager Mode. After inputting the CTT's for the big 5 in Europe, I started a new CM and "downloaded the latest roster, by doing that, all team tactics went back to default(I know this because my team was back at default despite having edited it.)
                    After noticing that I started another CM using "current customized" rosters and voila my club still had their CTT's applied.

                    So is it now safe to say that you must use the current customized roster option in order apply the CTT's to a CM?
                    Yes, you must. By choosing download the latest roster, you're choosing to not start with your currently loaded squads, and instead basically choose "default" squads.

                    This is why you also must be careful with your saves. When playing online, and it makes you download new squads, it could easily overwrite all the CTTs that you put in the game. This is why I have three squad saves. One is my Realistic Settings. The next is the backup of the Realistic Settings. Essentially, each time I save, I save it twice. No way they both would get overwritten. Then, I have a regular squad file for use when playing online. So if I know I'm playing online, I load that one up.
                    Last edited by Krebstar; 05-05-2012, 08:41 PM.

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                    • Fly8Eagles4Fly
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 54

                      #190
                      Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

                      These CTT's with JDs sliders are absolutely brilliant. Teams will build up on attack, especially against sides such as Arsenal and the like. Teams play like themselves, rather than a back and forth goal fest. I've gotten everything up to date, and am ready to input the rest and start my Manager mode as soon as La Liga is completed. Great work. Much appreciated.
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                      • LindseySix
                        Rookie
                        • May 2012
                        • 5

                        #191
                        Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

                        After going through the CTTs again and looking at the formations, I'm gonna be using these for the MLS teams in my CM. I think they represent a good mix of formations with a balance of play styles across teams that favor fast build-up/longer passing and those that favor possession/crafting chances. These were all designed to fit into Krebstar's currently designed formations and tactics, so if any get added as more leagues come in, updates will be possible.

                        CTT A:
                        Vancouver 4-2-3-1 v5
                        Chivas 4-2-3-1 v1
                        Columbus 4-2-2 v2
                        D.C. 4-3-1-2 v4
                        San Jose 4-3-1-2 v3

                        CTT B:
                        Philadelphia 4-2-3-1 v6
                        New England 4-3-1-2 v2
                        Toronto 4-3-3 v2

                        CTT C:

                        Colorado 4-2-3-1 v2
                        Houston 4-4-2 v3
                        Portland 4-4-2 v1
                        Salt Lake 4-3-1-2 v1
                        Chicago 4-3-1-2 v4
                        Dallas 4-1-4-1 v1

                        CTT D

                        Los Angeles 4-4-2 v5
                        New York 4-3-1-2 v3
                        Seattle 4-3-1-2 v1
                        Kansas City 4-3-3 v2
                        Last edited by LindseySix; 05-22-2012, 11:11 AM. Reason: Edit to include Toronto FC and change format to angelacos' easier to read one.

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                        • leecopp10
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3

                          #192
                          Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

                          Cool thread, just checked it out now and added it to my FIFA, Plus I've been using the FIFA 12 Ultimate Guide for the past month and now I'm beating everyone i play against on online H2H.

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                          • angelacos
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 53

                            #193
                            Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

                            Hey gents. Just completed the Portuguese league. I noticed that the teams in the league use the following formations in real life. 4-1-2-3, 4-1-3-2, 4-2-3-1. I had come up with a few CTTs and formations. However, is there any template that I can use to put up my formations like Krebster did to his? And one more thing, why is it that after saving the formations, the name of the formations changed? Eg: 4-2-3-1 v5 changed to 4-5-1? I can't get it to be renamed to the ones like Krebster. If anyone knows how the formations can be renamed, it would be of great help. Anyways, here are the CTTs and formations for the teams:

                            Porto: 4-3-3 v2, CTT: O
                            Braga: 4-2-3-1 v5, CTT: Atl Bilbao
                            Sporting Lisbon: 4-2-3-1 v1, CTT: 6/10/Free, 90/70/70/Free, 35/33/67/Cover
                            Vit Guimaraes: 4-2-3-1 v2, CTT: Alt Madrid
                            Nacional: 4-2-3-1 v1, CTT: 10/15/Org, 70/70/75/Org, 35/33/67/Offside
                            Olhanense: 4-2-3-1 v3, CTT:6/10/Free, 90/70/70/Free, 35/33/67/Cover
                            V Barcelos (Gil Vicente): 4-2-3-1 v4, CTT: Alt Madrid
                            Pacos Ferreira: 4-3-3 v2, CTT:Alt Bilbao
                            Vitoria: 4-3-3 v2, CTT: 6/10/Free, 90/70/70/Free, 35/33/67/Cover
                            F Santa Maria: 4-2-3-1 v6, CTT: 6/10/Free, 90/70/70/Free, 35/33/67/Cover
                            Uniao Leira: 4-2-3-1 v6, CTT: Q

                            These teams below play the following formations in real life:
                            Benfica: 4-1-3-2, CTT: Alt Madrid
                            C Funchal: 4-1-2-3, CTT: 10/15/Free, 70/60/75/Org, 35/33/67/Offside
                            Beira Mar: 4-1-3-2, CTT: 10/15/Free, 70/60/75/Org, 35/33/67/Offside
                            Rio Ave: 4-1-2-3, CTT: Q
                            Academia: 4-1-2-3, CTT Q

                            Hope you guys try it out and comment if there are changes to be made. Cheers and have fun.
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                            • angelacos
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 53

                              #194
                              Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

                              Anyways, can I know why is it that everytime when I try to play in CM, it keeps freezing. Not allowing me to start my CM. Is there any way I can go about fixing this as it is frustrating. Also for anyone keen to help out to put formations into teams, here is a good website you can take a look at: football-lineups. Cheers
                              YNWA since 1986

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                              • Fiddy
                                Twitch/YouTube: Fiddy14
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 12682

                                #195
                                Re: Official FIFA 12 Custom Team Tactics Thread

                                crap, posted this in wrong thread the other day.. bah.

                                just wanted to add, i edited a few teams in the EPL. wow, what a world of difference. still not perfect, but this is 100% better than how the teams play on default out of box. great job.

                                i been playing a ton of PES 12 as of late bc of how it plays on the pitch compared to Fifa. while IMO that still is better your settings have made Fifa playable for me offline.

                                thank you!!
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