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  • Gnemi
    Rookie
    • Jan 2012
    • 1519

    #361
    Re: PES 2017 Tactics

    Hey Klashman / Krebstar / Papinho / Royce:

    We really need to revisit the formation and tactics for Liverpool to account for the fact that Sturridge has lost his place in the team.

    It's hard for me to account for Klashman's tactics because I don't think Liverpool are playing with an outright centre forward at the moment, are they? It's not quite false 9 with Firmino because he's out on the left?

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    • papinho81
      Pro
      • Feb 2015
      • 673

      #362
      Re: PES 2017 Tactics

      Originally posted by Gnemi
      Hey Klashman / Krebstar / Papinho / Royce:

      We really need to revisit the formation and tactics for Liverpool to account for the fact that Sturridge has lost his place in the team.

      It's hard for me to account for Klashman's tactics because I don't think Liverpool are playing with an outright centre forward at the moment, are they? It's not quite false 9 with Firmino because he's out on the left?
      Hey Gnemi, why not trying yourself?!

      Edit: I am not saying that with the meaning: get lost (hope it doesn't sound like that), but be part of editing, the more people working on tactics, the faster we can start ML with proper tactic for many teams!
      Last edited by papinho81; 10-28-2016, 11:31 AM.

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      • Fonsa1990
        Rookie
        • Feb 2016
        • 28

        #363
        Re: PES 2017 Tactics

        Hey guys! First of all, thank you for all your nice work! Does anyone know where I can find some good Serie A tactics?

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        • DirtyCobra
          Pro
          • Mar 2009
          • 620

          #364
          Re: PES 2017 Tactics

          Originally posted by Fonsa1990
          Hey guys! First of all, thank you for all your nice work! Does anyone know where I can find some good Serie A tactics?

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          Hi Fonsa,

          Go the the very first page of this thread. There is a link to a spreadsheet with Serie A tactics, along with many other leagues. They guys in this thread did an amazing job.

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          • Fonsa1990
            Rookie
            • Feb 2016
            • 28

            #365
            Re: PES 2017 Tactics

            Originally posted by DirtyCobra
            Hi Fonsa,

            Go the the very first page of this thread. There is a link to a spreadsheet with Serie A tactics, along with many other leagues. They guys in this thread did an amazing job.
            Yeah, I know. But it's not complete at all. For example, there are no tactics even for Juventus. [emoji13]

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            • DirtyCobra
              Pro
              • Mar 2009
              • 620

              #366
              Re: PES 2017 Tactics

              Originally posted by Fonsa1990
              Yeah, I know. But it's not complete at all. For example, there are no tactics even for Juventus. [emoji13]

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              Check thread #230 on page 29, Juventus tactics are there.

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              • Fonsa1990
                Rookie
                • Feb 2016
                • 28

                #367
                Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                Originally posted by DirtyCobra
                Check thread #230 on page 29, Juventus tactics are there.
                Thank you! But do you know where I can find the whole Serie A? Anyone in this thread that does the tactics for Italy?

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                • RoyceDa59
                  Chillin
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 3830

                  #368
                  Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                  I need to post some updates for Serie A teams today via video upload. I ended up switching I Insigne and Callejon to SS "In Possession" and have Only Callejon dropping back as a SMF when out of Possession. Still have Inter and AS Roma tactics I want to post as well.

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                  • Fonsa1990
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 28

                    #369
                    Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                    Originally posted by RoyceDa59
                    I need to post some updates for Serie A teams today via video upload. I ended up switching I Insigne and Callejon to SS "In Possession" and have Only Callejon dropping back as a SMF when out of Possession. Still have Inter and AS Roma tactics I want to post as well.
                    Cool man! Thanks!

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                    • jmel07
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 185

                      #370
                      Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                      Is there a reason Konami doesn't build this database themselves and give each team custom tactics? If they go to the trouble to assign anything at all, they might as well have a default to save the community some time.

                      I'm completely tactic illiterate, never played myself, but I enjoy PES games and this just seems like a no brainer.

                      I know a poster early in this thread mentioned giving/getting some feedback from someone on the dev team, but I didn't see another comment on the topic (admittedly I skimmed as quickly as I could through the 50 pages of posts).

                      Thanks for all the banter.



                      Originally posted by Gnemi
                      I'm following this thread like crazy and I can't WAIT until the following things come true:

                      1. 100% complete tactics for EPL clubs: CHECK
                      2. 100% complete tactics for Champions League clubs: not quite, still need a lot of Serie A, Bundesliga, and LaLiga clubs
                      3. 100% complete tactics for all Europa League clubs: long way to go

                      I'd also like to have complete tactics eventually for all Serie A and Bundesliga clubs, but I'll be patient.

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                      • Gnemi
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1519

                        #371
                        PES 2017 Tactics

                        I will say this: if there was one thing I would change about PES, it would be to allow changes to tactics for existing ML / BAL saves. It really sucks to be stuck with one set of CPU tactics and instructions for an entire career.


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                        Last edited by Gnemi; 10-28-2016, 07:39 PM.

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                        • elprez98
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 4237

                          #372
                          Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                          Originally posted by Gnemi
                          I will say this: if there was one thing I would change about PES, it would be to allow changes to tactics for existing ML / BAL saves. It really sucks to be stuck with one set of CPU tactics and instructions for an entire career.


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                          Yea it should be tied to managers instead of teams.
                          Originally posted by My Wife
                          "The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."

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                          • RoyceDa59
                            Chillin
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 3830

                            #373
                            Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                            Originally posted by elprez98
                            Yea it should be tied to managers instead of teams.
                            I love the idea of giving managers at least 2/3 different tactical formations they can switch between. They already have that idea in MyClub they just need to bring it over to the offline experience. Someone needs to bring this up with Konami!

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                            • papinho81
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 673

                              #374
                              Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                              Tactics assigned to managers sounds like a great idea.
                              I have not started a proper ML yet, but do you know guys if there is managers turn over in the course of a ML?

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                              • papinho81
                                Pro
                                • Feb 2015
                                • 673

                                #375
                                Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                                I am working on La Liga tactics, integrating the tactics Royce have already done (I don't want to reinvent the wheel). I have modified Barca tactic and formation to a point I am very happy with (post patch effect also may be). Interestingly, I have removed the "make mazing runs" attribute to Messi when the cpu controls it. It seems none solely to have improved Messi way of playing (is not dribbling and loosing the ball like a nuts anymore) but also is teammates. Tikitaka is alive.



                                This picture is from a CPU vs CPU game (not the end of the game I concede). I am using Bilbao in a coach mode with Royce tactic implemented.
                                Look at the possession and the passing accuracy for the Barca.

                                I will certainly make a video with la Liga tactic but in case you want the Barca tactic before I will post pictures and instructions tomorrow.

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