RTTS Pitching Velocity Problem (Solved)

[nuckles2k2]

Please don't merge this thread with the other RTTS thread..that one is already too long and it's not really going anywhere.

Ok, as you all know there seems to be something up with the RTTS pitching...a lot of people can't get their fastball up to the reported speed on their scouting card even with all velocities raised.

The problem is that certain pitches lower your velocity if you have them in your repertoire from the very beginning. But without them you can hit high speeds relatively early.

Fastball velocity



Slider velocity



12-6 curve velocity



Scouting report read out.



Fastball with the meter going into the red.



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And here's Metal's pitcher with similar ratings (but different pitches.)

Really, cause I have evidence to the contrary.

4-seamer velocity:


changeup velocity


curveball


scouting report:


speed of pitch, with meter in red:

Edit: Alright a few of us in this thread figured out the problem. It's adding certain pitches to your repertoire from the very beginning.


Man....I have to thank Brandon_c993 for all of his hard work. This is dedication, lol.

I tested nearly every pitch

Pitches that effect the 4SFB velocity: Curveball, Palmball, changeup, knuckleball (the effect isn't as great as the other 3 pitches, but it does effect the velocity of your 4FSB fastball)

Pitches that DO NOT effect the 4SFB velocity: 12-6 curve, Slider, Splitter, Cutter, sinker, Running fastball, Screwball, Slurve, Sweeping curve, Forkball, circle-change

Untested: Knuckle-curve

We have more info to add here thanks to lv2bll

even though that is a bug if you just go through it and keep dumping velocity into all your pitches you will start hitting your expected speeds once they're around 80-85 points for each(im using 4sm,chup, sldr,and knu)

Pitch/ in game/ on paper
4sm/ 97/ 98
chp/ 85/ 83
sldr/ 87/ 89
knu/ 68/ 71

as i dumped most of my points into velocity my in game speed is close to the scouting point so if you dont want to start over you dont have to


if you want to edit this in to your post you can, i am 3 yrs into my career and i dealt with that bug until i got the velocities up
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[Brandon_c993]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

I have had several different RTTS starting pitchers and I was having the same problem so I decided to try and build up the velocity evenly together, and with my 4SFB at 62, CUT at 58, SPL at 56 I already had my fastball getting up to 90-92 MPH from the original 87-89 so it seems you have to build up evenly from the get go.

I later added a changeup, it has a velocity rating of 49 and my 4SFB has not been under 89 even after that. With all my previous pitchers I built up the velocity for the 4SFB and the control/break for my various off speed pitches. This laltest time I have exclusively built up my velocity for all 4 pitches and it seems to be working like it should.

I would like to see if anyone else tries this, maybe thats the loophole???

[Cozar]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

What about pitching stance, height, and weight?

[nuckles2k2]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

I have had several different RTTS starting pitchers and I was having the same problem so I decided to try and build up the velocity evenly together, and with my 4SFB at 62, CUT at 58, SPL at 56 I already had my fastball getting up to 90-92 MPH from the original 87-89 so it seems you have to build up evenly from the get go.

I later added a changeup, it has a velocity rating of 49 and my 4SFB has not been under 89 even after that. With all my previous pitchers I built up the velocity for the 4SFB and the control/break for my various off speed pitches. This laltest time I have exclusively built up my velocity for all 4 pitches and it seems to be working like it should.

I would like to see if anyone else tries this, maybe thats the loophole???

So you had a 4-seam FB, a cutter, and a splitter and you dumped points into all of the velocities at once and they were all within 6 points of each other. Then you added a change up later and the speed of your fastball was unaffected.

Another person with the first 3 pitch velocity ratings near each other and none of the pitches were a changeup. Could the changeup be the problem?

[Pared]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

You should both compare your player's specifics, such as player position and so forth.

[nuckles2k2]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

What about pitching stance, height, and weight?

I don't think height and weight matters. But I'm a lefty using Kershaw's motion.

[Brandon_c993]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

So you had a 4-seam FB, a cutter, and a splitter and you dumped points into all of the velocities at once and they were all within 6 points of each other. Then you added a change up later and the speed of your fastball was unaffected.

Another person with the first 3 pitch velocity ratings near each other and none of the pitches were a changeup. Could the changeup be the problem?

You know come to think of it every other pitcher of mine started out with some form of the changeup...either ,palmball or changeup and this time I did not...that certainly looks like it might be the problem.

[Garcia]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

Your control numbers are all much higher than his also. I wonder if that has something to do with it. Maybe it won't let you go all out unless you can control where it is going? I don't know, just brainstorming here. I've never done a RTTS pitcher, so I'm sure I'm not much help, but those are the major differences I see in the photos.

[nuckles2k2]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

You know come to think of it every other pitcher of mine started out with some form of the changeup...either ,palmball or changeup and this time I did not...that certainly looks like it might be the problem.

I had a feeling that might be it. So all you have to do is build up all of your velocities evenly and not have a changeup in your initial pitches.

I can't stress how important it is to build up all of your velocities people...a 99 fastball velocity in RTTS with everything else below 65 isn't going to cut it. And avoid having a changeup in your first 3 pitches if you're looking to throw hard early in your career.

[Brandon_c993]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

Your control numbers are all much higher than his also. I wonder if that has something to do with it. Maybe it won't let you go all out unless you can control where it is going? I don't know, just brainstorming here. I've never done a RTTS pitcher, so I'm sure I'm not much help, but those are the major differences I see in the photos.

Well I haven't touched my control ratings for any of the pitches just exclusively velocity, so that probably isn't it...but a good thought

[Brandon_c993]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

I had a feeling that might be it. So all you have to do is build up all of your velocities evenly and not have a changeup in your initial pitches.

I can't stress how important it is to build up all of your velocities people...a 99 fastball velocity in RTTS with everything else below 65 isn't going to cut it. And avoid having a changeup in your first 3 pitches if you're looking to throw hard early in your career.

Ya now I regret adding that changeup so early I should have waited but that thought had never crossed my mind, we should both do some testing with a new RTTS pitcher to see if thats it, I can't post pics due to a lost digital camera

But I could def post the ratings/velocities

[nuckles2k2]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

Ya now I regret adding that changeup so early I should have waited but that thought had never crossed my mind, we should both do some testing with a new RTTS pitcher to see if thats it, I can't post pics due to a lost digital camera

But I could def post the ratings/velocities

I'll test it out with a new pitcher and 3 different pitches in a little bit.

[Brandon_c993]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

I'll test it out with a new pitcher and 3 different pitches in a little bit.

Ya same here I'm in a game against the Reds right now, but once its over I'll check it out and post my results

[nuckles2k2]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

Here's the test run.

4-seam fastball velocity rating.





Sinker velocity rating.





Slurve velocity rating.




Scouting card





Fastball with the pitching meter IN THE RED AREA.




If you follow the guidelines that Brandon and I have set then you'll be fine.

First 3 pitches with a velocity near 60 or above, none of them being a changeup, and you're already hitting 90 with your fastball.

61, 59, 60 gave me a 92mph fastball with the meter going into the red area. That's 1mph higher than my scouting card; same thing with the other pitcher I showed you guys... I was hitting speeds over my scouting card read out.

[Brandon_c993]

Re: Trying to get to the bottom of the RTTS pitching

Here's the test run.

4-seam fastball velocity rating.





Sinker velocity rating.





Slurve velocity rating.




Scouting card





Fastball with the pitching meter IN THE RED AREA.




If you follow the guidelines that Brandon and I have set then you'll be fine.

First 3 pitches with a velocity near 60 or above, none of them being a changeup, and you're already hitting 90 with your fastball.

61, 59, 60 gave me a 92mph fastball with the meter going into the red area. That's 1mph higher than my scouting card; same thing with the other pitcher I showed you guys... I was hitting speeds over my scouting card read out.

This is great you should see if you can get this stickied so everyone with this problem will know what to do, but I will test mine as well just to further confirm it

I'll send a pm to one of the mods asking them if we can get a sticky for it