Anticipation Attribute

[shogunofharlem3]

The title says it all. I like to tinker with attributes of 2K Sports' games and see what I can get out of them. Here is a quick link to the goalies whose attributes I edited for 2k10, countless hours but end result, much better goalies, very 2k8ish for those that get the reference.

Anyway, as a fan of MLB 2k12 a few things bugged me defensively. Biggest one was the infielders running at everything full speed, including line drives that were ripped at them, should be no time to take 8 steps at a smoke shot....unless...........they are "anticipating" it, which I think triggers those awkward charges and stuff.

SO, I edited 1 team, Red Sox, and put all their "anticipation" defensive ratings at their lowest value (25) and played 2 games. The defense looked great as they play to their "Range" now and not "anticipating" a ball.

Give it a shot. Takes 2 minutes to edit 1 team. Play them vs. each other, see if it was just me or if they played much less frantic and much more composed if you will.

I know 2k13 is right around the corner, but now is when it is fun to see what you can get out of the game in its last breath per se.


GLOBAL EDIT

Anticipation: 25
Acceleration: 99
Catcher Block Plate: 99

[tvman]

Re: Anticipation Attribute

The title says it all. I like to tinker with attributes of 2K Sports' games and see what I can get out of them. Here is a quick link to the goalies whose attributes I edited for 2k10, countless hours but end result, much better goalies, very 2k8ish for those that get the reference.

Anyway, as a fan of MLB 2k12 a few things bugged me defensively. Biggest one was the infielders running at everything full speed, including line drives that were ripped at them, should be no time to take 8 steps at a smoke shot....unless...........they are "anticipating" it, which I think triggers those awkward charges and stuff.

SO, I edited 1 team, Red Sox, and put all their "anticipation" defensive ratings at their lowest value (25) and played 2 games. The defense looked great as they play to their "Range" now and not "anticipating" a ball.

Give it a shot. Takes 2 minutes to edit 1 team. Play them vs. each other, see if it was just me or if they played much less frantic and much more composed if you will.

I know 2k13 is right around the corner, but now is when it is fun to see what you can get out of the game in its last breath per se.

I'll give it a whirl! Thanks

When watching replays, and i'm assuming you watched plenty, did you notice how soon after contact they took their first step towards the ball and was there a difference?

[shogunofharlem3]

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Ya, and the balls up the middle, the middle infield doesn't seem to go straight across or in towards home plate to make the play. They take a better angle towards centerfield. Looks much more realistic.

The one that kept killing me was the line drives. I played in college, I'll tell ya, there is NO time to be running at a line drive. Obviously this isn't recoding the game, it is merely and attempt to tame.

I also have outfield speed at 5 and infield at 0 for sliders. With OF Throw speed of 95 (to offset their slow release and runners getting extra bases due to that) and IF throw speed at 75 to get more bang bang plays.

[mkharsh33]

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Hmmmm... I wonder if the guys will be able to eventually take my roster file and do a global edit on it using the Reditor?? This could be a HUGE find (making it more likely I do NOT purchase 2K13 by the day). Thanks!

[shogunofharlem3]

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I just played a 3rd game. Saw some sick double plays. Saw a one hop rocket go by Ortiz at 1st, he is no gold glover, but normally would have fielded it and made a running motion towards the 1st base coach's box.

Very interesting. I'm going to do some more editing later on tonight hopefully, see if I can find a medium between range and anticipation or sometihing. Few beers and my wheels get turning.

Give it a go. I will say, playing defense with Ellsbury in center is way better than playing with Sweeney. We shall see where this goes. I did a bunch of global ediiting on NHL 2k10, went miles and we instituted it into the newest roster updates. Check my You Tube channel for some of those vids and improvements.

So far I like it. But need to play a few more games. And may also bump up outfield speed to 10 as they definitely lost that first "anticipatory" step.

[tvman]

Re: Anticipation Attribute

Hmmmm... I wonder if the guys will be able to eventually take my roster file and do a global edit on it using the Reditor?? This could be a HUGE find (making it more likely I do NOT purchase 2K13 by the day). Thanks!

Just tried and yes in three seconds all players 25 anticipation, lol.

[tvman]

Re: Anticipation Attribute

I just played a 3rd game. Saw some sick double plays. Saw a one hop rocket go by Ortiz at 1st, he is no gold glover, but normally would have fielded it and made a running motion towards the 1st base coach's box.

Very interesting. I'm going to do some more editing later on tonight hopefully, see if I can find a medium between range and anticipation or sometihing. Few beers and my wheels get turning.

Give it a go. I will say, playing defense with Ellsbury in center is way better than playing with Sweeney. We shall see where this goes. I did a bunch of global ediiting on NHL 2k10, went miles and we instituted it into the newest roster updates. Check my You Tube channel for some of those vids and improvements.

So far I like it. But need to play a few more games. And may also bump up outfield speed to 10 as they definitely lost that first "anticipatory" step.

Cheers, keep us posted.

[shogunofharlem3]

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Wondering if anyone had a chance to try anticipation at 25? Impressions?

I was planning on testing some more last night but I ended up out with my coaching staff till the weeeee hours of the morning crushing beers....I teach, kids are a joy today. Ugh.

Anyway, I think we're on to something. Just looking to see if anyone else tried and what their impressions were, also, what were your defensive sliders at?

[jr86]

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I gave this a whirl last night.
One thing i am sure of is that it definitely produces much smoother animations and not so much of the running in the mud effects you see with it raised.
Infielders also don't seem to charge the ball as much either and like yourself saw a very pretty double play where the SS backhanded the ball calmly and flicked it to 2nd before the 2nd baseman gunned it to first without the seemingly run 5 steps before they throw the ball effect.
Now with that said i also went ballistic in the hit and run column in one of the games with 14hits and 11 runs so i don't know if by changing the anticipation affected this or not or whether it was just an anomoly.
May just lower the contact slider a notch and take it from there but as far as a smoother experience i definitely think you are onto something..

[shogunofharlem3]

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Nice. Great to see that your seeing the same thing as me. Now I need to figure out a few things. I have a replay I saved of a chopper that my shortstop barehanded and threw on the run that is so silky smooth its sick.

Questions:
What type of hits were you seeing? (I was seeing hard hits get into the hole and balls down the lines for doubles, which was awesome).

What was your IF / OF difficulty slider set at? (mine was at 0 / 5, now that they lost that "anticipation" step, maybe that needs to hit 5 / 10, 10 /15 area).

How big of a difference did you see between "excellent" fielders and "average" fielders? (I saw Pedroia make some nasty plays and covered a ton of ground, but, Aviles, didn't cover quite so much, and Ortiz was a pig at first, balls getting down his line, which is how it should be and Ellsbury, wow, he was awesome, covered the whole OF.

[jr86]

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Yep, shots down the line but especially straight up the middle shots were not getting snagged at an unrealistic rate which i personally think happens way too much so i was delighted to see that this seems to be a fix for this.

I am using MK's set so IF/OF speed is at 5/5.
I had actually raised the contact slider to 35 as i was not seeing enough offense but i think i will move it back to 30.

I'll get a few more games in later against different teams.

[shogunofharlem3]

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I agree, I saw lots of hits up the middle that would normally be snagged and leave me scratching my head.

In the games I played with the Red Sox. Pedroia could cover tons of ground, and I think his "range" attribute is up in the 90s. Aviles, however, doesn't have as good of "range" and lots of balls to the shortstop side of 2nd would be hits as well as balls in the hole, very cool.

However, balls to the 2nd base side were gobbled up by Dustin. Really really shows separation between fielders. Will make you finally think twice about who plays where. I have been known to stack my lineup at the sake of my defense, because, frankly, it didn't matter before. Now it really seems to.

I'm stuck at work now but when I get home I will do some more testing. Looking forward to hearing more impressions / results. Lets make an already good game better!

[mkharsh33]

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This sounds promising. The slider to keep an eye on is the hit POWER slider - that is critical to the speed of the ball off the bat (how hard it's hit). It's really sounding like this is the way to go, so with that said, we'll now need to give consideration to 1) IF and OF speed and 2) user batting power. Beyond those items, I don't think anything would need to be changed.

I can post one more roster file (xbox users - the 2K12 updated roster project) and then see if someone would be kind enough to do a global edit on EVERY player. I normally don't like seeing all players with universal numbers, but the differentiation can be made up through the other attributes. Thanks, guys!!

[shogunofharlem3]

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I'm not a huge global edit guy either but if it works to make the game better, than so be it.

I have a few videos I'm going to upload to youtube after I finish this Red Sox Yankees game. I'm down 1-0 in the 4th. Nasty game.

I have a 3 vids from yesterday, sox sox, and one from today, sox yanks. Very basic video from today but shows the great angle Aviles took to the ball up the middle and made a very realistic and smooth looking play. The angle sells it

[tvman]

Re: Anticipation Attribute

This sounds promising. The slider to keep an eye on is the hit POWER slider - that is critical to the speed of the ball off the bat (how hard it's hit). It's really sounding like this is the way to go, so with that said, we'll now need to give consideration to 1) IF and OF speed and 2) user batting power. Beyond those items, I don't think anything would need to be changed.

I can post one more roster file (xbox users - the 2K12 updated roster project) and then see if someone would be kind enough to do a global edit on EVERY player. I normally don't like seeing all players with universal numbers, but the differentiation can be made up through the other attributes. Thanks, guys!!

Mk if you post a file later I can do a global to 25 anticipation. I could just post it here with a description that it is the roster you posted just edited.