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  • Krebstar
    is looking at stats.
    • May 2005
    • 12904

    #121
    Re: PES 2017 Tactics

    Chelsea has been added to the spreadsheet, and I've also started to map out generic tactics.

    I'm having a hard time getting a Liverpool tactic to work. The Gegenpress works best if you have three forwards set to attacking roles while out of possession, but the issue is they then will not track back to continue to press.

    They also just won't press sometimes and absorb pressure—I think what I got earlier will have to be as good as it gets. Press once the ball is lost, but if the opposition advances with possession they retreat a bit and defend.

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    • Josam27o7
      Pro
      • Sep 2009
      • 605

      #122
      Re: PES 2017 Tactics

      Originally posted by Krebstar
      But I have a big question—if you have two controllers, can you set your opponents gameplan in ML?
      This question is so crucial you should start a thread on it to get the info ASAP....

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      • Valisen
        Rookie
        • Sep 2014
        • 76

        #123
        Re: PES 2017 Tactics

        Originally posted by Josam27o7
        This question is so crucial you should start a thread on it to get the info ASAP....


        Give me an hour and I'll report back and let you all know if this works or not.


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        • Valisen
          Rookie
          • Sep 2014
          • 76

          #124
          PES 2017 Tactics

          Doesn't look like this works. Tried a couple different things with a second controller and it would only let me go to whichever controller 1s team was. So co-op. Unless I'm missing something there was no way to change tactics for opponent with 2nd controller. Looks like that will all have to be done in editing.


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          • Gnemi
            Rookie
            • Jan 2012
            • 1519

            #125
            Re: PES 2017 Tactics

            Originally posted by Valisen
            Doesn't look like this works. Tried a couple different things with a second controller and it would only let me go to whichever controller 1s team was. So co-op. Unless I'm missing something there was no way to change tactics for opponent with 2nd controller. Looks like that will all have to be done in editing.


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            Thanks for checking this out.


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            • Krebstar
              is looking at stats.
              • May 2005
              • 12904

              #126
              Re: PES 2017 Tactics

              Originally posted by Valisen
              Doesn't look like this works. Tried a couple different things with a second controller and it would only let me go to whichever controller 1s team was. So co-op. Unless I'm missing something there was no way to change tactics for opponent with 2nd controller. Looks like that will all have to be done in editing.


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              That's definitely a bummer, as it means I'll have to actually put in all the tactics I want before I start a ML...but I'm crazy enough to do it.

              OR, people start including custom tactics that work well into option files, but first I'm just going to focus on getting some more working.

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              • RoyceDa59
                Chillin
                • Aug 2003
                • 3830

                #127
                Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                Originally posted by Krebstar
                That's definitely a bummer, as it means I'll have to actually put in all the tactics I want before I start a ML...but I'm crazy enough to do it.

                OR, people start including custom tactics that work well into option files, but first I'm just going to focus on getting some more working.
                If we don't want to lose our team formations and edited stats we will have to export the data in case you download another persons OF.

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                • Spora
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 56

                  #128
                  Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                  Do I lose edited formations if I apply live updates in the future?

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                  • Krebstar
                    is looking at stats.
                    • May 2005
                    • 12904

                    #129
                    Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                    Originally posted by Spora
                    Do I lose edited formations if I apply live updates in the future?
                    Not 100% sure, but I believe so.

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                    • RoyceDa59
                      Chillin
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 3830

                      #130
                      Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                      Originally posted by Krebstar
                      Not 100% sure, but I believe so.
                      I think you do because Live Updates also included updating formations.

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                      • Krebstar
                        is looking at stats.
                        • May 2005
                        • 12904

                        #131
                        Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                        Tactics Spreadsheet
                        PES 2017 AI/CPU Tactics

                        Made some updates today—Premier League is starting to take shape! Will hopefully have time to work on more generic tactics tomorrow.

                        Woohoo!

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                        • Valisen
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 76

                          #132
                          Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                          Originally posted by Krebstar
                          Tactics Spreadsheet
                          PES 2017 AI/CPU Tactics

                          Made some updates today—Premier League is starting to take shape! Will hopefully have time to work on more generic tactics tomorrow.

                          Woohoo!


                          Damn. You're the man Kreb.


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                          • Krebstar
                            is looking at stats.
                            • May 2005
                            • 12904

                            #133
                            Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                            Originally posted by Valisen
                            Damn. You're the man Kreb.


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                            Just nerding out as much as I can! My wife already pointed out I'm having too much fun not actually "playing" the game, ha.

                            Should be able to finish out the Premier League in the next few days for sure.

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                            • spartansocc12
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 238

                              #134
                              Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                              Originally posted by Krebstar
                              Tactics Spreadsheet
                              PES 2017 AI/CPU Tactics

                              Made some updates today—Premier League is starting to take shape! Will hopefully have time to work on more generic tactics tomorrow.

                              Woohoo!
                              Great stuff!!

                              Quick question, what are your thoughts on the 5-second change? Obviously you have fluid formation on where the team shifts depending on whether they are on the ball or not.

                              So far I've found that as long as player positions aren't too drastically different when in possession and when out of possessions, the end-to-end play can be negated. It also reduces the need for the CPU to get back into their correct positions when transitioning from attack to defense. However, if the players need to travel too far the CPU will and should take advantage of that open space by attacking much more quickly. Are you seeing that as well?

                              Also the auto-switching tactics feature is turned on for the CPU, will they use their defensive tactics when necessary or mainly just adjust their attacking/defensive attitude instead?

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                              • TeleTex82
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 237

                                #135
                                Re: PES 2017 Tactics

                                Originally posted by Krebstar
                                Just nerding out as much as I can! My wife already pointed out I'm having too much fun not actually "playing" the game, ha.

                                Should be able to finish out the Premier League in the next few days for sure.
                                Its been a couple.of years since I have seen you this excited about tactics Krebs, cheers buddy.

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