(PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

[Mrgavro5]

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Hello!I wanna know how can I edit this settings on the Ps3?Thanks!

[Matt10]

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Well, I got the PC version now and I gotta commend you Matt. To be honest, I didn't share the view that the competition is the last resort (the defense in that game is ugh), but I agree that base gameplay is far from perfect. Your settings make it a lot better and I think with more testing you will find a sweet spot very easily.

Few questions:

-What option file are you using?

-For ML, is it advisable to set the maximum value to "0" or "100" so that it does not increase over the years or with new prospects being created? That way we can ensure that they all remain at these levels no matter what.

-What gameplay settings are you using?

Thanks.

Hey DT. I think the core game play is on a good track. In PES 12, the main thing that noone could fix - even yair and nesa - was how far back the defenders dropped into the box - they would follow their man all the way into the box.

Now, pressure is there and the drop back isn't as severe. Combined with the settings - it all works out.

I'm using the PESEDIT patch, so their OF.

As a max value, I would say 0 or 1; players can still decrease from 100 - and I'd hate for it to go lower. Granted, I don't think it will be a problem - as the main factors edited are the team strategies/styles. So that helps. I know even when I let the CPU take over my game plan, the strategy/tactics remain edited.

Game play, I'm currently at 15 mins, Top Player, all manual, except shootnig and tackling assist set to "hard", also clearance to auto. I don't want this to be FIFA where I have to control all 11 players - so having the settings with tackling and clearance, makes the CPU complete obvious tasks.

Hello!I wanna know how can I edit this settings on the Ps3?Thanks!

I wish I knew for you console guys.I'm sure there is a way - just have to research.

[El Niche]

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cant wait to try the new numbers matt. Im sure this editing tool can really improve the game. I saw a lot of options, but as you said maybe its better to make subtle changes. After you make changes, please update your first post. I will try lowering the pressure too. Will just start from my unedited backup BIN file.

Thanks

[Matt10]

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cant wait to try the new numbers matt. Im sure this editing tool can really improve the game. I saw a lot of options, but as you said maybe its better to make subtle changes. After you make changes, please update your first post. I will try lowering the pressure too. Will just start from my unedited backup BIN file.

Thanks

Yes, plenty of options. IF you see my link to soccergaming forums - back when I first discovered global editing towards game play - there were a lot of values I tried.

Thankfully, PES now has team strategies to determine game play. It helped a whole bunch.

I updated the first page as well.

[SAJ323]

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Will this work with consoles to as a option file or is it strictly for CPU?

[El Niche]

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Will this work with consoles to as a option file or is it strictly for CPU?

As far as I know it is for PC as you have to edit a BIN file. As far as an option file for a PS3 or XBox I don't think so.

[Matt10]

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As far as I know it is for PC as you have to edit a BIN file. As far as an option file for a PS3 or XBox I don't think so.

Actually, all that is being edited is the option file - it just so happens it's a bin file to be compatible with PES13 editor.

If you want to put in the work - since I'm not sure consoles have an editor...you can manually input the settings since it is just tactics. In the game, go to edit then team, then game plan. Then you would just increase the said tactics to 100 or in the manual case = Max of their settings till the slider doesn't go farther.

As far as the individual attack value - that is where it will get most tedious unfortunately.

I remember spending an entire week with PES4 just editing player calves, lol. I felt that they were way too big and proportioned made the shoes look bigger than the ball at times. Turns out the issue was LOD (level of detail) - which in PES4/PES5 LOD wasn't created by kitserver's Juce yet (PC).

Probably too much info - but that's what I would do.

[Tomba]

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Actually, all that is being edited is the option file - it just so happens it's a bin file to be compatible with PES13 editor.

If you want to put in the work - since I'm not sure consoles have an editor...you can manually input the settings since it is just tactics. In the game, go to edit then team, then game plan. Then you would just increase the said tactics to 100 or in the manual case = Max of their settings till the slider doesn't go farther.

As far as the individual attack value - that is where it will get most tedious unfortunately.

I remember spending an entire week with PES4 just editing player calves, lol. I felt that they were way too big and proportioned made the shoes look bigger than the ball at times. Turns out the issue was LOD (level of detail) - which in PES4/PES5 LOD wasn't created by kitserver's Juce yet (PC).

Probably too much info - but that's what I would do.

You rock Matt10 Bro im going to do this for all teams for folks on 360

[Tomba]

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Matt10, just tried

ABSOLUTELY MARVELOUS!

Only thing is though theres

Player support,support range that are made into a default

On consoles they are intervals of 20 so with your setting being for 100 i made 20 or 0 respectively for the ones you mentinioned that ARE in

1. Pressing (All Teams) to 100
2. Compactness (All Teams) to 100 ( = Wide )
3. Attack (All Players) to value of "0"
4. Defensive Line to value of "100" ( = High)

defensive awareness? is not i think

so basically a team is set this way on console

Formation - which id leave alone for all teams depending
tactic-would have to be set to stabdard to allow manipulation of the below settings

Player Support - ?
Support range -?
Positions switch - ?
Offensive style -? Or is that "attack"? if so i set that to 0(zero)
Pressing -20
Defensive Line -20
Compactness- 20

NOT trying to hijack your thread but for us on consoles and seeing what it does for you and after trying I'm impressed and want to see if us console users can have the same fun

[Matt10]

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Matt10, just tried

ABSOLUTELY MARVELOUS!

Only thing is though theres

Player support,support range that are made into a default

On consoles they are intervals of 20 so with your setting being for 100 i made 20 or 0 respectively for the ones you mentinioned that ARE in

1. Pressing (All Teams) to 100
2. Compactness (All Teams) to 100 ( = Wide )
3. Attack (All Players) to value of "0"
4. Defensive Line to value of "100" ( = High)

defensive awareness? is not i think

so basically a team is set this way on console

Formation - which id leave alone for all teams depending
tactic-would have to be set to stabdard to allow manipulation of the below settings

Player Support - ?
Support range -?
Positions switch - ?
Offensive style -? Or is that "attack"? if so i set that to 0(zero)
Pressing -20
Defensive Line -20
Compactness- 20

NOT trying to hijack your thread but for us on consoles and seeing what it does for you and after trying I'm impressed and want to see if us console users can have the same fun

Yes, make sure to find a solid OF that everyone would want to use for your consoles

20 or 0 respectively, correct.

No defensive awareness since that was an early test that failed.

You are correct so far up to the "ATTACK". That is the ONE value that is for EACH individual player to be edited. This is the beauty of the editor for PC, and unfortunate for consoles. You have to manually place a "1" on the players ATTACK value.

So for me, within the editor, all players value for ATTACK will look like this:



I need to update the first page and change the 0 to a 1 since it's just one of those values.

No worries about hijacking, Tomba. This is a significant change to the game play - and console players should have the same experience that I am - and us PC guys are.

[Tomba]

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Thank you again Matt10

[El Niche]

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Have been testing matt with your settings and so far so good. Thanks! Its sometimes hard to see if its working because every game is different, but now im testing always with the same teams. I have my attack at 1 so in team select all of the teams have a rating of "E". Also Matt, make sure when you edit your original post instructions you have pressing to "0" instead of 100

Will keep testing, and yes dammit will have to restart my ML.

[Matt10]

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Have been testing matt with your settings and so far so good. Thanks! Its sometimes hard to see if its working because every game is different, but now im testing always with the same teams. I have my attack at 1 so in team select all of the teams have a rating of "E". Also Matt, make sure when you edit your original post instructions you have pressing to "0" instead of 100

Will keep testing, and yes dammit will have to restart my ML.

Yeah I have a strong mix of games. I like that I can still build up and not feel bad about hogging possession for unrealistic stats. The CPU pressures accordingly, which is good, forcing me to take different approaches each game.

Sorry to hear about your ML - I knew it would happen though

Pressing will be @ 100, shouldn't be "0" lol.

[Tomba]

Re: (PC) Welp - I have done it again. Realistic Game Play.

Have been testing matt with your settings and so far so good. Thanks! Its sometimes hard to see if its working because every game is different, but now im testing always with the same teams. I have my attack at 1 so in team select all of the teams have a rating of "E". Also Matt, make sure when you edit your original post instructions you have pressing to "0" instead of 100

Will keep testing, and yes dammit will have to restart my ML.

thats the beauty the tactics do not overally affect team individuality JUST smarter play

[HKPound]

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Wow this looks great. I played Fifa last year and was addicted for some time. However, the exaggerated physics and gameplay just became too much as I've started to develop a love and understanding of the game. Definitely made deciding between PES and FIFA this year a bit more difficult.