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  • Krebstar
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    • May 2005
    • 12904

    #931
    The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

    Originally posted by ImTellinTim
    I’ll check back with you around the first one.

    Think about how United were playing under Mourinho...now go watch some Arsenal matches under Emery...what are you expecting?

    Mourinho will say absurd things in the buildup, but on the field it’ll be horrible. No pressing, no urgency, just two teams wanting to play without the ball.

    The idea of Mourinho saying inflammatory things before a NLD meaning the match will be better is ridiculous. Those matches have been fantastic to watch for years because Poch would set up his team to play, as would Wenger, and as of last year so did Emery.
    Last edited by Krebstar; 11-19-2019, 10:12 PM.

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    • ImTellinTim
      YNWA
      • Sep 2006
      • 33028

      #932
      The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

      I’m not talking about the quality of the match though? I’m just gonna sit back and eat the popcorn since this is all far below Liverpool at the moment. The first chance will be on December 4th when he returns to Old Trafford.

      Also, we spent a whole lot of time talking about what Mou said in press conferences at United, so I don’t believe that you aren’t going to supremely annoyed immediately at Mou when he starts opening his mouth at at Spurs of all places lol.
      Last edited by ImTellinTim; 11-19-2019, 10:20 PM.

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      • Krebstar
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        • May 2005
        • 12904

        #933
        Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

        Originally posted by ImTellinTim
        I’m not talking about the quality of the match though? I’m just gonna sit back and eat the popcorn since this is all far below Liverpool at the moment. The first chance will be on December 4th when he returns to Old Trafford.

        Also, we spent a whole lot of time talking about what Mou said in press conferences at United, so I don’t believe that you aren’t going to supremely annoyed immediately at Mou when he starts opening his mouth at at Spurs of all places lol.


        I am.

        The NLD for years has been the last derby that would deliver in terms of match quality, consistently.

        Press conferences have not made the NLD what it is—that’s why I’m talking about match quality. Go look at old threads—everyone talks about the match, not the buildup and cheap shots in the press.

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        • Suntan Superman
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          • Feb 2009
          • 7135

          #934
          Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

          Caring about the NLD and Mou at Spurs would mean I'd have to care about Arsenal.


          good luck convincing me that's worth my time.
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          • Keirik
            MVP
            • Mar 2003
            • 3770

            #935
            Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

            My god. As others have Said, Tottenham will always let you down in the end. Poch literally was the least of their problems. Jose will do well if he takes over based on pure adrenaline. However, a year from now, we will be talking about how short sighted this was.
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            • Krebstar
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              • May 2005
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              #936
              The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

              I’ve already seen the idea of him having a much better squad to work with at Spurs compared to United.

              Better, yes, but that Spurs squad still has holes and has never had the depth they’ve needed. Poch was the one filling holes—not the club/board/Levy.

              Poch always seemed to do better with what he had (less) than other managers—I don’t think Mourinho will do the same. I could end up being very wrong, but it does not at all seem like a good pairing.

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              • Krebstar
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                • May 2005
                • 12904

                #937
                The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                Originally posted by Krebstar
                I’ve already seen the idea of him having a much better squad to work with at Spurs compared to United.

                Better, yes, but that Spurs squad still has holes and has never had the depth they’ve needed. Poch was the one filling holes—not the club/board/Levy.

                Poch always seemed to do better with what he had (less) than other managers—I don’t think Mourinho will do the same. I could end up being very wrong, but it does not at all seem like a good pairing.

                Before someone does a breakdown of the squad and how so many players are perfect for Mourinho—save it. He’ll still need more to win something meaningful (everyone has decided domestic cups don’t count any longer) and I don’t see Spurs giving him what he’ll want.

                Lastly, this isn’t coming from an anti-Mourinho perspective. I think there are places he could go and win big—I just don’t think Spurs are one of those places.
                Last edited by Krebstar; 11-20-2019, 05:59 AM.

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                • Suntan Superman
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                  • Feb 2009
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                  #938
                  Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                  I'm more excited for the Mou redemption arc at Spurs than I am about anything regarding Arsenal.
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                  • Krebstar
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                    • May 2005
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                    #939
                    Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                    Originally posted by Suntan Superman
                    I'm more excited for the Mou redemption arc at Spurs than I am about anything regarding Arsenal.

                    I want to believe you, but you mentioning current Arsenal academy players in the Arsenal thread makes it hard to do so.

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                    • Suntan Superman
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                      • Feb 2009
                      • 7135

                      #940
                      Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                      Originally posted by Krebstar
                      I want to believe you, but you mentioning current Arsenal academy players in the Arsenal thread makes it hard to do so.
                      My brain separates Arsenal and the Arsenal Academy. I also just watch a ton of academy football.
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                      • Zac
                        World-Class Diver
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 4269

                        #941
                        Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                        I'm shocked Jose took the job honestly. He wont get the money he wants to buy the players he wants and will struggle. Its going to most likely be his short job. They are going to lose a lot of players in the summer. And I doubt Levy gives Jose money to spend. He never gave Poch any money. I fully expect a full implosion and Jose gone about this time next year.

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                        • ImTellinTim
                          YNWA
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 33028

                          #942
                          Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                          Poch did get quite a bit of money this past summer. I highly doubt they signed Mourinho only to give him absolutely no backing at least in these first couple windows. That would just be dumb.

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                          • Brahvocado
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 7480

                            #943
                            Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                            I’m just so disappointed

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                            • Suntan Superman
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                              • Feb 2009
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                              #944
                              Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                              Originally posted by Brahvocado
                              I’m just so disappointed
                              Remember that time Mourinho said he'd never manage Tottenham because he loves Chelsea too much?
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                              • Krebstar
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                                #945
                                Re: The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

                                Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                                Poch did get quite a bit of money this past summer. I highly doubt they signed Mourinho only to give him absolutely no backing at least in these first couple windows. That would just be dumb.
                                The issue was the lack of spending on the squad before this Summer—I think Poch was able to paper over the cracks last year, but in reality, their issues started before this season and not spending earlier was part of that.

                                They might give him some backing, but I don't think they'll give him the kind of backing he'll inevitably demand. CL money, stadium revenue or not, this is still Spurs and its run as an investment first and a sporting operation second by the ownership and Levy. They'll surely at some point say he needs to make it work with what he has.

                                Everyone said it with United—you bring him in if you want to win now, and you're willing to do what it takes to win now. Spurs are not a team that will be willing to bring in/spend on players that he'll want. That doesn't take anything away from him as a manager—give him what he needs and he'll produce results, not everyone can do that. However, not every team can and will give him what he needs.

                                As for anyone thinking surely, Mourinho wouldn't take the job without assurances that he'd be backed in the market—I wouldn't' believe that. Jose is all about Jose—he misses managing, he missed being in the spotlight, and if it doesn't work out he'll just throw the entire club under the bus while talking about his own past accomplishments, get a big payoff, and work in Italy or Spain in a few years.

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