Brett Favre=Mr. Overrated (Now officially back)

[dragon4ever]

Nine Pro Bowl selections. Seven division titles. Super Bowl champion in 1996. Most Valuable Player in three consecutive years. Most touchdown passes in NFL history. 283 consecutive games played. 164 wins as a quarterback—40 of them coming from behind. A lock for the Hall of Fame.

Bottom line: Favre ranks first all-time in every single major passing category, including yards, touchdown passes, and wins. He earned three consecutive MVP awards and led the Packers to a Super Bowl victory in 1996. He played through more injuries than almost any player in history.

And yet he is still overrated.

He flat-out choked in the playoffs in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2007. His '96 Packers were 1,000 times better than the New England Patriots, and it would have been considered an enormous disappointment had they lost the Super Bowl. The Pack was heavily favored against the Broncos in 1997 and did lose, costing Favre a second ring.

He forces way too many passes and has set interception records that may never be broken. The last 11 years of his career have not matched his first six seasons, and some of his full seasons have been flat-out disappointing for a quarterback in the NFL.

Favre is a fantastic quarterback, and probably the greatest in team history. But he is nowhere near number one and struggles to crack my list of the top 10 quarterbacks of all-time.

.99 for you thoughts.

[Kriech23]

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I agree with almost everything you said. Who's in your top ten if Favre isn't?

[bucksfan07]

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Nine Pro Bowl selections. Seven division titles. Super Bowl champion in 1996. Most Valuable Player in three consecutive years. Most touchdown passes in NFL history. 283 consecutive games played. 164 wins as a quarterback—40 of them coming from behind. A lock for the Hall of Fame.

Bottom line: Favre ranks first all-time in every single major passing category, including yards, touchdown passes, and wins. He earned three consecutive MVP awards and led the Packers to a Super Bowl victory in 1996. He played through more injuries than almost any player in history.

And yet he is still overrated.

He flat-out choked in the playoffs in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2007. His '96 Packers were 1,000 times better than the New England Patriots, and it would have been considered an enormous disappointment had they lost the Super Bowl. The Pack was heavily favored against the Broncos in 1997 and did lose, costing Favre a second ring.

He forces way too many passes and has set interception records that may never be broken. The last 11 years of his career have not matched his first six seasons, and some of his full seasons have been flat-out disappointing for a quarterback in the NFL.

Favre is a fantastic quarterback, and probably the greatest in team history. But he is nowhere near number one and struggles to crack my list of the top 10 quarterbacks of all-time.

.99 for you thoughts.

I'm a die hard Packers fan and I agree with you; Favre was terrible in just about every big game and his decision making made you want to pull your hair out. He's not top 5 of alltime, but definatley top 10 IMO.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I need another beer.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I guess the phrase, "the QB gets all the credit for the win and all the blame for the loss" holds true in this case. Especially the ladder part of that quote.

[metallicatz]

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I think he's over-rated as far as all the "best ever" talk. When you start every game for 17 years you're going to rack up stats. He's lucky Mike Martz wasn't coaching the Packers because Favre would've been run out of Green Bay 5 years ago. And I don't even rate Pro Bowl awards, it's a popularity vote. Favre had no business being given a Pro Bowl nod last year. He was certainly a great QB for alot his career and I wouldn't try to take that away. But personally, he would have a hard time cracking my top 7-10 all time. To me, saying Favre is the greatest QB of all time because he has the stats is like saying Emmitt Smith is the best of all time because he has the most yards. Niether is the case IMHO.

[FootballSchemer]

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Farve is the reason they lost the Super Bowl against the Broncos, he missed the easiest throw in the world on 4th down, man was wide open, Brett threw a pass my grandma could have thrown better...


Brett = Classic Choker

[TheWatcher]

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Brett Favre was a great QB. One of the all-time greats. But "best ever" is a tag that's almost blasphemous to put on him. I cringe when people attempt to talk him up there.

I'm going Joe Montana, then perhaps Johnny Unitas, and I may even hear an Elway argument or two, but after that it's just all reaching.

[Alliball]

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Translation...I really don't like Brett Favre.

[KSUowls]

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Nine Pro Bowl selections. Seven division titles. Super Bowl champion in 1996. Most Valuable Player in three consecutive years. Most touchdown passes in NFL history. 283 consecutive games played. 164 wins as a quarterback—40 of them coming from behind. A lock for the Hall of Fame.

Bottom line: Favre ranks first all-time in every single major passing category, including yards, touchdown passes, and wins. He earned three consecutive MVP awards and led the Packers to a Super Bowl victory in 1996. He played through more injuries than almost any player in history.

And yet he is still overrated.


He flat-out choked in the playoffs in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2007. His '96 Packers were 1,000 times better than the New England Patriots, and it would have been considered an enormous disappointment had they lost the Super Bowl. The Pack was heavily favored against the Broncos in 1997 and did lose, costing Favre a second ring.

I'm a little confused as to how not anyone with credentials like these: 3 MVPs, a superbowl ring, 1 losing season as a starter, won 63% of his regular season games, holds virtually every passing record in the books, great 4th quarter QB, a consistent playoff performer with 39 TDs and 28 ints (10 of those came in 2 bad performances, in the other 20 playoff appaerances it was 35 TDs vs 18 interceptions).

I'd hate to see what it takes to crack your top 10.

He forces way too many passes and has set interception records that may never be broken. The last 11 years of his career have not matched his first six seasons, and some of his full seasons have been flat-out disappointing for a quarterback in the NFL.

There are different styles of quarterbacks. Favre is a gun slinger, he is going to trust his ability to make the throw and more often than not he makes the play. With those chances comes the opportunity for defenses to make more picks.

I doubt we'll ever see someone break his interception records, but that is because most QBs who throw that many interceptions don't have the positives to go along with it (in Farves case those positives are many).

I don't know where this notion that he wasn't great in big games comes from. I guess this really is a what have you done for me lately. I think the memories of 2002, 2005, and 2007 playoffs just stick out in peoples mind where he a bad game in each of the first 2 seasons and then threw that interception in 2007.

There are a few I'd put ahead of him, but he's pushing top 5.

[CW McGraw]

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QBs I consider better than Brett Favre:

Joe Montana
Dan Marino
John Unitas
Bart Starr
Roger Staubach
Sammy Baugh
Sonny Jurgenson
Otto Graham
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady

Well that's 10. I'd say he's on par with Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Warren Moon, Bob Griese if I feel particularly homeristic. He just had too many bad seasons when a QB should be in his prime. The way the modern game is so biased towards offense, there's no excuse for a good QB to throw more INTs than TDs in multiple seasons, much less in his prime.

[SPTO]

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I agree that Favre is not the GOAT but to completely diss the guy is a bit much IMO. I just watched the entire '96 season and Favre was just amazing. In a lot of ways that's the first year the whole "Favre is god" thing started to blow up. The man threw a fair share of INTs but made it up with some passes that no man would ordinarily make yet he got it done.

Also I wouldn't exactly lay all the blame for the SB against the Broncos on Favre. Elway was pretty damn good in that game especially after the rough patch at the start of the game. Terrell Davis played a good game as well. The Broncos exploited the top heavy Packers' D-line and got those guys tired and ineffective once the 4th quarter rolled around. You can't lay all the blame on Favre.

The other games that were listed....Yes you can legit say that Favre caused those losses but he wasn't alone.

Anyways he's in my top 10-15 depending on the day and mood i'm in.

[Hooe]

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Nine Pro Bowl selections. Seven division titles. Super Bowl champion in 1996. Most Valuable Player in three consecutive years. Most touchdown passes in NFL history. 283 consecutive games played. 164 wins as a quarterback—40 of them coming from behind. A lock for the Hall of Fame.

Bottom line: Favre ranks first all-time in every single major passing category, including yards, touchdown passes, and wins. He earned three consecutive MVP awards and led the Packers to a Super Bowl victory in 1996. He played through more injuries than almost any player in history.

And having all of these accolades to himself unequivocably proves he's one of the best quarterbacks, in some people's minds THE best quarterback (disclaimer: not me, I have him in my top 5 though), to ever buckle a chinstrap. End of story.

[snepp]

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I guess the phrase, "the QB gets all the credit for the win and all the blame for the loss" holds true in this case. Especially the ladder part of that quote.

Latter.

[marcoyk]

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Are you serious? He's a legend.