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  • bearschicago
    Pro
    • Jul 2008
    • 674

    #1

    Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

    Using turbo its still too easy to block jumpers. Without using turbo shot contest is realistic because defenders stay low to the ground. Blocking shots while being backed down in the post is rare because the jumping verticle is realistic. In 2K10 it was easy to block post shots because of unrealistic verticle so glad this was fixed.

    Compared to 2K10 blocking jumpers is harder because the AI CPU takes more fadeaways/leaners/momentum jumpers. The CPU contesting defense is fine but for human users, blocking jumpshots is too easy.

    One reason is slow release jumpshots that doesn't get a lot of lift. Think Dirk Nowitzki's shot and Pierce's 3 point set shot. Another reason is using turbo, contesting shots creates unrealistic verticle boost.

    Perhaps a way to fix this is lower the defenders verticle when turbo is used. This also reminds me of players having unrealistic rocket boost rebounding in 2K11. Especially big man like Zydrunas Ilgauskas getting way too many rebounds from behind.

    If they can't lower the verticle, make the CPU take more fadeaways and/or pass out of shots more mid-air.

    Anyone else have this issue?

    In 2K12 they need to add specific animations contesting shots while backpedaling. When backpedaling it is difficult to get off the ground because of momentum/weight carrying you the other way.
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  • Flashstriker101
    Banned
    • Sep 2010
    • 134

    #2
    Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

    FIrst off in real life when your back pedling its hard to block a shot why............because momentum is carrying the other way....the game emulates real life ...secondly they are hard to block don't know what game you been playing but its hard as hell to try and contest carmelo ina mis match again turk

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    • bearschicago
      Pro
      • Jul 2008
      • 674

      #3
      Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

      Originally posted by Flashstriker101
      FIrst off in real life when your back pedling its hard to block a shot why............because momentum is carrying the other way....the game emulates real life ...secondly they are hard to block don't know what game you been playing but its hard as hell to try and contest carmelo ina mis match again turk
      Did you read what I wrote? Of course when backpedaling its hard to block shots. But this animation is not in 2K11. When using turbo I can block too many shots that I shouldn't be because of unrealistic vertical boost.

      Very similar to unrealistic vertical boost rebounding in this game.

      I average 10-12 blocks a game because of this. Unrealistic.

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      • Flashstriker101
        Banned
        • Sep 2010
        • 134

        #4
        Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

        Originally posted by bearschicago
        Did you read what I wrote? Of course when backpedaling its hard to block shots. But this animation is not in 2K11. When using turbo I can block too many shots that I shouldn't be because of unrealistic vertical boost.

        Very similar to unrealistic vertical boost rebounding in this game.

        I average 10-12 blocks a game because of this. Unrealistic.
        What difficulty are you playing on because i'm playing on superstar- hall of fame and i get blocks every now and then i've even had shots hit with hand in there face because its difficult to block if your playing the suns you might get different stats but on super star and hall of fame on simulation it depends on where the hand is did it touch the ball not just cause your hands up in there face up your difficulty and run simulation style

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        • bearschicago
          Pro
          • Jul 2008
          • 674

          #5
          Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

          Originally posted by Flashstriker101
          What difficulty are you playing on because i'm playing on superstar- hall of fame and i get blocks every now and then i've even had shots hit with hand in there face because its difficult to block if your playing the suns you might get different stats but on super star and hall of fame on simulation it depends on where the hand is did it touch the ball not just cause your hands up in there face up your difficulty and run simulation style
          Right now I'm rotating between Simulation All-Star and Simulation Superstar.

          Difficulty really doesn't matter because its not about the hands touching the ball. Its about unrealistic vertical boost when holding turbo and contest shot button at the same time. Also slow forms with hardly any elevation like Dirk Nowitzki and Paul Pierce 3 point set shot is another reason.

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          • TheRealTodd
            Defensive POTY
            • Aug 2010
            • 91

            #6
            Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

            I play with the Rockets. Guess who gets at least 3+ blocks per game? I've had a triple double with Yao - Points, Blocks, Rebounds... and 6 assists Not to mention plenty of 5+ blocking games.

            All my players seem to be getting in on some of it. I had Brooks in a mismatch with Kobe, I knew what was coming, and expected to just put some pressure on him and hope for a miss, but somehow I swatted him into the 3rd row... Sure I jumped outta my chair but I don't see that happening IRL.

            I'm consistently getting blocks on every team, I play on Sim - All-Star now, even though I'm struggling with winning, I'm still racking blocks up.
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            • bearschicago
              Pro
              • Jul 2008
              • 674

              #7
              Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

              Originally posted by TheRealTodd
              I play with the Rockets. Guess who gets at least 3+ blocks per game? I've had a triple double with Yao - Points, Blocks, Rebounds... and 6 assists Not to mention plenty of 5+ blocking games.

              All my players seem to be getting in on some of it. I had Brooks in a mismatch with Kobe, I knew what was coming, and expected to just put some pressure on him and hope for a miss, but somehow I swatted him into the 3rd row... Sure I jumped outta my chair but I don't see that happening IRL.

              I'm consistently getting blocks on every team, I play on Sim - All-Star now, even though I'm struggling with winning, I'm still racking blocks up.
              I know what you mean. Korver had 3 blocks for me in one game! Hopefully this is fixed in a patch (lower the vertical when contesting shots using turbo at the same time).

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              • Flashstriker101
                Banned
                • Sep 2010
                • 134

                #8
                Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

                Originally posted by bearschicago
                I know what you mean. Korver had 3 blocks for me in one game! Hopefully this is fixed in a patch (lower the vertical when contesting shots using turbo at the same time).

                Dude its Yao he's the tallest guy in the Nba of course he does stuff that normal centers couldn't do what you expect he was leading in blocks the year he got injured and in the post season he's a definite star

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                • bearschicago
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 674

                  #9
                  Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

                  Originally posted by Flashstriker101
                  Dude its Yao he's the tallest guy in the Nba of course he does stuff that normal centers couldn't do what you expect he was leading in blocks the year he got injured and in the post season he's a definite star
                  The problem is not who gets blocks, the problem is the amount of blocks and that every player can rack up blocks if you use turbo and time it right (Like TheRealTodd said Brooks swatting Kobe). This is because of unrealistic vertical boost when using turbo and/or slow jumpers with minimal elevation.

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                  • Gotmadskillzson
                    Live your life
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 23442

                    #10
                    Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

                    Easy solution:

                    1. Stop using turbo to block shots

                    or

                    2. Lower the block shots slider for human

                    or

                    3. Lower the vertical for human

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                    • Flashstriker101
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 134

                      #11
                      Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

                      Originally posted by bearschicago
                      The problem is not who gets blocks, the problem is the amount of blocks and that every player can rack up blocks if you use turbo and time it right (Like TheRealTodd said Brooks swatting Kobe). This is because of unrealistic vertical boost when using turbo and/or slow jumpers with minimal elevation.

                      Well it just might be you guys since no one else is commenting cause i'm not getting this becuase right now i'm using the bulls against the thunder and blocks are 2 and 1

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                      • bearschicago
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 674

                        #12
                        Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

                        Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                        Easy solution:

                        1. Stop using turbo to block shots

                        or

                        2. Lower the block shots slider for human

                        or

                        3. Lower the vertical for human
                        There are times when I need to use turbo to stay in front of my man.

                        What about the verticle boost in rebounding? Can this be fixed by sliders? I don't like changing sliders because I feel that I am cheating the AI CPU or I am handicapping myself.

                        Also I have a feeling 2K can patch this.

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                        • bearschicago
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 674

                          #13
                          Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

                          Originally posted by Flashstriker101
                          Well it just might be you guys since no one else is commenting cause i'm not getting this becuase right now i'm using the bulls against the thunder and blocks are 2 and 1
                          Are you using/holding turbo and the contest shot button at the same time? If you only use the contest button, blocking is not an issue as defenders verticle is realistic and low to the ground.

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                          • grahf21
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 53

                            #14
                            Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

                            I totally agree on this, pressing turbo when you block is pretty much automatic block against jumpers... feels good but VERY VERY unrealistic. Average block per team in the NBA is round 5, but I get 5 blocks easy in 5 min/quarter games...

                            I honestly believe that those who voted no are really those who do not know how to play defense in this game b/c you almost HAVE to press turbo to catch up to some of the open 3 pters. Telling me that you don't get easy perimeter blocks means they're not even trying to contest shots.
                            Last edited by grahf21; 10-09-2010, 03:23 AM.

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                            • Flashstriker101
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 134

                              #15
                              Re: Still Too Easy to Block Jumpshots in 2K11?

                              Originally posted by bearschicago
                              Are you using/holding turbo and the contest shot button at the same time? If you only use the contest button, blocking is not an issue as defenders verticle is realistic and low to the ground.

                              Dude I played a game using the Suna against Denver...i sware to god guarding Carmelo nearly took my entire team it was times when the hand was RIGHT IN HIS FACE turbo and all and i jumped and couldn't block the shot..so i don't know what your talkinga bout the blocking is okay for me. Hell in this bulls game against Thunder durant came off a pick and i raced around it and he still drained it with me pushing TURBO AND THE BLOCK BUTTON

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