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  • Hutton
    Banned
    • Aug 2008
    • 832

    #1216
    Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

    Originally posted by Tomasperez9
    Typically, in the 4-3-2-1, the lone striker tends to be a larger, target forward type player who can bring the midfielders into the game by holding up the ball and playing with his back to goal. It's typical to see midfielders score their fair share of goals when playing with only one forward. I wouldn't recommend trotting Defoe or Keane out as lone strikers, as they aren't physically strong enough to hold off defenders and be the link man to the attacking midfielders. As for your substitutions, do you think to yourself before the "I'm going to bring out Jermain in the 64' and bring in Pavlychenko", or do you strategically take them out? It seems as though you're playing some of the strikers out of a personal obligation to play them, not because they fit your tactical scheme or the situation in which you play them.

    Yeah, I probably picked the wrong formation for the squad I have. I really should be running with a more traditional 2 striker attack, but I've relied solely on the 4-2-3-1 thus far so I'm scared to see the results if I switch up mid season. Maybe I can work in a few matches in the Carling Cup using a 4-4-2.

    I went with the 4-2-3-1 because I wanted to use Lennon & Modric to their full advantage, and thought getting some wingers into the attack would be good, and frankly I can't argue with the results, it just doesn't fit my current squad real well.

    Maybe I will try Crouch as a true target man, and look to get rid of Keane or Defoe. Pavluchenko seems to play pretty well, so I might as well keep him.

    Regarding my substitution strategy: yes, I guess I do look to make a sub of a striker out of "obligation", mostly because since I play with only one lone striker I feel the need to get everyone involved in the game until someone steps up & takes ahold of the position. Right now nobody has stepped forward I kind of like trying out different striker settings with the various players I have, just to see what works & what doesn't. In the end I probably need to just sell off the non-target man strikers I have & buy someone who fits the bill.....or work in a 4-4-2 formation.

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    • Perceptor
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 4364

      #1217
      Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

      If you're interested in a 4-2-3-1 type of striker, Edin Dzeko is your man. He's an absolute monster in FM 10. I have him on my Milan save playing with Pato and he's lighting it up. I know Spurs don't start out with a ton of cash, but he's 23 million at the start of the game and is well well worth the money

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      • rsnomar05
        MVP
        • Dec 2003
        • 3662

        #1218
        Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

        Originally posted by Perceptor
        If you're interested in a 4-2-3-1 type of striker, Edin Dzeko is your man. He's an absolute monster in FM 10. I have him on my Milan save playing with Pato and he's lighting it up. I know Spurs don't start out with a ton of cash, but he's 23 million at the start of the game and is well well worth the money
        He's now valued at $40 mil in my save, but looking at his stats, he'd be well worth the money.

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        • devilsjaw
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 3572

          #1219
          Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

          Originally posted by Perceptor
          If you're interested in a 4-2-3-1 type of striker, Edin Dzeko is your man. He's an absolute monster in FM 10. I have him on my Milan save playing with Pato and he's lighting it up. I know Spurs don't start out with a ton of cash, but he's 23 million at the start of the game and is well well worth the money
          Andre-Pierre Gignac is another In my Toulouse save, he's a beast in that type of formation and can be had for cheaper most likely.

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          • Bruins
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            • Mar 2004
            • 6433

            #1220
            Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

            Just because I get a kick out of checking this list out...

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            • devilsjaw
              MVP
              • Mar 2003
              • 3572

              #1221
              Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

              Cahill 22.5 million!!! haqhahahahaaa

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              • Hutton
                Banned
                • Aug 2008
                • 832

                #1222
                Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                Originally posted by Perceptor
                If you're interested in a 4-2-3-1 type of striker, Edin Dzeko is your man. He's an absolute monster in FM 10. I have him on my Milan save playing with Pato and he's lighting it up. I know Spurs don't start out with a ton of cash, but he's 23 million at the start of the game and is well well worth the money

                Unfortunately I'd need to raise funds in order to make that type of transfer, and I have yet to have success getting premium value from my players.

                Manu keeps making some putrid £18M (£3M upfront, rest over 36 months, 20% sell on clause) for Modric. That's almost exactly what Spur originally paid for him, why would that deal make any sense? I keep telling them to F off.

                Maybe my the January window I'll have enough cash built up to make a move for a better fitting striker....

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                • Bruins
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 6433

                  #1223
                  Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                  Originally posted by devilsjaw
                  Cahill 22.5 million!!! haqhahahahaaa
                  English players are always so overpriced.

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                  • Bruins
                    .
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 6433

                    #1224
                    Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                    Originally posted by Hutton
                    Manu keeps making some putrid £18M (£3M upfront, rest over 36 months, 20% sell on clause) for Modric. That's almost exactly what Spur originally paid for him, why would that deal make any sense? I keep telling them to F off.
                    If you want them to back off, instead of flat out rejecting the offer, counter them with a ridiculously high asking price. Either they will back off or, in some cases, enter a new bid at that high price.

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                    • Perceptor
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 4364

                      #1225
                      Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                      Or if you want to sell and get rid of them. Offer the player to clubs but don't put them on the transfer list and see who bites. If someone from a big rep club like a Man U submits a bid, stall it and see who else bids. Then artificially up the price and see what happens.

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                      • Hutton
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 832

                        #1226
                        Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                        The last thing I want to do is sell Modric. My worst fear is I counter with some outrageous offer & manu comes back stronger, and my board intervenes & makes the offer go through. I thought by issuing a "hand-off" warning they might just go away.

                        These deals/offers over 30 or 36 months are just plain stupid & quite insulting. I don't have any interest in them whatsoever.

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                        • Bruins
                          .
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 6433

                          #1227
                          Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                          Originally posted by Hutton
                          The last thing I want to do is sell Modric. My worst fear is I counter with some outrageous offer & manu comes back stronger, and my board intervenes & makes the offer go through. I thought by issuing a "hand-off" warning they might just go away.
                          Thing is, if you're a smart manager, EVERY player should have a price. Counter with what you WOULD sell him for, even if it sounds outrageous. Sometimes you can't keep 'em all. The money can be used elsewhere to strengthen.

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                          • BunnyHardaway
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 15195

                            #1228
                            Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                            Originally posted by rsnomar05
                            Do you sub based on fatigue, match-rating, a mixture of both? And what is the fatigue of the players going into the game?

                            Often times the late equalizers are due to the players being too tired.
                            A mixture of both, but I slant it towards fatigue.

                            I had a decent result after this post with a 1-0 win in league play, but followed that up with blowing a 2-0 lead to Southampton and losing 3-2. I'm still kinda baffled as to why I'm underperforming, I thought I was going to be in a promotion spot rather easily.

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                            • Perceptor
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 4364

                              #1229
                              Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                              Originally posted by Hutton
                              The last thing I want to do is sell Modric. My worst fear is I counter with some outrageous offer & manu comes back stronger, and my board intervenes & makes the offer go through. I thought by issuing a "hand-off" warning they might just go away.

                              These deals/offers over 30 or 36 months are just plain stupid & quite insulting. I don't have any interest in them whatsoever.
                              If you don't want to sell him, raise the price to 100 million and the team interested will withdraw their interest. Works every time

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                              • BunnyHardaway
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 15195

                                #1230
                                Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                                Trying to get Steve Zakuani from Seattle, but they're holding on to him like he's the next Ronaldo.

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