The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

[KG]

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Unless the deal was already agreed before that and every big club knew they'd have no chance regardless. Pep needs cash and a good foundation. United don't have much that Pep would like other than the "history and tradition." City have the squad Pep would see himself being successful with

While you can't argue that City has the better players, United actually has a system in place that is more similar to what Pep's philosophies are.

[Perceptor]

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You could argue City's system is more stable as they have invested a lot into their academy and youth system. United used to have a rock solid system but it hasn't been the same in quite a long time. While City still sign big names they're also putting the money into their club infrastructure. That makes them more attractive right now than United. That's all I'm saying.

[BunnyHardaway]

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You could argue City's system is more stable as they have invested a lot into their academy and youth system. United used to have a rock solid system but it hasn't been the same in quite a long time. While City still sign big names they're also putting the money into their club infrastructure. That makes them more attractive right now than United. That's all I'm saying.

Their academy stadium is nicer than most lower division stadiums. It's absurd.

I think you'll start to see the fruits of their labor shortly. Iheanacho was signed as a youth player, for example.

[KG]

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You could argue City's system is more stable as they have invested a lot into their academy and youth system. United used to have a rock solid system but it hasn't been the same in quite a long time. While City still sign big names they're also putting the money into their club infrastructure. That makes them more attractive right now than United. That's all I'm saying.

Oh no doubt Perceptor. You'd be a fool to go to United over Citeh right now IF you believe in your ability to implement your system. I'm interested to see what Pep does with YaYa. He's not the same player he was at Barca when it comes to effort and work-rate.

[Brahvocado]

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You could argue City's system is more stable as they have invested a lot into their academy and youth system. United used to have a rock solid system but it hasn't been the same in quite a long time. While City still sign big names they're also putting the money into their club infrastructure. That makes them more attractive right now than United. That's all I'm saying.

City's youth setup has far surpassed United's, it's one of the best academy setups in the world right now. It's one of the very few things you will see United fans unanimously concede on, and one of the biggest sources of anger towards the club. They've let their academy slip to a pretty startling degree, several United players have their own children in City's academy.

Most people know this these days though, which is why I'm almost positive KG meant their first team setup and foundations, which is logical considering LVG set the foundations for both teams Pep has managed.

[Perceptor]

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Great points. I really enjoyed this discussion. It will be very interesting to see what happens now with United.

[Leon]

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Oh no doubt Perceptor. You'd be a fool to go to United over Citeh right now IF you believe in your ability to implement your system. I'm interested to see what Pep does with YaYa. He's not the same player he was at Barca when it comes to effort and work-rate.

To borrow from Twitter, Pep said he wanted a challenge. That challenge is filling up the seats at Etihad Stadium.

Highly doubt Yaya sticks around. He left Barca while Pep was reaching his peak because he wasn't played where he preferred and they're not exactly buddies.

Great points. I really enjoyed this discussion. It will be very interesting to see what happens now with United.

Daily philosophy lessons and the chase for the (formerly known as) Arsenal Cup.

[Brahvocado]

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Crazy. Liverpool have spent the last 25 years desperately trying to unseat United and take their perch back, but it's entirely possible that the little brother from the other side of Manchester will swoop in out if nowhere and do it for them.

[KG]

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To borrow from Twitter, Pep said he wanted a challenge. That challenge is filling up the seats at Etihad Stadium.

Highly doubt Yaya sticks around. He left Barca while Pep was reaching his peak because he wasn't played where he preferred and they're not exactly buddies.



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Busquets had a lot to do with it and even though YaYa is great player, it was the right decision since Sergio is probably the best in the world at his position. YaYa has been playing deeper the last few matches for Citeh but we'll see how the rest of the season goes.

[Brahvocado]

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Pep plays a very high pressure system and Yaya doesn't do that. I think that would be the only reason Yaya leaves other than maybe going to China/MLS.

But then again Yaya is a huge baby so who knows.

[Leon]

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Crazy. Liverpool have spent the last 25 years desperately trying to unseat United and take their perch back, but it's entirely possible that the little brother from the other side of Manchester will swoop in out if nowhere and do it for them.

Well, they got 14 first division titles to go to match Liverpool, 16 to match United. I'll be relaxed on that for now.

[BunnyHardaway]

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Pep plays a very high pressure system and Yaya doesn't do that. I think that would be the only reason Yaya leaves other than maybe going to China/MLS.

But then again Yaya is a huge baby so who knows.

He needs to go regardless of who the manager is.

[Brahvocado]

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Well, they got 14 first division titles to go to match Liverpool, 16 to match United. I'll be relaxed on that for now.

You don't have to match trophy count to unseat a dynasty though.

[Brahvocado]

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He needs to go regardless of who the manager is.

I don't know about "NEEDS" to go.

If somebody got him to agree to take a back seat and play less games (unlikely, but technically possible) he'd be worth keeping.

Yaya has plenty of faults, but he's still a world class player and I think he gets too much grief. The problem is that he's a 32 year old box to box mid being asked to play every single game for a team that plays a LOT of games. When you watch him play you can tell he knows he has to pick and choose his moments.

If he played less games I think we'd see a lot more Yaya being Yaya.

[KG]

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Pep plays a very high pressure system and Yaya doesn't do that. I think that would be the only reason Yaya leaves other than maybe going to China/MLS.

But then again Yaya is a huge baby so who knows.

I'd expect Pep to tweak his system like he did to accommodate to Xabi at Bayern. Xabi's far from Busquets defensively but can control the tempo/pace better. I think it's up to Yaya but given his age and recent history, yeah a move could be the best for both parties.