The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

[Iasounis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kleinevos

I don’t disagree but why stoop yourself to the same sad level by quitting? I’ve had that happen to me. I just do my job on D and on offense sit on top of the key. Good for defense badges, xp and rep. You’ll be getting teammate grade for floor spacing and stopping fastbreaks. Sure it wont be fun. But atleast I’m still getting something out of the game while being the bigger man.

I don't really look at it as stooping to their level. If people want to play REC, they have to accept the fact that they're not gonna know all of their teammates. With that, nobody has the right to decide that someone isn't permitted the opportunity to engage in the game. Now if some dude is playing for himself, go ahead and freeze him out. But, unless you have a good reason, everyone deserves a chance. Believe me, I'm no ball hog and understand if the flow doesn't present me chances, but if I'm gonna be frozen out, in an imminent loss, I have zero guilt of leaving to find another game. In fact, I may be doing them a favour by giving them a bot that they can pass to and call for the ball back whenever they want.

My opinion....

[howardphillips214]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kleinevos

I don’t disagree but why stoop yourself to the same sad level by quitting? I’ve had that happen to me. I just do my job on D and on offense sit on top of the key. Good for defense badges, xp and rep. You’ll be getting teammate grade for floor spacing and stopping fastbreaks. Sure it wont be fun. But atleast I’m still getting something out of the game while being the bigger man.

Because i don't pay 60 dollars every year to watch someone go 1-12 in the first quarter while I'm standing underneath the basket wide open.

I've had plenty of 20 plus rebound games where i score 2 points.

[howardphillips214]

There really should be a "missed open shooter" or "missed easy assist" when players take bad shots when you're under the basket. It should be on top of "take bad shot" so they lose twice the teammate grade. Just blew a team out by 30 with randoms but i had 3 shots to their 20+ a piece by each wing position. Then when we win I'm like "I'll see if they want to run again" but they quit the locker room instantly. It just let's you know people don't value good big men at all.

Regardless of what position I'm on at the wing with my squad, if i see the big running on the break by himself I'm throwing a lob, or taking the easy 2. I want to reward my bigs for doing the dirty work.

[Erithtotl]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy

This issue with this is that in the current system, everyone has roughly the same grade. I'll occasionally come across someone that's just starting out and has like a C but overall, almost every player I've ever seen in the Rec Center or Park (but I don't play Park all that often) is somewhere between a B and A- for their average grade (and really, it's almost all B+ or A-; a B is usually the signal to me that the guy is probably terrible.

I brought this up a while ago and everyone told me I was crazy, that they didn't like the old system where a couple of turnovers would drop their grade from an A- to a C+.

But this is so much worse. I've played with guys who go 2-19 with 8 turnovers but still finish with a C- grade because they threw a few bailout assists to the AI. In previous versions they'd have been kicked. Now someone can basically grief the whole game and not get kicked.

[Iasounis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Erithtotl

I brought this up a while ago and everyone told me I was crazy, that they didn't like the old system where a couple of turnovers would drop their grade from an A- to a C+. But this is so much worse. I've played with guys who go 2-19 with 8 turnovers but still finish with a C- grade because they threw a few bailout assists to the AI. In previous versions they'd have been kicked. Now someone can basically grief the whole game and not get kicked.

He ain't lying. I somehow managed a game where I was very average other than 8 turnovers (that's way too high), and still got an A+ grade.

[Housh123]

Quote: Originally Posted by tru11

find it intresting that quitters are using selfish teammates as an excuse to quit on a team , yet cant see that quitting is the definition of being selfish. something like the pot calling the kettle black... i miss the days when quitting on the team was frowned upon.

I aint tryna hate or throw shade but this reads as someone with alot of time to play when they do play. On weekdays I probably get 1-3 hours in a session. I dont have time to sit and run 5 games where my team is down 20 points in the 1st because of trash teammates. I dont know how much you value your time but dont hate on others for valuing their time on the game

[Housh123]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kleinevos

I don’t disagree but why stoop yourself to the same sad level by quitting? I’ve had that happen to me. I just do my job on D and on offense sit on top of the key. Good for defense badges, xp and rep. You’ll be getting teammate grade for floor spacing and stopping fastbreaks. Sure it wont be fun. But atleast I’m still getting something out of the game while being the bigger man.

This isnt true

When ppl freeze you out you get no XP and if you do happen to be the only guy on a team that is playing smart the other team will just double team you and youll be forced to pass to bums who will likely not get many points off your passes.


You must be a big because only a big can really still get his 20 boards and 10 points on a trash team. Iv had games at PG where I was the only one with a brain and i started seeing doubles before halfcourt, so i pass and the ball NEVER finds its way back to me so i end up with 3 shots all game when a bum had 20 because I was forced to pass.

[Housh123]

Quote: Originally Posted by Iasounis

I don't really look at it as stooping to their level. If people want to play REC, they have to accept the fact that they're not gonna know all of their teammates. With that, nobody has the right to decide that someone isn't permitted the opportunity to engage in the game. Now if some dude is playing for himself, go ahead and freeze him out. But, unless you have a good reason, everyone deserves a chance. Believe me, I'm no ball hog and understand if the flow doesn't present me chances, but if I'm gonna be frozen out, in an imminent loss, I have zero guilt of leaving to find another game. In fact, I may be doing them a favour by giving them a bot that they can pass to and call for the ball back whenever they want. My opinion....

Heck naw bro

I gotta accept that im with a random bunch of people who may not be great.



But I dont think its too much to expect a guy to pass to a wide open guy instead of go 1-12. THATS the type of player im talking about needs to be segregated from others. Iv had bad games myself where I go 3-12 or something stupid but I didnt shoot bad shoots and in game slike that ill usually have a boatload of assists. Some guys load in 2k literally just to shoot. Its not wrong to quit out on teams that do that and I wish 2k didnt give ppl timeouts fordoing it. I didnt put money and hours into my dude to watch some bum go 1-12 with no assists. What kinda BS is that