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  • zrtelford
    Rookie
    • Feb 2006
    • 253

    #1

    Defensive Help, Tips

    As the title states, could we get a thread that we can add defensive tips and hints. I play on Allstar Sim, and I give up WAY to high of a fg percentage. I tend to get lost at times on D, or I tend to have guys on the perimeter getting open looks too often. which results in me giving up 110-120 pts per game on 11min quarters. FG% hovering around 55-58% Maybe there are some simple settings I can adjust, any help would be appreciated by not only me I assume. thanks in advance.
  • dmankey1
    Rookie
    • Oct 2013
    • 384

    #2
    Re: Defensive Help, Tips

    Originally posted by zrtelford
    I tend to get lost at times on D
    This happens to me as well. I try to stay with one defender during the offensive possession and that usually helps. When I start switching players every time they pass the ball then it causes trouble for me. On some occasions I will switch but usually in situations where their tempo as slowed and it doesn't cause a "jerky" transition

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    • Bornindamecca
      Books Nelson Simnation
      • Jul 2007
      • 10919

      #3
      Re: Defensive Help, Tips

      On Ball Defense TIPS

      *Watch the 2kU tutorial on defense if you haven't
      *Pressing the Left Stick fully in a direction is not an option. Your character will have a lot of startup frames before they take a step. Tap the stick all the way one full direction and you'll see that their leg moves a little bit, but you have to HOLD the direction to get an input, which is the dreaded "laggy" on ball defense. Stop doing this
      *You have TWO basic options for defense-
      -Lightly touching the stick will move your player with reliable safe shuffling
      -LT modifier plus Turbo will move your player with FASTER shuffling: Two Trigger Defensive Shuffle (TTDF)

      IMO, every other option is bad and has either too much startup or recover animation. I'd stay away from the R Stick step. You can't recover and change directions from it. The two above methods allow you to change directions

      WHEN TO USE EACH OF YOUR TWO OPTIONS

      Pay attention to the ball hand of your opponent. If you anticipate that they will move toward the ball hand, use your L-Stick Feathering technique. If they crossover, you can stick with the L-Stick if you anticipated it, but if you didn't, switch to the Two Trigger Defensive Shuffle.

      Stay about an arm away from your man and focus on where he's going, not where he is. If he pulls up, use the TTDF and move towards him. If you're close, this will probably be enough, but if you think you need more use the Right Stick or Y button to contest. Being near your opponent is not enough for a shot contest in this game. Must get a hand up.

      Don't be tempted to over do it with the TTDF. Use it as a counter to their big move, but not as a way to simply guard. If you TTDF first, you'll likely have to apologize to your teammates.
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      • amedawg00
        2K OL Legend
        • Jan 2008
        • 2884

        #4
        Re: Defensive Help, Tips

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        • BBF24
          Rookie
          • Aug 2014
          • 19

          #5
          Re: Defensive Help, Tips

          Any tips for block shots? I can't block a shot to save my life.

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          • crusaderhoops10
            Rookie
            • Mar 2005
            • 268

            #6
            Re: Defensive Help, Tips

            Originally posted by BBF24
            Any tips for block shots? I can't block a shot to save my life.
            Blocking shots is really tough. You just have to time it perfect or take advantage of a player who is on a longer shooting animation. Even using Ibaka, Brow, Dieng and other good shot blockers, I'm never able to meet guys at the summit and reject them. I'm really considering bumping the block slider up at this point.

            In general, the CPU (on All-Star sim for me) makes a lot of contested shots. They've been shooting over 50 percent against me. Take away some of those contested looks and it'd be more realistic.

            I do have a lot of success sliding with left trigger and utilizing right trigger at times. You have to anticipate the drive and then be ready to use the right stick to contest. I've been in tight position and then used triangle to block and been called for shooting fouls (once again, so tough to block shots).

            I control off the ball a lot because my CPU teammates are always getting out of position. I believe it's because the 4-5 guys are always picking up their man around the 3-point line instead of just being in position near the paint waiting for them to come to them. It gets them so they're scrambling and that always means they'll get lost. Other than that they will switch at odd times. Be mindful for who is helping from where off the ball. There seems to be much more weakside defenders sliding into the paint but the issue is, sometimes it'll be a 2-3 leaving an open 3-point shooter (even if a 4-5 is in a spot where it should be them sliding over.

            Playing D for me is just trying to switch around from defender to defender to slide guys to the right spot. It makes it real tough and can be frustrating if you do everything right only to have a CPU guy hit contested 12-footer that seems predetermined to go in.

            I've lost a few games because of this, but only with teams I'm not used to playing with. I usually play with OKC and know them so well offensively, I can always outscore someone with them.

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            • swac07
              MVP
              • Feb 2007
              • 1843

              #7
              Re: Defensive Help, Tips

              Feathering wth the right stick also it causes your player/defender to do a mini scoot (unlike 2k14 which caused the defender to do a side hop)either left or right helps alot too. I watched the 2ku def tut and found this out. Its helped me on def....im still not shutting players down on off how I would like but I am staying with them better than when i first started playing
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              • ruxpinke
                Pro
                • Apr 2008
                • 908

                #8
                Re: Defensive Help, Tips

                where can i find the 2ku tutorial?
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                • Scottsomnia
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 163

                  #9
                  Re: Defensive Help, Tips

                  Originally posted by ruxpinke
                  where can i find the 2ku tutorial?

                  Go to quick game and it's one of the options

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                  • ruxpinke
                    Pro
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 908

                    #10
                    Re: Defensive Help, Tips

                    Originally posted by Scottsomnia
                    Go to quick game and it's one of the options

                    Thanks! hopefully my 38 hour ps4 download will be done by the time i get home from work today
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                    • zrtelford
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 253

                      #11
                      Re: Defensive Help, Tips

                      At the risk of sounding cheesy, this community rocks. I don't always realize that, but its a great place to come as a lifetime sports gamer and get great tips like these. thanks again everyone. keep em rolling, I can't wait to get home tonight and implement some of these.

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                      • morningstar777
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 241

                        #12
                        Re: Defensive Help, Tips

                        2 things that helped me:

                        1. Don't reach
                        2. Don't jump

                        The defensive is very unforgiving, one gamble and you get scored on. Just stay in front of your man as best as you can and put your hand up when he takes a shot. I learned myself the hard way

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                        • NewJerseyProdigy
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 140

                          #13
                          Re: Defensive Help, Tips

                          Can someone go over the match ups and assignments? How to set them up against certain players? Terminology: Hard Hedge, Soft Hedge, Go Over, Go Under, Double, Ice, etc

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                          • highzman28
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 78

                            #14
                            Re: Defensive Help, Tips

                            Originally posted by NewJerseyProdigy
                            Can someone go over the match ups and assignments? How to set them up against certain players? Terminology: Hard Hedge, Soft Hedge, Go Over, Go Under, Double, Ice, etc
                            Hedging- hedging is when second defender aka the guy guarding he pick setter, comes up on the pick side to try and prevent the ball handler from being able to go around the pick.

                            So soft will make him do it really quickly and run back to his guy and hard will make him stay longer to prevent the ball handler from penetrating

                            Go over or go under- this is for the defender being picked...

                            If you select to go under the defender will go behind the screen... Do this against players who look to drive rather then shoot.

                            If you play against a player who can shoot like curry etc go over the screen this should help prevent them from shooting and force them to try something else.

                            Double seemly means your two defenders involved in the pick and roll etc will double team and trap the ball handler

                            Ice- this means you want the on ball defender to force the ball handler in the opposite direction of the pick. So your defender would theoretically play a tight defense and deny the ball handler the ability to go pick side.

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                            • Bp365
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 20

                              #15
                              Re: Defensive Help, Tips

                              Anyone having success getting players to miss driving layups or if your opponent passes to someone right near the rim. Wait a couple seconds then go up. Seems automatic. Playing on Hall of fame/Sim. Thinking its positioning but its extremely frustrating when the offensive payer makes a simple move then finishes the driving contact layup even on help defenders.

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