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Old 03-28-2016, 04:10 AM   #1
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WTNY's 2016 Pitch Edits

UPDATE 4/3 -- PITCH EDITS ARE HERE..for 2-pitch pitchers, you'll have to make up a 3rd pitch. I suggest adding a type of fastball at about the same velocity as the primary fastball. Maybe someday Sony will drop the minimum pitch requirement.

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last update: 7/20/16

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COMING SOON.

The work is done and I'm just waiting for Opening Day rosters to be locked in so I can post the most updated spreadsheet possible.

What's included? Pitch edits for ~960 pitchers based on data from Brooks Baseball updated through the end of the 2015 season. In some cases Spring Training data from 2016 has been incorporated for newer players. In some cases, older pitch edit data has been used for players who haven't appeared in awhile or have been injured.

Take a look at my thread from last year to get a feel for what this is about.

I'm enthused about this year's data because I made a couple of key (in my mind, anyway) improvements from last year.

1) For guys with down-breaking sliders, I was able to better credit them for that this year in the movement ratings. Some guys that benefit a lot from this off the top of my head: Michael Pineda, Tyson Ross, Jeff Samardzija, and Chris Archer.

2) I was a bit stricter about sample size in the sense that I was much more skeptical about using data from a relatively small number of pitches to calculate a control rating. In some cases, I erred on the side of using career numbers or regressing the data a bit to get rid of some really high/really low [undeserved] ratings for control of various pitches due to small samples.

I'll update this when the spreadsheet goes up. Happy gaming!
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Re: WTNY's 2016 Pitch Edits

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COMING SOON.

The work is done and I'm just waiting for Opening Day rosters to be locked in so I can post the most updated spreadsheet possible.

What's included? Pitch edits for ~960 pitchers based on data from Brooks Baseball updated through the end of the 2015 season. In some cases Spring Training data from 2016 has been incorporated for newer players. In some cases, older pitch edit data has been used for players who haven't appeared in awhile or have been injured.

Take a look at my thread from last year to get a feel for what this is about.

I'm enthused about this year's data because I made a couple of key (in my mind, anyway) improvements from last year.

1) For guys with down-breaking sliders, I was able to better credit them for that this year in the movement ratings. Some guys that benefit a lot from this off the top of my head: Michael Pineda, Tyson Ross, Jeff Samardzija, and Chris Archer.

2) I was a bit stricter about sample size in the sense that I was much more skeptical about using data from a relatively small number of pitches to calculate a control rating. In some cases, I erred on the side of using career numbers or regressing the data a bit to get rid of some really high/really low [undeserved] ratings for control of various pitches due to small samples.

I'll update this when the spreadsheet goes up. Happy gaming!
do you need any help? are these dropping in may again?
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This roster is always platinum. Looking forward to it as always.
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do you need any help? are these dropping in may again?
Take a look at my original post! It's already done.

I'm just waiting until Opening Day so I can stay on top of transactions. It makes the data entry a bit easier for people when the players are listed with their current teams.

Once the spreadsheet is up, I expect whoever wants these can enter them into their rosters...whether OSFM v3, Hybrid, or other.
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Take a look at my original post! It's already done.

I'm just waiting until opening day so I can stay on top of transactions. It makes the data entry a bit easier for people when the players are listed with their current teams.

Once the spreadsheet is up, I expect whoever wants these can enter them into their rosters...whether OSFM v2, Hybrid, or other.
do you know if sookiebunnie's OSFM updated roster contains your pitch edits from last year ?

and how long did it take last year before fully edited rosters were released ?

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do you know if sookiebunnie's OSFM updated roster contains your pitch edits from last year ?

and how long did it take last year before fully edited rosters were released ?

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1. No idea. No clue who sookiebunnie is.

2. That depends. This is not a roster first of all--it's a set of edits that people other than me can input into a roster. It may take some time for the OSFM v1 to come out, then usually the v2 is just error corrections to v1. Then after that, the pitch edits are applied to what has usually been called OSFM v3. So I can't really say how long it will take to get a roster with pitch edits, because it depends on how long OSFM v1 and v2 take.

The pitch edits data will be here in this thread and ready for the taking on Opening Day though. The idea is that anyone can enter it into any roster they want. You just have to find someone (or a group of people) willing to enter the data into the game. Last year 55 put the pitch edits into OSFM and a few others did the same for Willard's Hybrid roster. It usually takes a few solid days for someone to do from start to finish.
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Sounds like yourself and Teeds won't be continuing the Realism roster this year WTNY?
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Sounds like yourself and Teeds won't be continuing the Realism roster this year WTNY?
I'm not a fortune teller, but I think that's fair to say. I'll probably work on a roster for myself to use, but I don't envision another massive project like last year. teeds is taking a much-deserved break after 3 years of a really incredible (and perhaps unhealthy) workload with lording over rosters. I think and hope he will sit this iteration out.

I also don't really want to turn this pitch edits thread into a discussion about some roster or speculating about some roster, but thanks for asking.
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