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  • kirokiro
    Rookie
    • Nov 2018
    • 99

    #1396
    Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

    Originally posted by Matt10
    Height - 51/51 | (Previous 50/50)
    ► Just raising height to compensate for the lowered marking value. (...)
    Quick question if oversight or intended, now that you suggest marking back at 50, should the height go back down too, or 51 still good?

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    • Matt10
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2006
      • 16621

      #1397
      Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

      Originally posted by kirokiro
      Quick question if oversight or intended, now that you suggest marking back at 50, should the height go back down too, or 51 still good?
      Good point. It is doing fine at 51, so leave it as is. I'll update the OP in the wording when I get the chance. Thanks!
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      • pflynhi
        Rookie
        • Oct 2017
        • 260

        #1398
        Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

        new set played very well on matt's stream
        PC- Fifa20 Legendary/8 min halves/Normal game speed; Pes20 Top Player/15 min match https://www.twitch.tv/pflynhi

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        • abbes
          Rookie
          • Sep 2012
          • 65

          #1399
          Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

          I think it's good amendments Matt.
          RF was definitely too big on 5, I was feeling like on a sprint run during my couple of games on it. Complete end to end, action after action. Very happy about that adjustment now when it get back to 2.
          I'll give it a proper shot now, this new amendments v2b3.

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          • jrnlgrn
            Pro
            • Oct 2018
            • 3076

            #1400
            Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

            Played 2 games my self with the amended set and really enjoyed it.

            The CPU actually would build up and pass it around and try to get me to over commit but not in that cheat-y, fast pass 10 times between the same two players way.

            Defenders seem to actually be aware of what's on the field cutting off long ground passes and trying to get in between the ball and the pass receiver. AI is still dumb but a little more active.

            FT increase takes a bit of adjustment but it's great. Tackles are truly 50/50 and don't always result in the user or CPU winning the ball. You will also see loose balls go into open space like the should.

            Overall great stuff over the last two days and the most recent changes are spot on. The biggest way I found to appreciate the set is stepping back and trying to compare to what I see IRL instead of how a game FIFA usually is. Most of us here want a realistic game experience and when you compare the current set to IRL your enjoyment should go up. It's not a 1:1 representation but that's down to the limits of the game not the sliders.

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            Last edited by jrnlgrn; 11-17-2019, 07:59 PM.
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            • JHG90
              Rookie
              • Dec 2016
              • 143

              #1401
              Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

              Does anyone know what causes this and/or how to fix it? Scoring headers is hard enough as it is this year, let alone with this crap happening. My intended targets are often doing this - running ahead of the ball and swinging at air by head and foot. Not sure if it's slider related. I use semi-assisted passing, crossing and shooting.

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              • abbes
                Rookie
                • Sep 2012
                • 65

                #1402
                Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                Originally posted by JHG90
                Does anyone know what causes this and/or how to fix it? Scoring headers is hard enough as it is this year, let alone with this crap happening. My intended targets are often doing this - running ahead of the ball and swinging at air by head and foot. Not sure if it's slider related. I use semi-assisted passing, crossing and shooting.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp9CI03HviM
                Seems like bad positioning and timing, more like controlling the player (yours) fault than bug to me?

                Did any of you guys noticed this kind of weird behaviour of CPU - they running on the flank, have no options to pass nor cross, so instead they sending long high ball to their defense, which in most cases landing to feet of my striker or crowd? Id doesn't happen too often, but I've seen it like two, three times in my last couple of games.

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                • Matt10
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 16621

                  #1403
                  Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                  Originally posted by abbes
                  Seems like bad positioning and timing, more like controlling the player (yours) fault than bug to me?

                  Did any of you guys noticed this kind of weird behaviour of CPU - they running on the flank, have no options to pass nor cross, so instead they sending long high ball to their defense, which in most cases landing to feet of my striker or crowd? Id doesn't happen too often, but I've seen it like two, three times in my last couple of games.
                  Yeah I've noticed that even before the V2B2 and V2B3. Have seen it on default as well.

                  FIFA's gameplay DNA is based on dribble-dribble-pass, and if they run out of the immediate pass options, they resolve to find the next immediate open man instead of taking a chance and sending a cross in.

                  I had it happen in stream yesterday, so I'll pull the footage and see what the runs off the ball are doing, or what the opponent's defensive line is doing. My hunch is it's a timing in which they know the player is offsides and at the last second they choose not to take that chance. The behavior seems similar to FIFA 14 when the advanced player would choose to dribble instead of shoot/pass in obvious positions.
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                  • abbes
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 65

                    #1404
                    Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                    Originally posted by Matt10
                    Yeah I've noticed that even before the V2B2 and V2B3. Have seen it on default as well.

                    FIFA's gameplay DNA is based on dribble-dribble-pass, and if they run out of the immediate pass options, they resolve to find the next immediate open man instead of taking a chance and sending a cross in.

                    I had it happen in stream yesterday, so I'll pull the footage and see what the runs off the ball are doing, or what the opponent's defensive line is doing. My hunch is it's a timing in which they know the player is offsides and at the last second they choose not to take that chance. The behavior seems similar to FIFA 14 when the advanced player would choose to dribble instead of shoot/pass in obvious positions.
                    Good to know I'm not the only one who experienced that.
                    So I guess this is the situation where EA coders filled up their abilities and engine to maximum and didn't know how to overcome this kind of situation . Probably unfixable. Hopefully new engine on PS5 will get rid this kind of situations.

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                    • sih1984
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 88

                      #1405
                      Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                      My game is running really strangely most of the time now. Speed is ridiculous and players move like a tide all sweeping forward and back. Animations go so fast in final third it almost skips them. Ruins the game. Occasionally I turn on and its playing well but 50/50. Might try resetting sliders and then moving them back again after saving. This happened loads to me on 19 as well so annoying
                      Last edited by sih1984; 11-18-2019, 03:02 PM.

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                      • Matt10
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 16621

                        #1406
                        Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                        Originally posted by abbes
                        Good to know I'm not the only one who experienced that.
                        So I guess this is the situation where EA coders filled up their abilities and engine to maximum and didn't know how to overcome this kind of situation . Probably unfixable. Hopefully new engine on PS5 will get rid this kind of situations.
                        Took a brief look at lunch. Yes, it's similar to some legacy choices of not crossing due to a striker running offsides.

                        There are a couple ways to tackle this. My very, very, brief test was adjust Sprint Speed to match pass speed at 48. This usually syncs things back as well. Once I did this, instantly I could see the difference in choices made. From early crosses, early through balls and lofted ones.

                        Also, saw some previous physicality that was not there in terms of the momentum pushes that would normally not be recognized by the referee:



                        So, I've got something to tinker with. I feel the base set is quite close though. Once that is established, others can make adjustments for their own personal preferences of course. Not sure if it will warrant its own thread, but times have changed. I enjoy reading about others findings and stories in here.
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                        • DavidC82
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2018
                          • 31

                          #1407
                          Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                          This is a really good set. The game plays very well, I must admit.

                          One bit of feedback though, FB Pos at zero is a huge no from me. They just don't step forward at all. Far more natural at fifty!

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                          • Qb
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 8797

                            #1408
                            Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                            Originally posted by DavidC82
                            This is a really good set. The game plays very well, I must admit.

                            One bit of feedback though, FB Pos at zero is a huge no from me. They just don't step forward at all. Far more natural at fifty!
                            I'm not sure about FB Pos @ 0 either. It definitely reigns in the end-to-end, counter down the flanks play, but at what cost? I haven't tested extensively with different teams - particularly those known for attacking fullbacks - but the early returns from a few games in my Mainz CM have inching it up to 5 to match my run frequency setting. Not sure it's properly balanced, as I can see where Matt is coming from that FB behavior didn't change much until it was zeroed out.

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                            • abbes
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 65

                              #1409
                              Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                              I've been just playing against Liverpool and I would say that everything is perfectly fine with fullbacks. I've seen them more often on my half than theirs.

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                              • TopSide83
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 1400

                                #1410
                                Re: FIFA 20 OS Community Sliders

                                What are everyone’s thoughts on game speed to play on? So far I see good things from slow and normal. Also what half length do most of you use?

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