SCEA SD DEV "Catcher" question

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I like that you made the catchers fingers visible and easy to read with your counter clockwise pitch priority system.

Things I can clearly read

Pitch type and location(inside, outside and middle)

what the hell are the downward pats signifying? High, low, or middle please explain.

I like playing with all the aids off.

[Dante LeRoi]

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Would like to know that too. How exactly do you have to read the catcher's signs?

[theaub]

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I've never seen the catcher go inside on a righty or outside on a lefty (except for a pitchout for the latter).

[MaverickisBack]

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that odd...i see them do it all the time in the demo.

To the OP...do yourself a favor...play with API on....look for the catcher sign...guess what you think he wants...then it the RT to have them show pitch and location....you will learn it...its not that hard

generally speaking...if he gives in or out...it means mid or high.. if he gives NO directino that means high...if he pats the ground that means low plus the in or out direction he showed. Also use some common sense with pitch types...catchers dont call for too many hi breaking balls or changeups

[backbreaker]

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that odd...i see them do it all the time in the demo.

To the OP...do yourself a favor...play with API on....look for the catcher sign...guess what you think he wants...then it the RT to have them show pitch and location....you will learn it...its not that hard

Again, my question is specific not general. I did play with the aids on and try to figure out this one particular signal and again that signal is "what does the downward pats mean

here is the sequence

Type of pitch, this is easy

the downward pats its always the same 3 or 4 quick taps

then he taps his left, right leg for inside or out and he does nothing for a pitch down the middle

where in the zone or outside of the zone are these pitches to be placed?

I sat and watched with the aids on to get a leg up on the signals and ooh yes he sometimes tap his mitt on the ground for a pitch he wants a strike or pay off pitch

What does the taps mean

[MaverickisBack]

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Again, my question is specific not general. I did play with the aids on and try to figure out this one particular signal and again that signal is "what does the downward pats mean

here is the sequence

Type of pitch, this is easy

the downward pats its always the same 3 or 4 quick taps

then he taps his left, right leg for inside or out and he does nothing for a pitch down the middle

where in the zone or outside of the zone are these pitches to be placed?

I sat and watched with the aids on to get a leg up on the signals and ooh yes he sometimes tap his mitt on the ground for a pitch he wants a strike or pay off pitch

What does the taps mean

ok...first remember that in real baseball they are not pitching to a specific spot but a zone. You need to take into account the count, the sequence and the pitch type. If you gave me a specific sequence I would tell you where it is calling (give me pitch called, catchers motion and count) All of those things make a difference.....for example if its 0-2 and the catcher gives a call for a low curve....that ball is going to be alot different ten say a 3-1 low curve. Actually, a curve is a bad example...cuz if he calls for a curve its generally assumed low. If he pats the ground...to me that means out of the strike zone low. Like i said give me an example and I will tell you what to throw....its quite easy once you get the hang

wait i think i understand what you are asking...the downward pat means nothing. Unless he pats the ground

[backbreaker]

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Look at this video of the show at around the 3:38 mark the player zoom in from that point on, you can see what i'm talking about now tell me where in the zone or out does the pitcher want you to pitch if you can do this please write me a tutorial, it would be greatly appreciated. You will also see the catcher tap his mitt once and then tap twice on pitches that are low does on tap equal low and in the zone, does 2 taps mean low and out of the zone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLkiceO17lg

[Speedy]

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Not sure if this has been caught either but if using the catching view, the way the catcher slides to the plate dirt will fling up (like if he moves on the right side you can dirt on the bottom right of the screen and vice-versa)...I'd like that to be cleaned up

[backbreaker]

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Since we can clearly see fingers now, why not do it this way

pitch type they have done this feature excellently.

Now follow that with additional finger signs for zone location

ect... 3 fingers is for low 2 fingers middle and 1 finger for high

followed by a left, and righ leg tap or nothing for the middle

Now if he wants you to go outside the zone tap twice with the mitt

if he wants you on the black 1 tap of the mitt

Here's the sequence for high inside heat on the black

Pitch Type: 1 finger

Zone Level: 1 finger

Location: Tap the Right leg(based on the batter pos.)

1 tap of the mitt on the ground

I think this is very easy to read

No it isn't a real level of the MLB but for a video game I think its simple and accessible.

[SoxFan01605]

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Since we can clearly see fingers now, why not do it this way

pitch type they have done this feature excellently.

Now follow that with additional finger signs for zone location

ect... 3 fingers is for low 2 fingers middle and 1 finger for high

followed by a left, and righ leg tap or nothing for the middle

Now if he wants you to go outside the zone tap twice with the mitt

if he wants you on the black 1 tap of the mitt

Here's the sequence for high inside heat on the black

Pitch Type: 1 finger

Zone Level: 1 finger

Location: Tap the Right leg(based on the batter pos.)

1 tap of the mitt on the ground

I think this is very easy to read

No it isn't a real level of the MLB but for a video game I think its simple and accessible.

Or they could just add in the normal high low indications. Many catchers use there thumbs on the signal hand (like twitch it up for a high pitch). Or use body language of some type (some go as far as to stand up out of their crouch to convey that they want the ball UP).

I just think adding extra signals for zones on the fingers would be confusing and limiting for the future.

What if they wanted to add sequencing for when runners are on 2nd? Adding signs for the zones would make that very complicated, IMO. Just my thoughts

[backbreaker]

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Or they could just add in the normal high low indications. Many catchers use there thumbs on the signal hand (like twitch it up for a high pitch). Or use body language of some type (some go as far as to stand up out of their crouch to convey that they want the ball UP).

I just think adding extra signals for zones on the fingers would be confusing and limiting for the future.

What if they wanted to add sequencing for when runners are on 2nd? Adding signs for the zones would make that very complicated, IMO. Just my thoughts

Good observation, I will take it under advisement.

Off topic: Batter's eye when scanning the defense

When you Press R3 for Batter's eye, why not allow for R2 to zoom in on the out field?

[Garrett67]

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I just tried this out, never even noticed it was in the game LOL

Anyway, it appears that the less 'pats', the higher the pitch. I noticed 2 pats are high pitches, 4 or 5 is low, 3 is about middle.

Left leg tap is obviously inside (to RH batter), but the right leg tap is so very subtle how he does it with the back of his hand. Its easy to miss.

Fist is a pitch out.


I'm not sure if the glove to the ground means anything. I've always noticed catchers doing it but just assumed it was more of a 'c'mon, lets do this' type of gesture.

[MaverickisBack]

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Look at this video of the show at around the 3:38 mark the player zoom in from that point on, you can see what i'm talking about now tell me where in the zone or out does the pitcher want you to pitch if you can do this please write me a tutorial, it would be greatly appreciated. You will also see the catcher tap his mitt once and then tap twice on pitches that are low does on tap equal low and in the zone, does 2 taps mean low and out of the zone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLkiceO17lg

He wanted a 2-seamer down the middle

Or they could just add in the normal high low indications. Many catchers use there thumbs on the signal hand (like twitch it up for a high pitch). Or use body language of some type (some go as far as to stand up out of their crouch to convey that they want the ball UP).

I just think adding extra signals for zones on the fingers would be confusing and limiting for the future.

What if they wanted to add sequencing for when runners are on 2nd? Adding signs for the zones would make that very complicated, IMO. Just my thoughts

Wow...that is just totally not needed to make it that complicated.

I just tried this out, never even noticed it was in the game LOL

Anyway, it appears that the less 'pats', the higher the pitch. I noticed 2 pats are high pitches, 4 or 5 is low, 3 is about middle.

Left leg tap is obviously inside (to RH batter), but the right leg tap is so very subtle how he does it with the back of his hand. Its easy to miss.

Fist is a pitch out.


I'm not sure if the glove to the ground means anything. I've always noticed catchers doing it but just assumed it was more of a 'c'mon, lets do this' type of gesture.

i think you might be a bit off with this

[Garrett67]

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He wanted a 2-seamer down the middle


Wow...that is just totally not needed to make it that complicated.

i think you might be a bit off with this

Yeah, It seemed correct when I first was playing but as the game went on, it totally changed.

Is there a sure fire way to tell what the location is (high/low)?

[backbreaker]

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He wanted a 2-seamer down the middle

I'm talking about all the pitches, I know all the other stuff, but I'm talking about the 3 to 5 taps he makes with each pitch. The theory behind not guessing. Tell me why he does 5 taps one time and its for a low pitch and then comes back with 5 taps and its high pitch can you explain that?