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  • underdog13
    MVP
    • Apr 2012
    • 3232

    #211
    Re: This game feels so scripted at times

    @BCruise

    How do you get your twitch broadcasts to save? I have the option checked to save broadcasts but they never save.
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    • bcruise
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2004
      • 23295

      #212
      Re: This game feels so scripted at times

      Originally posted by underdog13
      @BCruise

      How do you get your twitch broadcasts to save? I have the option checked to save broadcasts but they never save.
      Hmm...it works fine for me. You're sure you've got it checked on the user settings on Twitch's website?

      Just an idea, but you might try unchecking it, saving, running a quick stream, then checking the box again and saving. Might reset whatever's causing that to not work.

      The videos should show up on your dashboard page under "recorded" once they're archiving.

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      • Jr.
        Playgirl Coverboy
        • Feb 2003
        • 19219

        #213
        Re: This game feels so scripted at times

        Originally posted by bcruise
        Fair enough. It wasn't terrible overall, but it's still something the batter can look for on 2-0 - I'll compromise on that. It obviously wasn't where I wanted it though (which is why I call it a mistake pitch) - I was hoping to either have it miss slightly out of the zone or nip the very edge of the zone. It got a lot more of the plate than I wanted, and that's the way it goes sometimes with relievers' control.

        Some folks equate that to scripting. I see it as a reliever making a mistake.
        I completely agree with the idea that the game is not scripted and that the CPU gets a boost in late-game situations. I just thought to provide some input on the pitch. As a former pitcher.. if a guy hits it out on a 2-0 breaking ball, I'm just gonna give a tip of the cap and admit defeat on that one.

        I've had my fair share of games where I pull away in the 6th/7th/8th rather than the score getting closer or the lead changing. I feel at times it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy where once someone loses 1 game in a tough fashion, the "here it goes again" mindset comes in and it happens more and more because people are expecting it to, rather than treating each game as its own entity.
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        • NEOPARADIGM
          Banned
          • Jul 2009
          • 2797

          #214
          Re: This game feels so scripted at times

          I think about it this way: the difference in timing required between hitting a changeup, fastball, and curveball is less than a second - can we all agree? So over the course of a game, there's literally 75-150 instances where you pushing the button 0.34 seconds sooner, or 0.21 second later, would have given an entirely different result. The difference in literal real-world time between a 10-run outburst and a three-pitch inning is literally a few seconds worth of reaction time.

          The same kind of thinking applies to pitching too: no matter what happened on a pitch, you could have done something else that would have worked. The AI doesn't magically hit balls you threw in the dirt, well unless he leaves it up, in which case that's as simple to overlook as his control rating + his confidence + his confidence in the pitch + your execution of the pitch.

          I mean just thinking out loud it sounds like I'm saying there are too many variables at play on every single pitch to even allow for "scripting" in any logical sense. Like okay maybe a walk followed by a hit batter kind of led to a "scripted" 3-run bomb, but it's not like you can realistically argue that if the game had a rewind option you wouldn't have been able to find ANY WAY to get the guy out or get out of the inning unscathed. That's ridiculous.
          Last edited by NEOPARADIGM; 05-18-2014, 09:58 PM.

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          • allstardad
            Banned
            • May 2014
            • 238

            #215
            Re: This game feels so scripted at times

            Great post!

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            • Padgoi
              Banned
              • Oct 2008
              • 1874

              #216
              Re: This game feels so scripted at times

              Some of you take the word "scripted" way too literally. I don't think any of us are suggesting every game is already decided before it happens or certain situations are scripted to happen. I think what we're saying is that the game giving a certain team any boost at all is nonsense and even if it doesn't result in said team starting a rally, giving any team a boost to give them the potential for a big inning is simply not realistic at all.

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              • nomo17k
                Permanently Banned
                • Feb 2011
                • 5740

                #217
                Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                Originally posted by P.A.D.
                Some of you take the word "scripted" way too literally. I don't think any of us are suggesting every game is already decided before it happens or certain situations are scripted to happen. I think what we're saying is that the game giving a certain team any boost at all is nonsense and even if it doesn't result in said team starting a rally, giving any team a boost to give them the potential for a big inning is simply not realistic at all.
                And we are saying that such a boost that gives one side an advantage over another does not occur in the game. That's the whole point and exactly the reason this whole thread is utterly useless.
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                • cardinalbird5
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 2829

                  #218
                  Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                  This thread was scripted. I knew the outcome before I clicked on it and even tried to rationalize.
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                  • bkrich83
                    Old Guy
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 71551

                    #219
                    Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                    Originally posted by nomo17k
                    And we are saying that such a boost that gives one side an advantage over another does not occur in the game. That's the whole point and exactly the reason this whole thread is utterly useless.

                    Exactly. Not sure what's so hard to figure out.
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                    • Ryan97
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 199

                      #220
                      Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                      At the end of the day the users control every aspect of input. Pitch type, location, effort etc. It's on the user and the user only. Bottom line is a lot of people pitch far too passively.

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                      • Knight165
                        *ll St*r
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 24986

                        #221
                        Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                        Originally posted by P.A.D.
                        Some of you take the word "scripted" way too literally. I don't think any of us are suggesting every game is already decided before it happens or certain situations are scripted to happen. I think what we're saying is that the game giving a certain team any boost at all is nonsense and even if it doesn't result in said team starting a rally, giving any team a boost to give them the potential for a big inning is simply not realistic at all.
                        But wait....when I asked why would they do that?.....you said so nobody would go 162-0.
                        There is no way around saying that....and saying that you're not claiming you're not saying that it's not pre-decided.

                        This thread is the same regurge nonsense.

                        But I'll bite one last time.....okay...boost....how and how much?
                        If I give my players a -10 and the CPU players +10.....are you saying that's enough to have no chance to win against them?


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                        • CujoMatty
                          Member of Rush Nation
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 5446

                          #222
                          Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                          Originally posted by Knight165
                          But wait....when I asked why would they do that?.....you said so nobody would go 162-0.
                          There is no way around saying that....and saying that you're not claiming you're not saying that it's not pre-decided.

                          This thread is the same regurge nonsense.

                          But I'll bite one last time.....okay...boost....how and how much?
                          If I give my players a -10 and the CPU players +10.....are you saying that's enough to have no chance to win against them?


                          M.K.
                          Knight165
                          But yet year after year your arguing in the same thread. Lol

                          This thread exists every year and it comes down to 2 extremes usually.
                          1. The whiners. People that are crazy for believing that something that has been around in sports games for an eternity, call it scripting or rubber band or whatever, might be in this game also. You always want proof and take it so litterally when in reality its a group of people needing to rant. The whiners.

                          2. The dicks. People that are soooooo awesome at the game. No scripting is even remotely plausible cause they are way too awesome at being awesome. The most pleasure is derived from making sure the whiners know how crappy they are. The dicks.

                          As you can probably tell im a whiner. Ive seen this thread year after year and its the same. I used to get involved but its really not worth trying to have perspective on the matter and getting internet bullied for having an opinion.

                          Awe crap....... I guess I did get involved.
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                          • kehlis
                            Moderator
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27925

                            #223
                            This game feels so scripted at times

                            Well....



                            We gave it a shot. It was at least respectable for awhile and for that I thank you.





                            But now that this post was made I'm going to close this as it can go nowhere from here:





                            Originally posted by cujomatty
                            But yet year after year your arguing in the same thread. Lol



                            This thread exists every year and it comes down to 2 extremes usually.

                            1. The whiners. People that are crazy for believing that something that has been around in sports games for an eternity, call it scripting or rubber band or whatever, might be in this game also. You always want proof and take it so litterally when in reality its a group of people needing to rant. The whiners.



                            2. The dicks. People that are soooooo awesome at the game. No scripting is even remotely plausible cause they are way too awesome at being awesome. The most pleasure is derived from making sure the whiners know how crappy they are. The dicks.



                            As you can probably tell im a whiner. Ive seen this thread year after year and its the same. I used to get involved but its really not worth trying to have perspective on the matter and getting internet bullied for having an opinion.



                            Awe crap....... I guess I did get involved.




                            Yea, classifying people as either dicks or whiners is a good way to get a thread closed.
                            Last edited by kehlis; 05-19-2014, 09:12 AM.

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