***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

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  • rsnomar05
    MVP
    • Dec 2003
    • 3662

    #3181
    Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

    Originally posted by ZM Punk
    The more I look and read about our situation the more I think were screwed.

    I think Wenger had no clue that the Summer was going to unfold the way it has and now he has no idea what to do. It really does feel like there is no way this doesn't end badly for us.
    I'm more optimistic, but the waiting is really hard. I just want something to happen, one way or another, so if it's bad news we can get on trying to salvage the summer.

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    • misterbroom12
      Rookie
      • Jul 2010
      • 291

      #3182
      Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

      Originally posted by ZM Punk
      The more I look and read about our situation the more I think were screwed.

      I think Wenger had no clue that the Summer was going to unfold the way it has and now he has no idea what to do. It really does feel like there is no way this doesn't end badly for us.
      Apparently Nasri feels the same way we do about Cesc, that no matter what, we can't replace Cesc if (and inevitably when) he leaves. Because of this, Nasri wants to go to a place where he has a better chance of winning things. So it seems more like we lose none or both.

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      • Krebstar
        is looking at stats.
        • May 2005
        • 12904

        #3183
        Originally posted by misterbroom12
        Apparently Nasri feels the same way we do about Cesc, that no matter what, we can't replace Cesc if (and inevitably when) he leaves. Because of this, Nasri wants to go to a place where he has a better chance of winning things. So it seems more like we lose none or both.
        I think he also wants cash and a lot of it is as simple as that. The deal that was or still is on the table would pay him £5 million a year/90,000 a week, I believe.

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        • Krebstar
          is looking at stats.
          • May 2005
          • 12904

          #3184
          Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

          Pretty good article in The Guardian.

          Without control, a manager is no longer the author of his own story. This summer Wenger is being dictated to by events for which he is to blame. A grand idea taken to an unworkable extreme is the way many of us regard the great Arsenal project to impose flowing one-touch football on the Premier League. Those of us who want him to prosper with a team built in his own creative image despair when fundamental prerequisites for success are wilfully omitted, such as a properly organised and resolute back five.
          Paul Hayward: Arsène Wenger has to purge a failing culture at Arsenal and begin afresh with hardened winners

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          • ZM Punk
            We Spent Some Money!
            • Feb 2003
            • 6260

            #3185
            Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

            Originally posted by Krebstar
            I think he also wants cash and a lot of it is as simple as that. The deal that was or still is on the table would pay him £5 million a year/90,000 a week, I believe.
            I still can't believe that we won't bend from our wage structure. If we are to stay in the top 4 we have got to give our better players higher wages. Instead we give stupid wages to guys like Denilson and Bendtner that they don't deserve.

            Whether we like it or not in an open market Nasri is worth 110k a week and if we don't pay it then there are multiple teams lining up that will.
            "The academic support at Ohio State, there is no way you can fail. Even if you're giving minimal effort there is no way you can fail."

            Adolphus Washington-Ohio State Freshman

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            • Krebstar
              is looking at stats.
              • May 2005
              • 12904

              #3186
              Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

              Originally posted by ZM Punk
              I still can't believe that we won't bend from our wage structure. If we are to stay in the top 4 we have got to give our better players higher wages. Instead we give stupid wages to guys like Denilson and Bendtner that they don't deserve.

              Whether we like it or not in an open market Nasri is worth 110k a week and if we don't pay it then there are multiple teams lining up that will.
              Oh I just wanted the figures out there. I still think the whole solution to keeping Nasri is backing up the truck to his door and unloading the money. The second that happens, he says everything was a misunderstanding and the supporters move on.

              It's just business and it sucks that in the modern day that is what it is, but it's best to accept that. Sadly, the brass at the club haven't. They're raising ticket prices and make insane amounts each home game. Just pay him as I still think he's on his way to being one of the best in the world in the future. At this point, paying Nasri isn't a gamble, it's an investment.

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              • ZM Punk
                We Spent Some Money!
                • Feb 2003
                • 6260

                #3187
                Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                Originally posted by Krebstar
                Oh I just wanted the figures out there. I still think the whole solution to keeping Nasri is backing up the truck to his door and unloading the money. The second that happens, he says everything was a misunderstanding and the supporters move on.

                It's just business and it sucks that in the modern day that is what it is, but it's best to accept that. Sadly, the brass at the club haven't. They're raising ticket prices and make insane amounts each home game. Just pay him as I still think he's on his way to being one of the best in the world in the future. At this point, paying Nasri isn't a gamble, it's an investment.
                Seeing that Alex Ferguson is willing to pay 20 million for a guy that has one year left on his deal should tell Wenger and company all they need to know about the ability of the player.
                "The academic support at Ohio State, there is no way you can fail. Even if you're giving minimal effort there is no way you can fail."

                Adolphus Washington-Ohio State Freshman

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                • Krebstar
                  is looking at stats.
                  • May 2005
                  • 12904

                  #3188
                  Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                  Sky is reporting that he's rejected the latest offer. I don't want to see him go, but if he's going to, we need to get on it. Preseason training starts next week and this team has a lot of work to do for next season. I was hoping by this point we'd have all of our business done. Although, it is only July 2nd. Time to take some deep breaths.

                  Meanwhile, Wenger is saying he wants him to stay. Well, I'd hope so.

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                  • rsnomar05
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 3662

                    #3189
                    Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                    Arsenal have apparently expressed an interest in Uzbek midfielder Odil Ahmedov. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...016001,00.html

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                    • ZM Punk
                      We Spent Some Money!
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 6260

                      #3190
                      Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                      Originally posted by rsnomar05
                      Arsenal have apparently expressed an interest in Uzbek midfielder Odil Ahmedov. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...016001,00.html
                      Another great diamond in the rough I see.
                      "The academic support at Ohio State, there is no way you can fail. Even if you're giving minimal effort there is no way you can fail."

                      Adolphus Washington-Ohio State Freshman

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                      • Krebstar
                        is looking at stats.
                        • May 2005
                        • 12904

                        #3191
                        Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                        By the way, **** you, Samir Nasri.

                        “We already earn huge wages. The priority is to make a big career and to win titles. With no titles under your belt, you can’t be in the list for the Ballon d’Or.”
                        All about that individual trophy.

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                        • misterbroom12
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 291

                          #3192
                          Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                          This is getting to be disappointing. I know we are not the club to just push transfer rumors through the press or to overpay for players just to get them for the hell of it but all I keep reading is that "no concrete offer" has been made. First Gervinho, then Samba and now Cahill. Why the f*** can't we just put money down? We're on the brink of losing 3 starters, 2 of which are the best players we have and we won't hurry to try to bring anyone in to try and save the team. You know Nasri wants trophies, show him that were serious about winning them. Don't *****foot around and continue with our normal transfer tactics, that's why we're here in the first place. This club makes me so angry sometimes at how stubborn they are with the most easily fixed problems.

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                          • ~LiverpoolRed~
                            YNWA
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 10755

                            #3193
                            Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                            Don't know how legit it is but I just read on the Sky transfer ticker that you are interested in Kevin Doyle. Seriously?

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                            • Krebstar
                              is looking at stats.
                              • May 2005
                              • 12904

                              #3194
                              Originally posted by ~LiverpoolRed~
                              Don't know how legit it is but I just read on the Sky transfer ticker that you are interested in Kevin Doyle. Seriously?
                              Yeah it was mentioned on the Arseblog a well. Apparently we're that sad.

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                              • Mo
                                SSN
                                • May 2003
                                • 11425

                                #3195
                                Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                                We need some humor in here

                                Don't you EVER read my blog? It's gotten a lot better.

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