PES 2017 Demo Available on Xbox One, PS4, PS3 - Post Your Impressions

[Hunkerdown]

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Unfortunately I am on xbox , so will probably have to stick to FIFA, which is fun for me, still playing 16. Microsoft not allowing the same options that PS4 version has, is a big thing for me. Also definitely looks way worse on xbox than PS4. Gamewise it is definitely better than previous versions. Unless FIFA 17 is an entire mess, it is fun for me with right settings, do not see enough in PES to make switch, thanks Micorsoft!!

[nunogomes]

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So glad to hear your thoughts, Nuno. It's weird hearing you go into detail on the feel of matches as you are usually provide a skeptical analysis, I have to get used to this

Regarding the Attack/Defend, it's getting its shares on Twitter. I made it that very short video so it can illustrate the simplicity of the fix. I too believe it can be fixed with fluid formations off, or even some of the other advanced tactics set to on. I think there will be some "grunt work" at the beginning to edit each team if it isn't fixed. One comment I received on the YouTube video was that this is the demo and it could be playing with that mentality because the demo is limited in its tactics. Each team does not have their full capabilities enabled yet.

I hope that's the case, so I definitely am still optimistic. This game is so good, even if the att/def is not fixed, it will be worth it ,on feel alone, to dedicate hours on finding a remedy.

Yes, you are right, im usually very skeptical, even i was surprised by the quality of the demo. But im not skeptical by principle (in games), it´s just that im a bit baffled by the way this industry is taking: all focus on dlc´s and graphics and little features with no use, that the most fundamental things in a game get overlooked (the desire to play more, the feeling of freedom in sports games, for example) and we always end up with games that could have been great but they are not.

Now, i am a bit more skeptical in Konami fixing this attack/defend mentality (and the lag cheat also, although i stopped being an online player in PES since 11) but i do not feel it will break the game if it´s not fixed and i will gladly put the hours to fix the tactics if that´s the case.

On another note, i also read in a portuguese forum that it´s possible to play online with the demo? Is that true? If it is we could play a few matches her with the OS people. Im "nngomespt" on PS4 if this happens to be true and someone want´s to play.

Unfortunately I am on xbox , so will probably have to stick to FIFA, which is fun for me, still playing 16. Microsoft not allowing the same options that PS4 version has, is a big thing for me. Also definitely looks way worse on xbox than PS4. Gamewuse it is definitely better than previous versions. Unless FIFA 17 is an entire mess, it is fun for me with right settings, do not see enough in PES to make switch, thanks Micorsoft!!

This seems to be a very common complaint from xbox owners, about the graphics, and it definitely sucks. I remember that when i changed from PS3 to Xbox i had the opposite feeling in multi platform games, they used to look better in Xbox, less jaggies. Guess that´s not the case here.

[nunogomes]

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About the online play in the demo, i saw the video (a spanish one) and it seems to work with the Play Share feature on PS4.

Here is the link if someone want´s to see it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTTmwRwpHRk#t=281

Only the first 5 minutes matter, the rest are those two guys playing

[Matt10]

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Yeah, further supports my possible intent to trade my XB1 for a PS4.

[RoyceDa59]

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After being on the forum for years I don't think I ever seen such a glowing response for PES since when they first introduce the Be a Legend mode for Pes 09, it is weird haha. I really hope Konami don't mess this up because they have something truly special here.

But what definitely kept me playing well past a reasonable hour for someone who works in the next morning was the feeling that everything felt "random" (in a lack of a better word), the CPU plays with a purpose, they actually shoot from places you wouldn´t expect if they have no other options, and sometimes even if they do (the randomness factor)! You feel threatened when the CPU attacks, not bored, you feel in awe when CPU fools you with a play you weren´t expecting, it´s refreshening.

It truly is something special to see the CPU take shots that only another Human player have the audacity of pulling off. I will have to post the video later tonight of Fernando Gago attempting a shot from barely beyond the half way line with Cech a little off his line, it was so random.

[nunogomes]

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Just a little information, relevant to tactics:

In the demo, you can´t move each player individually as you always could in PES, but in the full game this feature will be present.

[BrianFifaFan]

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I really enjoy this demo. I can't play any other older soccer/futbol game I own anymore. No point. They just are nowhere near as fun as this game is.

Took matt's advice and played flamengo.

I feel like the result was pretty much what it should be. Rain effects and what they did to gameplay were excellent. Made everything more sloppy.

Only wtf was I brutally slid tackled a dude in the box right after he shot. He goes down and grasps his ankle. No pk for them. But then I make a crunching illegal tackle in the 2nd half and pick up a delayed yellow. Took several game minutes to have it served and it almost seemed connected to the offending player being called offside.


Atletico v flamengo 1st half
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2nd half
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These videos just sold me. As long as the PC version has the same graphics and gameplay, I must own this game. Not worried about missing features. This game is the return of PES to the throne.

[Qb]

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But the funny thing is, playing the game, i don´t feel this issue unless im thinking of it before it happens.

I know what you mean. When I played Arsenal/Atletico the other night, I often found myself thinking, "Man, they always have men behind the ball! Oh well, guess that's Simeone's team for you..." Then when I saw Matt's video it kind of clicked that something was off that I couldn't put my finger on the night before.

Personally, if it's more of an either/or, I find a game where the final third is more compact more compelling than one where if you break through midfield you're in behind the defense (speaking in very general terms). For instance, I started playing FIFA with a low line height and length (30/40) because I don't find much enjoyment in the majority of the game being a scramble at the back with attackers running at the defensive line.

Of course, ideally the balance is there where teams sensibly and tactically defend high or deep based on team style and game situation. And the automatic sprinting back isn't the right way for teams to get back, so obviously that should be sorted, too.

Just a little information, relevant to tactics:

In the demo, you can´t move each player individually as you always could in PES, but in the full game this feature will be present.

At first I thought I was just that dumb, but it seems like a lot of tactics options are unavailable. I can't even figure out how to change my formation.

[RoyceDa59]

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These videos just sold me. As long as the PC version has the same graphics and gameplay, I must own this game. Not worried about missing features. This game is the return of PES to the throne.

It was really cool seeing Torres getting called for a foul while going for an attempted header.

[ezio]

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Was wondering when you were going to post some impressions. Pes impression thread isn't complete until you, Ezio, and LingeringRegime post haha.

Royce,

Thanks for the shout out I will post my impressions soon.

[BSDShoes]

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These videos just sold me. As long as the PC version has the same graphics and gameplay, I must own this game. Not worried about missing features. This game is the return of PES to the throne.

PC version will pretty much get the same gameplay, but graphics will be a downgrade compared to console versions.

[BL8001]

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Can someone please help me with the controls?

How do you do a bicycle kick or header? Say there's a corner kick into near the goal post and I wanna perform a header or something fancy?

In FIFA I recall you hold L2/LT then press the shoot button.

Thanks!

I have special remapped to LT. so holding this while shooting has caused volleys to happen. I need to flick the ball up with R3 and then hold LT and shoot and see if a bicycle occurs.

Cannot wait for the full game and match practice to sort out some of the controls better.

[BL8001]

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Ok I am living somewhere between Top Player and Pro difficulty.

For these vids I moved it to pro.

Here are my reasons;
1 I like a little more time on the ball
2 I try to play defense by allowing the cpu time too not videogame style of getting up in everyone's grill all the time
3 Because the CPU is good now and not cheaty at all from my experience so far it's ok if they shoot. Like point 2 in previous footy games if you allowed the CPU to shoot they scored.
4 To me this allows me to create and the cpu to create while still being a relaxing enjoyable game to play

After beating flamengo with atletico I felt it only fair (I actually feel compassion for the AI ) to take on a a top team with flamengo.

A loss is just as fun as a win in this demo. Season and master league is going to be a blast this year.

1st half
highlights
0:40 flamengo counter attack
1:08 sanchez lets one fly
2:30 awesome cech save
4:08 killer ox drag back and go
4:18 coq having a go
5:15 lethal fk swung in and cheeky finish after my mishandle
7:09 great flamengo play and yet another wonderful cech save
8:00 finally convincing myself shield is RT not LT
8:56 great arsenal play and my keeper did not need to make that save I think, but I get it. It was close, he didn't realize it was outside of the post
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2nd Half
0:48 nice spell of play
1:40 coq again fires one off from range
2:06 great RT shielding!
2:25 love this arsenal field swap that didn't come off
2:35 that cut should have worked, great defending, I got frustrated and yeah, carded
3:35 bend but don't break, sweet goal line clearing header
4:15 having a go
4:39 I love how this goal starts with Cech's kick
4:57 why didn't I clear it? I don't know. Lesson learned.
5:30 calm and cool pk
6:45 just can't break down the arsenal defense, this is the best we have
7:03 jaw drops...what a roll back pass...can I please do that?
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I love love love love love how when I picked up the yellow in the box the player walked away, I personally felt like I got all ball and it was a great tackle, but I can also see how a ref would totally call that a pk, my player was like get away from me with that nonsense.

[Gnemi]

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I played the PES 16 demo for exactly three minutes, then uninstalled it.

Last night, I played PES 17 for almost two hours before my wife got pissed. Otherwise, I would have played longer.

The presentation is vastly inferior to FIFA and having no commentator makes the atmosphere feel somewhat lifeless, yet...the actual 22 on the pitch make the game feel incredibly alive, bristling with energy and gravitas.

Electronic Arts have officially been put on notice by Konami. I was really enjoying my last FIFA 16 career season but don't even want to play it now. FIFA 17 will have to really impress me with its gameplay, particularly ball physics, for me to bother with it.

My single most favorite aspects of PES 17 so far: when I swap wings with a lofted cross, the ball actually moves with pace and curve instead of a giant lofted beach ball pass. When a keeper or defender deflects the ball, it looks like it actually made an impact on the player instead of looking like it hit a brick.

Admittedly, I haven't even looked at the FIFA 17 gameplay videos because pre-release videos are typically trash.

This is also the first time since PES 11 that I'm intrigued to give Konami a shot.

[nunogomes]

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I played the PES 16 demo for exactly three minutes, then uninstalled it.

Last night, I played PES 17 for almost two hours before my wife got pissed. Otherwise, I would have played longer.

The presentation is vastly inferior to FIFA and having no commentator makes the atmosphere feel somewhat lifeless, yet...the actual 22 on the pitch make the game feel incredibly alive, bristling with energy and gravitas.

Electronic Arts have officially been put on notice by Konami. I was really enjoying my last FIFA 16 career season but don't even want to play it now. FIFA 17 will have to really impress me with its gameplay, particularly ball physics, for me to bother with it.

My single most favorite aspects of PES 17 so far: when I swap wings with a lofted cross, the ball actually moves with pace and curve instead of a giant lofted beach ball pass. When a keeper or defender deflects the ball, it looks like it actually made an impact on the player instead of looking like it hit a brick.

Admittedly, I haven't even looked at the FIFA 17 gameplay videos because pre-release videos are typically trash.

This is also the first time since PES 11 that I'm intrigued to give Konami a shot.

Don´t expect much in the commentary department, it´s probably very similar to last year and it was only passable last year.

FIFA is miles ahead on that aspect.

But the gameplay really makes up for it.