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  • JohnnyCash2015
    Rookie
    • Jun 2015
    • 342

    #1

    How do you guys use defensive settings?

    Since the expanded defensive settings came out in 2k15, I haven't been very good defensively. I player lock one player and it seems that all my teammates don't do what they are supposed to do.

    Constantly allowing open shots, not covering certain things correctly,etc.

    So in terms of defensive settings, before each game should I go in and set up a "game plan" for each player?

    I'm getting the shooting percentages that I want but I know that I'm seeing things on the defensive end that I would like to clear up.

    So how do you guys approach defensive settings? Do you use them?


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  • SolidSquid
    MVP
    • Aug 2014
    • 3159

    #2
    Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

    I learned last year to tailor my game plan at the beginning of each game. Basically go through the matchups and change on ball and off ball settings to take away what each player does best.

    Good shooter but not a slasher I'm playing tight
    Poor jump shooter but good at getting to the rim I'm sagging or playing moderate
    Good at both just pick your poison.

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    • JohnnyCash2015
      Rookie
      • Jun 2015
      • 342

      #3
      Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

      Originally posted by SolidSquid
      I learned last year to tailor my game plan at the beginning of each game. Basically go through the matchups and change on ball and off ball settings to take away what each player does best.



      Good shooter but not a slasher I'm playing tight

      Poor jump shooter but good at getting to the rim I'm sagging or playing moderate

      Good at both just pick your poison.

      Thanks, I'll try this.


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      • Smallville102001
        All Star
        • Mar 2015
        • 6542

        #4
        Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

        I really wish I knew what in the heck all the defensive settings do. I watch a lot of the NBA but yet I don't know what just about ever setting does and we have some new ones this year. I have always found NBA 2k games to be really hard and even more so on d. I cant stay in front of any body. I just played a game on all star sim and lost by 58 lol. The people who make the game say that all star sim is the difficulty that should give you the most realistic game play yet I get killed on all star even though I know a lot about basketball. I guess my stick skills just suck. Even on pro I have always had a hard time stopping the CPU from scoring and trying to stay in front of people. I would love if 2k would come on hear and tell use what all these settings do and how they work and to hear about the POE and how it works because no matter what I have the POE set at I don't notice any difference with the way guys play. Like what does the pre-rotate do in this game?

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        • Smirkin Dirk
          All Star
          • Oct 2008
          • 5179

          #5
          Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

          It's interesting that they;ve broken up screen defense into 2 categories- center and on centre.

          If you play with a mobile center use a hard hedge. I play with Pachulia and Dirk so I select no hedge.
          2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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          • Smirkin Dirk
            All Star
            • Oct 2008
            • 5179

            #6
            Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

            Originally posted by Smallville102001
            Like what does the pre-rotate do in this game?
            It determines how you off ball teammates defend. If you've got it on they'll shift over to to the guy that is likely to be left open.
            2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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            • Smallville102001
              All Star
              • Mar 2015
              • 6542

              #7
              Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

              Originally posted by Hot Kidd
              It determines how you off ball teammates defend. If you've got it on they'll shift over to to the guy that is likely to be left open.


              How so it should help to keep less guys from getting opening and to make d easier?

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              • JohnnyCash2015
                Rookie
                • Jun 2015
                • 342

                #8
                Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                Originally posted by SolidSquid
                I learned last year to tailor my game plan at the beginning of each game. Basically go through the matchups and change on ball and off ball settings to take away what each player does best.



                Good shooter but not a slasher I'm playing tight

                Poor jump shooter but good at getting to the rim I'm sagging or playing moderate

                Good at both just pick your poison.

                Thanks again, won my first game on Superstar thanks to you verifying that I should check the defensive settings before each game




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                • Insight23
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1585

                  #9
                  Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                  Originally posted by JohnnyCash2015
                  Thanks again, won my first game on Superstar thanks to you verifying that I should check the defensive settings before each game




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                  Those D'Angelo Russell stats are the reason I tweak the sliders a bit & only play on 10 minutes. 15 rebounds & 7 blocks? Damn haha good win tho


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                  • JohnnyCash2015
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 342

                    #10
                    Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                    Originally posted by Insight23
                    Those D'Angelo Russell stats are the reason I tweak the sliders a bit & only play on 10 minutes. 15 rebounds & 7 blocks? Damn haha good win tho


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                    Yea the blocks were ridiculous, I player lock Russell so I think a little user "skill" goes into that, however the game before, Hibbert, who I don't control, had 7 blocks as well.

                    So I think the blocks are a bit much.

                    The rebounds however I truly earned, I'm always on the boards. Should have had 1-2 more actually,lol.


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                    • Insight23
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1585

                      #11
                      Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                      Originally posted by JohnnyCash2015
                      Yea the blocks were ridiculous, I player lock Russell so I think a little user "skill" goes into that, however the game before, Hibbert, who I don't control, had 7 blocks as well.

                      So I think the blocks are a bit much.

                      The rebounds however I truly earned, I'm always on the boards. Should have had 1-2 more actually,lol.


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                      Yea I had to lower blocks 5 points in the sliders menu they are a bit easy but if your were just controlling Russell the rebounds definitely makes sense. Unless that turns into an average aha


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                      • JohnnyCash2015
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 342

                        #12
                        Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                        Originally posted by Insight23
                        Yea I had to lower blocks 5 points in the sliders menu they are a bit easy but if your were just controlling Russell the rebounds definitely makes sense. Unless that turns into an average aha


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                        Lol through two games I'm averaging a triple double, but I'm shooting horribly, just 39% from the field and I'm a turnover machine, so it balances out. I think my rebound and block numbers will come down slightly tho, or else I'll have to do the same and lower the slider a little.


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                        • Insight23
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 1585

                          #13
                          Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                          Originally posted by JohnnyCash2015
                          Lol through two games I'm averaging a triple double, but I'm shooting horribly, just 39% from the field and I'm a turnover machine, so it balances out. I think my rebound and block numbers will come down slightly tho, or else I'll have to do the same and lower the slider a little.


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                          I'm shooting with Wade like that haha I've taken some bad shots. Players go on streaks of putting up bad numbers so yea all is well as long as they eventually drop some.


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                          • ThatMichiganFan
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 801

                            #14
                            Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                            Originally posted by Hot Kidd
                            It determines how you off ball teammates defend. If you've got it on they'll shift over to to the guy that is likely to be left open.
                            Thanks for that, as I have been wondering. Pre-rotate all means everyone rotates, no pre-rotate means no off ball rotations. One quick question about it,

                            For example, if i am playing against the clippers and set pre-rotate to off, except for Pierce and Reddick, would players rotate to them, or rotate off of them?

                            Thanks for the advice.
                            GT: minibeast100
                            2K18 Advanced Rotations:https://forums.operationsports.com/f...-myleague.html

                            2K18 Sliders:https://forums.operationsports.com/f...n-sliders.html

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                            • DC
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 17996

                              #15
                              Re: How do you guys use defensive settings?

                              Originally posted by Smallville102001
                              How so it should help to keep less guys from getting opening and to make d easier?
                              So you wouldn't want to pre-rotate too much off of a shooter. I can go through and break down my logic when it comes to setting these sliders pre-game

                              On Ball Pressure
                              Gap: Non threat, Non Shooter (Tony Allen)
                              Moderate: Decent shooter, or vs someone that can blow by you (Andre Iguadola)
                              Tight: Good shooter that you can also stay in front of. (Klay Thompson)
                              Smother: Good shooter but I only use this vs. someone that can't really handle the ball. If you smother Kyrie, you will get burned. (Kyle Korver)

                              Off Ball Pressure : Be careful here because you also have to think about preventing offensive rebounding.
                              Gap: Non threat, Non Shooter (Tony Allen)
                              Moderate: Decent shooter (Eric Bledsoe); Non-threats but are good rebounders.
                              Tight: vs. Good shooters (Kyle Korver); You can also use this vs. great rebounders but you probably would want to help off of him so use at your discretion.
                              Smother: Use this when you are playing a great offensive threat. But be careful because you might give up backdoor cuts.

                              Force Direction
                              I force everything to the baseline. Point blank, I don't want to give up any middle penetration.

                              On-Ball Screen and Off-Ball Screen You really only need to use this vs. people that will be the ball-handler in a PnR situation. So don't worry about setting this vs. Dwight
                              Go Over: Shooter
                              Go Under: Non-Shooter
                              Switch: I use vs vs. non-offensive threats. I also use this for people that won't really blow by my non-center bigs. You have to think about your 1-4 and their ability to stay in front of the player you are setting it up for.
                              Ice: Use this when you want the on-ball DEFENDER to force the ball-handler away from the screen. I would only use this when the on-ball defender is a strong defender. I wish this could be situational because I would only want to use this on the sideline pNr situations.

                              Hedge
                              No-Hedge: Use this vs. an absolute non-threat perimeter player (Tony Allen)
                              Soft Hedge: I would use this against someone that isn't going to KILL you and won't probably look to score most of the time once they turn the corner. (PJ Tucker)
                              Hard Hedge: If you know this dude is going to turn that corner and look to score, use the hard hedge. (Bledsoe)
                              Double: Now, if this player can turn the corner and attack AND he has the ability to look for others out of the PnR situation, I would double him. (LeBron)


                              Hedge (Center)
                              See the hedge section above, but you need to know who your center is. Depends on his footspeed (quickness) and on-ball defense IQ
                              Soft: Non-athlete vs a scorer
                              Hard: Athletic vs a scorer
                              No-Hedge: Non-athlete vs. a non offensive threat
                              Double: Use at your judgement, but if your Center is too slow, he might struggle even getting into doubling position in time. You might get split honestly.

                              Post
                              Front: If I front a player, I am doubling from the weakside. If I am getting killed by a player in the post, I will front him. I don't usually START off fronting anyone
                              Behind: If I am playing a non-post threat, I always play behind because I am not worried about them honestly.
                              3/4 Top: If I am playing against a post threat, I will start off with this. Again, this ties into my theory of forcing everything baseline. This shades your offensive player to the baseline.
                              3/4 Bottom: If you want to shade the player to the middle of the court (where your help can be sent) you can use this option. I sometimes trick people I play by putting this setting on a BAD post player so they can think they see an advantage. Again, use with discretion.

                              Double Teams:
                              Self Explanatory
                              Concrete evidence/videos please

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