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  • PeruvianPlaya954
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 1463

    #256
    Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

    Originally posted by ps3veron
    Ok but are there many people playing online on the US servers?

    I mean this is no madden or nba2k lol..

    Is it easy to find games?
    For me, this could be the difference between getting the game the first day it drops or maybe a few months down the road when OFs are done. Thing is, I'd probably have to go with the other game until then to satisfy my soccer-gaming hunger.

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    • ps3veron
      MVP
      • Aug 2008
      • 1220

      #257
      Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

      Oh and further to that: Even if I have a US version of the game and sign on to the UK/EU PSN, will it still lock me in to the US servers?

      Are the servers independent of the PSN region as well? Sorry if I am dragging y'all into a rabbit hole!

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      • ps3veron
        MVP
        • Aug 2008
        • 1220

        #258
        Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

        Originally posted by PeruvianPlaya954
        For me, this could be the difference between getting the game the first day it drops or maybe a few months down the road when OFs are done. Thing is, I'd probably have to go with the other game until then to satisfy my soccer-gaming hunger.
        Same here Peruvian! I am not even in the States at the moment (working in Africa) but OFs are not a concern anymore for me, its more the online and its user base.

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        • Ermolli
          MVP
          • Jul 2009
          • 3315

          #259
          Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

          I haven't won a match yet but I'm not mad at it, I'm still enjoying the game. Every game I have like 55-60 % of possesion but I shoot less than my opponent but I still lose, I'm having problems entering the box. Any tips?

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          • strive
            Rookie
            • Jul 2011
            • 110

            #260
            Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

            I assume if you play on PC you don't have to worry about region locks?
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            • PeruvianPlaya954
              MVP
              • Aug 2002
              • 1463

              #261
              Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

              Originally posted by ps3veron
              Ok but are there many people playing online on the US servers?

              I mean this is no madden or nba2k lol..

              Is it easy to find games?
              Anyone????

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              • ezio
                MVP
                • Jun 2003
                • 2853

                #262
                Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                Originally posted by PeruvianPlaya954
                Anyone????
                I had no problems finding games when I did play online.

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                • spartansocc12
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 238

                  #263
                  Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                  This game is great, BUT the computer still lacks the idea of keeping possession for the sake of keeping possession. For example, I was playing as rangers against Bayern and was able to keep the ball 65% of the time. Mind you this was on Top Player. This is simply unacceptable and unrealistic. Even if I was sitting on the ball, the computer should force me to pass into tight spaces until I lose the ball or find a scoring opportunity. Don't get me wrong the game is awesome, but this is still a glaring issue.

                  It will be very frustrating to play against Barcelona with a far inferior team only for me to keep possession for the majority of the time.

                  On top player this should NEVER happen.

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                  • slthree
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2529

                    #264
                    Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                    This is one of the smartest posts I've read in a long while. I felt this way too but didn't know how to express it.

                    Originally posted by spartansocc12
                    This game is great, BUT the computer still lacks the idea of keeping possession for the sake of keeping possession.

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                    • KG
                      Welcome Back
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 17583

                      #265
                      Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                      Originally posted by cookusu
                      Yah, I think a lot depends on the style you play if I attack too much I get my butt kicked because it leaves me open to the CPU, but I tend to like to play a possession style of game and if I am overmatched I set my style to more defensive, it is a different game than if I attack and have an offensive style. The CPU is not constantly attacking by any means, they do tend to keep moving forward but that does vary on game situation. That being said I always seem to have the edge in possession but I have had moments of frustration when the CPU has the lead and it gets late where they just play keep away with me. So in one sense I am kind of glad that the CPU doesn't control possession like it might be in a real game, because I could see it being very frustrating. I have definitely seen the CPU pass backwards and regroup but once again not as much as you would see in real life. I can understand why they would go with a little bit more of an aggressive CPU for most people it is going to make the game more exciting.

                      Also I seem to remember at least one gameplay patch last year, so hopefully they will address whatever issues arise, however in my view pretty solid game right now and they are never going to please everyone, and throw in skill level of the person and style of play and you could see where it would be difficult to please all.
                      I'm very guilty of making defensive substitutions yet not changing my tactics to reflect them.

                      Often I'll put on a player like Mikel and just expect him to automatically function as he would in real life.
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                      • cookusu
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1685

                        #266
                        Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                        Originally posted by KG
                        I'm very guilty of making defensive substitutions yet not changing my tactics to reflect them.

                        Often I'll put on a player like Mikel and just expect him to automatically function as he would in real life.
                        KG,

                        That is what I like best about this game over the years, especially in the Master League, I tend to pick an average to below average team and try to learn what they are good at and then start to add players where I feel I am weak and then add players that Match my style of play too. Learning your team and how to use them is more than half the fun for me, since I am not particularly quick with the controller.

                        Also just a note, when you play a season or a Master league season you get a much better feel for the game, because you have injuries, fatigue, ups and downs. Doesn't solve the possession % issue that others have mentioned but in the past has given me an better overall feel for how the game really plays.

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                        • RoyceDa59
                          Chillin
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 3830

                          #267
                          Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                          Originally posted by spartansocc12
                          This game is great, BUT the computer still lacks the idea of keeping possession for the sake of keeping possession. For example, I was playing as rangers against Bayern and was able to keep the ball 65% of the time. Mind you this was on Top Player. This is simply unacceptable and unrealistic. Even if I was sitting on the ball, the computer should force me to pass into tight spaces until I lose the ball or find a scoring opportunity. Don't get me wrong the game is awesome, but this is still a glaring issue.

                          It will be very frustrating to play against Barcelona with a far inferior team only for me to keep possession for the majority of the time.

                          On top player this should NEVER happen.
                          It is like you can't win with FIFA and PES demos. As I have been playing the heck out of both of them with the time extender and they give you completely different experiences of football/soccer.

                          In FIFA there is more of a struggle for possession but it is only because teammates give so much space that the CPU can just dink the ball around with ease and the fact that the CPU teams rarely complete bad touches or passes.

                          As for PES you win more of the possession due to teams always seeming like they are on the counter, they do build up play nicely but a little too quickly as like you said they don't hold possession for the sake of it. At this point it is just up to what you can deal with and what is more fun to you.
                          Last edited by RoyceDa59; 09-21-2011, 08:40 AM.

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                          • ps3veron
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1220

                            #268
                            Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                            Originally posted by ezio
                            I had no problems finding games when I did play online.
                            Thank you and..sold!

                            Peruvian lets do this man! October is too far and this is greatness!

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                            • Greene_Flash03
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2118

                              #269
                              Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                              Originally posted by RoyceDa59
                              It is like you can't win with FIFA and PES demos. As I have been playing the heck out of both of them with the time extender and they give you completely different experiences of football/soccer.

                              In FIFA there is more of a struggle for possession but it is only because teammates give so much space that the CPU can just dink the ball around with ease and the fact that the CPU teams rarely complete bad touches or passes.

                              As for PES you win more of the possession due to teams always seeming line they are on the counter, they do build up play nicely but a little too quickly as like you said they don't hold possession for the sake of it. At this point it is just up to what you can deal with and what is more fun to you.
                              It's funny how things work eh? I like the fact in PES that CPU make mistakes on passes, that they aren't 99% accurate in all passes. However, it also feels at times that you want for the CPU to have a decent about time having the ball on their side too. I think the advantage here goes to FIFA, just because you can alter their passing success with slider.

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                              • PeruvianPlaya954
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 1463

                                #270
                                Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                                Originally posted by ps3veron
                                Thank you and..sold!

                                Peruvian lets do this man! October is too far and this is greatness!
                                Let me know when you're ready. 8)

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