PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

[Qb]

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Played a handful of Arsenal/Atletico matches last night. This is the best feeling PES I've played in a long time. I really enjoyed the support/movement of my teammates; they find nice pockets of space to be available for passes. Ozil had by far the most touches on my team and always seemed to be open (in a good way). I LOVE how crosses feel - the have some zip and curl to them, not floaty at all. I scored a couple headed goals with Giroud and they looked great, aside from having acres of space out wide to hit the cross.

So I guess I'm seeing the retreating fullbacks issue too, but overall I feel like defensive positioning is fairly solid. Men get behind the ball and it doesn't feel like always scrambling to catch up. I agree the passing is a bit too assisted (I was on level 1), but it doesn't seem to unbalance the gameplay since the defense is fairly sound. Also agree that body position doesn't affect passing/shooting enough, especially shooting. I unleashed a wicked low shot with Giroud after a quick turn and it didn't look believable.

Keepers seem better, but I didn't test the CPU too much as I get the hang of things. Cech made a really nice diving save, but I also saw some of the stiff and awkward animations too. But I'll accept some awkwardness if they're competent, which first impression is they will be.

Like how the crowd howls & whistles on borderline challenges and reacts to play. It's probably more noticeable since there's no commentary, but still seems well done nonetheless. Player likenesses are pretty impressive; it's such a shame they can't get more robust licensing because it is a good looking game.

Overall, the demo took this from not much interest to possible purchase. For someone who doesn't buy many games, that's saying something. I'll keep an eye on option file progress and gameplay impressions with a hopeful eye towards Black Friday...

[DBMcGee3]

Got in about 6 games last night (Top Player, 10 minutes) and all I can say is.....WOW. I'm no expert in football strategy, so I won't dismiss the complaints others have made, but here were my impressions.

-Goalkeepers are vastly improved, as is the defensive AI. I didn't find nearly as much space as in last year's game, and there were constantly guys sliding at my feet when I shot. When I actually got shots off, the keepers were solid, probably the best I've seen in a game yet. End result, the scoring was way down from last year's game, which is awesome if you want to play 15 or 20 minute games. The goals feel earned this year, you can't just score every time you shoot from inside the box.

-Refs- Holy S#%@!!!!!! They are calling fouls appropriately, and giving cards! I played one match as Barca vs. Atletico, and they were flat out bullying me. I think they had about 8 fouls and 4 or 5 yellows in 10 minutes, and it doesn't take a horrible tackle to get a foul, sometimes a hard bump is enough, which is great. Game changer, plain and simple. I'm shocked they were able to improve this so much in 1 offseason.

-Animations- The game looks soooooo good. There are so many shooting and passing animations, and they've finally got the collisions figured out. I honestly think the collisions in PES look more realistic than FIFA's now, which I never thought I'd say. Replays are done well, goal celebrations look amazing, it's eye candy from start to finish. Best player models I've ever seen, on the good teams at least. The less known players can still look a little jarring by comparison though.

-Signature play- This is where PES always kills FIFA, and this year is no exception from what I've seen. The players just feel like themselves. Messi is so fast and strong with the ball, Pogba dominates the midfield with his size and athleticism, Ozil makes perfect lobs and through balls......it's fantastic, really. Can't wait to get an option file with the tactics refined even further.

-The Pace- Feels perfect to me. The players look great when they're moving, and the pace of the ball seems right on, both with passing and shooting. I've struck some absolute corkers from outside the box but haven't found my mark just yet.

-First Touch- Huge improvement, really adds to the realism and keeps the passing %s more realistic. In most of my games the %s were high 70s/low 80s rather than 90s, like PES 2016 or FIFA (every year). Another way the great players just feel different from the rest. Also these animations are particularly beautiful.

I'm sure I'll find some flaws eventually, but I can honestly say that last night was the best hour and a half I've ever spent with ANY sports video game. It's that good, believe the hype.

[Battle4MY]

Re: PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

Yup, there is. Had this happen:


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Fouls have improved for sure but I feel this video is poor example. In the first 30 seconds there are bunch of no calls.

[Money99]

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Really enjoying the demo.
I'm trying to decide between FIFA or this one.
Anyone give me an idea of how different the career modes are between the two?
I know FIFA has more of the players/teams but PES has the Champions League.

But what about options? Can I be fired as a manager in PES? Can I manage international teams?

[KG]

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Yup, there is. Had this happen:


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Loved the stepover Koke gave you to create space to fire in the cross.

I've noticed that vs Messi, Sanchez, etc... that I've had to square up and call for help and/or try to force them to the touchline.

[RoyceDa59]

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Loved the stepover Koke gave you to create space to fire in the cross.

I've noticed that vs Messi, Sanchez, etc... that I've had to square up and call for help and/or try to force them to the touchline.

They really made player ID stand out this year, also love how much flair they added to the game. It is just enough to the point it doesn't feel overdone.

[nunogomes]

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Can´t remember a game having this kind of reception here on the demo. Really looking forward to test it later today.

P.s. - a few pages back there is a .gif of a bycicle kick goal, i play PES since ISS and i only scored 2 bycicle kick goals in all of these years, but that one posted here was the best i´ve ever seen.

[KG]

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As a Chelsea fan it PAINS me to say this but Ozil is just class in PES 17. His touches, flicks with the outside of the boot, and just in-general left-footedness is spot on.

Also cool to see the CPU sub on an attacking player down 0-1. Pulled Kante for Cabaye trying to chase the result.

I wish Liverpool was on the demo so we could see the Gegenpress.

[PAPERNUT]

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Still not satisfied with the refs and foul calls, but it is about the same with FIFA in that regard now, so not much of a choice to get anything better. I am impressed mostly with the aerial game and hold up play. Player movement and like others have mentioned, the player ID as each individual plays different. This is the closest the game has played to the old days, so I am thinking of making the switch back. If only the PC version was not jacked up, I would hands down make the switch today.

[KG]

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Still not satisfied with the refs and foul calls, but it is about the same with FIFA in that regard now, so not much of a choice to get anything better. I am impressed mostly with the aerial game and hold up play. Player movement and like others have mentioned, the player ID as each individual plays different. This is the closest the game has played to the old days, so I am thinking of making the switch back. If only the PC version was not jacked up, I would hands down make the switch today.

There's some matches where there a good amount of fouls called and others where it's missing. I think the issue is a combination of too much space (caused by quick interchanges & possibly formations), aggression levels, and players not being close enough to foul.

I have noticed that when the computer is trailing they become more aggressive resulting in more risky tackles.

Hopefully fouls can be fully sorted (they're still 10x better than '16) but there could be some built-in logic for rivalry matches as well as some ratings/badges/traits at play. I have to dig a little deeper.

[orion523]

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Played about 10 or so games today, same settings as Matt posted on his video. Kinda have mixed feelings, as I have for the last several years with PES. Fundamentally the game feels just as it has for years. Barely there physics, clumsy replay system, PS1 style menus, overly complicated control scheme, yet despite all that, it's got the fun factor. From a sim perspective, there are definitely issues, the biggest of which pertains to space and the cheapness of it. It's simply too easy to move through two thirds of the pitch. Fouls are better, but still not up to par. Keepers much better, no real complaints. I know I'm all over here, but all boiled down it comes to this. If you are a fan of the series and are willing to accept the limitations when it comes to leagues, licenses, editing, and the rest then you will love 17. If not, then there's nothing here to change your mind.

[RoyceDa59]

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Still not satisfied with the refs and foul calls, but it is about the same with FIFA in that regard now, so not much of a choice to get anything better. I am impressed mostly with the aerial game and hold up play. Player movement and like others have mentioned, the player ID as each individual plays different. This is the closest the game has played to the old days, so I am thinking of making the switch back. If only the PC version was not jacked up, I would hands down make the switch today.

I think they are good probably how it was on PES 6 now. Although I do feel like some refs are more lenient than others (still have to test this), first game I played I saw 10 fouls committed (not including offsides). Overall I am pleased, the jury is still out there on how Adaptive AI transfers over to Tournaments and Master League.

[Matt10]

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Seriously, this game is so close. There needs to be a transition from Attack to Defense, not just an immediate ATTACK! and then DEFEND! Watch the video for an explanation:

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[Matt10]

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Great stuff, Matt. That hot and cold, binary attacking / defending stuck out immediately. Love the physics, especially the ball, but what's up with the skiing animation when players are face up dribbling? It looks silly because virtually every player on the pitch does it. It almost looks like a dribbling drill with cones.


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Mean to respond to you, yesterday, man. Yeah - physics on the ball are much better, and pretty much most on the ball elements are positive. As always though, especially in these soccer games, it's all about positioning. See my video above that goes over the cause and effect.

[BL8001]

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If you want an eye opener go play FIFA 16.

I just played 2 Fifa 16 matches with default settings, then fired up PES and played 2 matches with default settings.

The way everything goes down is just so much more balanced and fair. If you play chill, the PES AI can score on you on regular, if you play aggressively you need to move up the difficulty.

But to have an AI who is both adventurous and threatening even on the FIFA equivalent of pro is outstanding.

Me as Boca vs River ends 2-2. They go up 1-0, I clamp down and equalize with Tevez, then just a bit later go ahead with a wonderful Tevez goal. CPU claws back and ties up 2-2. None of this feels cheap or exploitative. I am not trying to go into a certain area where automatic goals happen or watch the CPU D being gifted generous miracles to keep me from scoring.

I will have the vid up in this post soon. Stupid xbox one DVR missed my 2nd tevez goal. I wish the xbox one had the recording logic of PS4 to actually start your 5 minutes from when the last 5 minutes ended.

I really hope the FIFA 17 demo is as good as the PES demo. Having 2 great games would be outstanding.