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  • Dbaja22
    MVP
    • Nov 2016
    • 1434

    #4906
    Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

    I'm enjoying this game less n less . After playing with some adjustments giving the cpu the advantage to make it a challenge for me , I decided to come back simply cuz I had to give way too many advantages to the cpu which resulted in very unrealistic n wayyyy to tough games . But this is just ridiculous. Prior sets my CM was always with My beloved Liverpool and I've never won the league with them , nor have I ever beat Man city and Man United . But now I've switched to Southampton with this current 'set' and it's never been easier . For the first time in fifa 17 I've beat Man city and Man United every time I've played them .Pretty much all my games are like this . Just the pass accuracy makes me shake my head . Its soooooo ridiculously easy to constantly pass n just dribble forward . Yes EASY . What else would you call it . I've said it before on many occasions that the cpu just doesn't seem to care about defending . I never stop moving forward . Everyone is always open .
    They are no threat at all . This is just Leicester someone might say , but it doesn't matter who I face it's not much different . And yes I play full manual and tactical defending and all that . When I used to come home from school or work the first thing I would do is go straight for my ps4 controller. Not no more . I keep telling myslef, ok maybe it was "just that match" so give it another go . People say form and what place a team is in the league may affect this so I gave it many more chances and it's always the same result . Me DOMINATING. I'm really staring to question why people are happy with this set ? Winning more games then before ? Beating teams that you really struggled against in prior sets? I just really don't understand. In prior sets I was Liverpool and I would get thumped by Watford and stoke on a regular basis. Now I'm beating Man United n Man city like they we're a league 2 side . well sorry for the long *** rant . I look forward soooo much to the wkknds so I can get some play time in and now I've lost all joy from fifa 17 . 20170311_233254_HDR.jpg

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    • Matt10
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2006
      • 16621

      #4907
      Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

      Originally posted by Dbaja22
      I'm enjoying this game less n less . After playing with some adjustments giving the cpu the advantage to make it a challenge for me , I decided to come back simply cuz I had to give way too many advantages to the cpu which resulted in very unrealistic n wayyyy to tough games . But this is just ridiculous. Prior sets my CM was always with My beloved Liverpool and I've never won the league with them , nor have I ever beat Man city and Man United . But now I've switched to Southampton with this current 'set' and it's never been easier . For the first time in fifa 17 I've beat Man city and Man United every time I've played them .Pretty much all my games are like this . Just the pass accuracy makes me shake my head . Its soooooo ridiculously easy to constantly pass n just dribble forward . Yes EASY . What else would you call it . I've said it before on many occasions that the cpu just doesn't seem to care about defending . I never stop moving forward . Everyone is always open .
      They are no threat at all . This is just Leicester someone might say , but it doesn't matter who I face it's not much different . And yes I play full manual and tactical defending and all that . When I used to come home from school or work the first thing I would do is go straight for my ps4 controller. Not no more . I keep telling myslef, ok maybe it was "just that match" so give it another go . People say form and what place a team is in the league may affect this so I gave it many more chances and it's always the same result . Me DOMINATING. I'm really staring to question why people are happy with this set ? Winning more games then before ? Beating teams that you really struggled against in prior sets? I just really don't understand. In prior sets I was Liverpool and I would get thumped by Watford and stoke on a regular basis. Now I'm beating Man United n Man city like they we're a league 2 side . well sorry for the long *** rant . I look forward soooo much to the wkknds so I can get some play time in and now I've lost all joy from fifa 17 . [ATTACH]132304[/ATTACH]

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      Keep in mind the patch updates post 1.05 have not been generous to us at all. It is still a lot of forward-forward. It's such a balance of chosen sacrifices though. On one side you raise length, you get more bodies in front, on the other hand you lower length and now you have more compression, but less players getting into the attack.

      The issue with this 1.06 and beyond is that the runs from all players are dead sprints north-south. Then the passes just follow suit. There is less shape of the beautiful 55/45/55 (HLW) that was so good before because players are warped out of position even more than before, especially with the reemergence of ADD when marking is raised. So again, HLW + Marking, the combo that must be determined, without letting things fall apart. Sorry, the 58/40/70 HLW and 78 Marking from before just couldn't keep up, and made every match a 0-0 or 1-0 result, with a less than impressive CPU attack.

      So that takes it to this set. It is what it is to compensate for a lot of the post patch. Heads have been racked to get the CPU to be more of a threat, without making it arcade-like, then heads have also been racked to maintain any form of a shape defensively on both ends. I would say this set was created from a community's trial and error, and still feel very strongly of just how good it is.

      I would suggest if you can identify what areas of the game that are making it easy, it would be much easier to diagnose on what can be used to combat it. There is always something, and I am particular about things like a player being out of position, or a player simply not putting up any resistance, etc.

      If you are able to pass at will, that tells me there is not any resistance from the CPU. By the looks of the shot count and location, it would indicate that the midfield is being bypassed very easily - basically, no resistance, ala the theme of 1.06 and 1.07.

      The thing is, adjust gradually. People always go crazy and adjust too many values. I suggest adjusting one specific value to see the desired result, and if it doesn't work, move on to another value. Only then tweak another value to compliment it (i.e. length increased for CPU only, but marking raised as they may get too far ahead of the defensive third, etc).

      Overall, more detail specifically would help. I get bummed reading rants of poor experiences, because I know it's possible and there is always something to look at. I look forward to hearing your specific thoughts and how it can get more challenging. There are always options .
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      • rody2k6
        Pro
        • Feb 2008
        • 578

        #4908
        Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

        Guys I been playing fifa 17 since January and haven't used sliders which is crazy since I had used them for all the other fifas that had them. Anyways, on the YouTube video it says world class or legendary and 10 or 15 min halves. Thing is I think 10 is way too much I usually play 7, can I use these slides for 7 minutes or am I missing having great games if I don't go to 10 minute halves?

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        • Aaron458f
          MVP
          • Nov 2015
          • 2357

          #4909
          FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders



          First game in awhile!! Changed the user pass speed to 40 for the first half and 42 2nd half seems a lot harder than on 45 as it's abit to fast and easy to pass on 45 seemed to be more physical from the cpu to will test more also makes you use the driven pass to spread it out wide for a long pass


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          Last edited by Aaron458f; 03-12-2017, 10:39 AM.

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          • Aaron458f
            MVP
            • Nov 2015
            • 2357

            #4910
            FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders



            Good game cpu defo seem more physical with the user on the lower pass speed as the ball takes little bit longer to get to the player and they are on you like **** forcing tackles etc


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            Last edited by Aaron458f; 03-12-2017, 03:31 PM.

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            • adoptedscouse
              Pro
              • Oct 2013
              • 882

              #4911
              Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

              I'm loving this slider set, never seen so many fouls & bookings & I'm getting cpu attacking me quite a lot & this is on World Class.


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              • GoBlue81188
                MVP
                • Jul 2004
                • 1801

                #4912
                Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                Been running with 49/50 ACC, and it's done wonders for my game. Just gives the CPU that little bit of extra gear to really hurt my mistakes. I've had to adjust again and stop just sprinting into every tackle.

                Fun stuff!
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                • JimmyTheMeatball
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 236

                  #4913
                  Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                  Originally posted by lhsballa11
                  Been running with 49/50 ACC, and it's done wonders for my game. Just gives the CPU that little bit of extra gear to really hurt my mistakes. I've had to adjust again and stop just sprinting into every tackle.

                  Fun stuff!
                  I like it too.
                  I'm using 49/50acc for away matches now...At least until I can step up to the WC-Home/Legendary-Away set up.
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                  • GoBlue81188
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 1801

                    #4914
                    Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                    Originally posted by JimmyTheMeatball
                    I like it too.
                    I'm using 49/50acc for away matches now...At least until I can step up to the WC-Home/Legendary-Away set up.
                    What it's done for me is allowed the CPU to utilize the L2 shield again. You have to be very good using it as well, especially on legendary. Actually has slowed the pace of the game down again for me. Weird!
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                    • JimmyTheMeatball
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 236

                      #4915
                      Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                      Originally posted by lhsballa11
                      What it's done for me is allowed the CPU to utilize the L2 shield again. You have to be very good using it as well, especially on legendary. Actually has slowed the pace of the game down again for me. Weird!
                      I have only played 4 games with 49/50 acc, but fouls are also up in every game. Not just more fouls, but better fouls, imo. Some of this, I suspect, is the better cpu shielding that you are talking about. I can't just go banging in there to get the ball away. It requires a little more subtlety.
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                      • Matt10
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 16621

                        #4916
                        Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                        Good stuff, guys. I have been using 49/50 for WC, but haven't jumped into Legendary, may have to give it a look. Nice to know a simple change like that helps.

                        I like Aaron's thought on lower pass speed as well for the user. I just always get flack for lowering it under 45, so figured, why not just keep it. I personally like it lower, but have just grown to remain objective with the community (not just this community in this particular value).
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                        • RobotSophie
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 17

                          #4917
                          Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                          Originally posted by Matt10
                          Good stuff, guys. I have been using 49/50 for WC, but haven't jumped into Legendary, may have to give it a look. Nice to know a simple change like that helps.

                          I like Aaron's thought on lower pass speed as well for the user. I just always get flack for lowering it under 45, so figured, why not just keep it. I personally like it lower, but have just grown to remain objective with the community (not just this community in this particular value).
                          I use 40/32 pass speed. It just seems fairer for me - a +13 point advantage on speed seems noticeable to me in games, and I beat teams I shouldn't really beat, like Real Madrid 3-2 2-0 as Arsenal over two legs. On 40/32 I seem to lose against teams I should lose against most of the time, which is weirdly fun.

                          If you're a really good player, maybe you could go even lower than 40.

                          One thing to point out is I use all the default assists, so I'm not sure how this works with manual passing where you have much more control over the pass power. I highly recommend it to other people who use assists though.

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                          • Aaron458f
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 2357

                            #4918
                            Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                            Originally posted by Matt10
                            Good stuff, guys. I have been using 49/50 for WC, but haven't jumped into Legendary, may have to give it a look. Nice to know a simple change like that helps.

                            I like Aaron's thought on lower pass speed as well for the user. I just always get flack for lowering it under 45, so figured, why not just keep it. I personally like it lower, but have just grown to remain objective with the community (not just this community in this particular value).


                            The lower pass speed seems to work really well tbh more controlled and you can make a lot more mistakes and the cpu takes advantage of it, also like when you want to shift the ball to the wings quickly you have to use the driven pass which adds more to the game!! And looks way more realistic


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                            • RobotSophie
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 17

                              #4919
                              Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                              Originally posted by Dbaja22
                              I'm enjoying this game less n less . After playing with some adjustments giving the cpu the advantage to make it a challenge for me , I decided to come back simply cuz I had to give way too many advantages to the cpu which resulted in very unrealistic n wayyyy to tough games . But this is just ridiculous. Prior sets my CM was always with My beloved Liverpool and I've never won the league with them , nor have I ever beat Man city and Man United . But now I've switched to Southampton with this current 'set' and it's never been easier . For the first time in fifa 17 I've beat Man city and Man United every time I've played them .Pretty much all my games are like this . Just the pass accuracy makes me shake my head . Its soooooo ridiculously easy to constantly pass n just dribble forward . Yes EASY . What else would you call it . I've said it before on many occasions that the cpu just doesn't seem to care about defending . I never stop moving forward . Everyone is always open .
                              They are no threat at all . This is just Leicester someone might say , but it doesn't matter who I face it's not much different . And yes I play full manual and tactical defending and all that . When I used to come home from school or work the first thing I would do is go straight for my ps4 controller. Not no more . I keep telling myslef, ok maybe it was "just that match" so give it another go . People say form and what place a team is in the league may affect this so I gave it many more chances and it's always the same result . Me DOMINATING. I'm really staring to question why people are happy with this set ? Winning more games then before ? Beating teams that you really struggled against in prior sets? I just really don't understand. In prior sets I was Liverpool and I would get thumped by Watford and stoke on a regular basis. Now I'm beating Man United n Man city like they we're a league 2 side . well sorry for the long *** rant . I look forward soooo much to the wkknds so I can get some play time in and now I've lost all joy from fifa 17 . [ATTACH]132304[/ATTACH]

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                              Wow, you must be an amazing player haha!

                              Maybe try 33/33 pass speed and 49/50 acceleration or something?

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                              • abbes
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 65

                                #4920
                                Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                                Just wanted to say thank you so much for those sliders Matt and all community. Game is brilliant now, even if am playing with full auto controls (9mins, Legendary, Slow). Only changes i did was all those things which guys posted just above me - ACC 49/50, cos of auto passing Human Pass Error - 55, and actually am still wondering if i pushed it up enough, and Pass Speed 42. Game is incredibly difficult now - i mean.. as a Man Utd usually am winning with weaker teams, but surprises happens, like 0-2 with Saints at Old Trafford :o or unexpected draws. But with top class opponents game is so tough that am sitting on my chair like on the needles and sometimes just praying to do not loose the goal - and this is the MOST fun in all of this, that it's so easy to lose the game if u gonna lose concentration in defence just for a one small second .

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