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Old 07-09-2019, 03:09 PM   #81
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Wont do much good for those already playing on Legend but when you get into the other teams bullpen, has anybody bumped the setting up to the next level to see how you fare? I play on dynamic so I cant but I probably have less issues with other teams bullpen mgmt. than some people are seeing
I doubt difficulty level has anything to do with it.
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Old 07-09-2019, 05:43 PM   #82
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I doubt difficulty level has anything to do with it.
I was just thinking that on a harder difficulty relievers would deserve to be pitching longer and not just be in there because of bad a.i. But really it probably just opens up another can of worms worse than the original problem :shrug:
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:10 PM   #83
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AI BP usage must be managed by the Mets manager!
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:25 PM   #84
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AI BP usage must be managed by the Mets manager!
oh remember, they fixed that. it was Eiland's fault. Octogenarian to the rescue! lmao
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Old 07-10-2019, 11:54 PM   #85
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Just so I understand, it looks like this in order of best relievers

MR 1 (setup)
MR 2 (setup)

Then after those

LR 1
LR 2
LR 3
MR 3
MR 4

When not winning, the CPU uses LR 1-3 first correct? Is that why we’re doing this this way?


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so after trying this set up listed for a while i was still running into issues in games that werent close..Lrp1# seems to always come in first choice no matter what score is (this happens before the 8th inning in games cpu is winning or losing) so i decided to have all LRP slots empty..just go for 7 man BP using both set up slots(SU1# for true set up guy and SU#2 for a lefty specialist) who seems to get a occasional nod vs. a lefty batter prior to 8th inning. and then ordering the Mrp slots with slot #1 and #2 using the remaining best pitchers.and slot #3 uses the "long reliever" and slot #4 with worst Rp. so wanted to see what happens and what desicions are made. im getting decent results
so far but need more games. to see what patterns are still happening.
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so after trying this set up listed for a while i was still running into issues in games that werent close..Lrp1# seems to always come in first choice no matter what score is (this happens before the 8th inning in games cpu is winning or losing) so i decided to have all LRP slots empty..just go for 7 man BP using both set up slots(SU1# for true set up guy and SU#2 for a lefty specialist) who seems to get a occasional nod vs. a lefty batter prior to 8th inning. and then ordering the Mrp slots with slot #1 and #2 using the remaining best pitchers.and slot #3 uses the "long reliever" and slot #4 with worst Rp. so wanted to see what happens and what desicions are made. im getting decent results

so far but need more games. to see what patterns are still happening.


Sounds reasonable. So who are they using first before the 8th in this setup, the first MR? If so that makes sense to put the best non setup guy in the first MR spot. Do you see them using the setup guys in the 8th and 9th?


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so after trying this set up listed for a while i was still running into issues in games that werent close..Lrp1# seems to always come in first choice no matter what score is (this happens before the 8th inning in games cpu is winning or losing) so i decided to have all LRP slots empty..just go for 7 man BP using both set up slots(SU1# for true set up guy and SU#2 for a lefty specialist) who seems to get a occasional nod vs. a lefty batter prior to 8th inning. and then ordering the Mrp slots with slot #1 and #2 using the remaining best pitchers.and slot #3 uses the "long reliever" and slot #4 with worst Rp. so wanted to see what happens and what desicions are made. im getting decent results
so far but need more games. to see what patterns are still happening.
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Sounds reasonable. So who are they using first before the 8th in this setup, the first MR? If so that makes sense to put the best non setup guy in the first MR spot. Do you see them using the setup guys in the 8th and 9th?


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ive hated the BP logic for years so i try anything i can over time..so im gonna be keeping track/notes in my physically played games who comes in, when and the score so i can test this out.. im not sure if the "true" long reliever should be in slot 3 or 4 honestly..as far as setup guys have gone the cpu so far still only uses set up #1 in winning situations in 8th however ive seen a left hp in setup#2 has been used in earlier innings for matchups more than once..and i think this is happening only cuz they happen to be the only Lhp out of the pen on these rosters.(i play mngr hook 5 untill SP comes out and then hook goes to 8)im trying to peak at box scores from cpu vs. cpu games to see what pitchers are used there as well to see what slots they are in. on a side note i was thrilled to see the cpu put in the closer in a tie game in the 9th inning of my NYY/Sea game the other night. pleasent surprise.
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