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    • Mar 2003
    • 976

    #256
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

    Originally posted by Factzzz
    Damn, i was hoping Bryce Harper would look a lot better with the rest of the face updates they've shown, especially his beard, but it looked more or less the same as last year which was bad.

    And his batting stance was bad too, bat not resting on his shoulders, and he has a toe tap, hardly looks like his stance at all.


    I noticed that as well. He looks exactly the same. Guess we'll have to wait for an actual side by side comparison before we know for sure.


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    • Jon Arbuckle
      Rookie
      • Feb 2017
      • 381

      #257
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

      Originally posted by tessl
      I don't care whether someone wants to obsess over some obscure uniform detail unless SCEA in order to placate .0000001% of the fan base they assign more developer hours to it and take away developer hours from gameplay. By gameplay I mean in manage mode getting the game to play as close to MLB IRL as possible.

      I'd rather have the players wearing parkas and snow skis with perfect gameplay than perfect uniforms and forced to spend weeks trying to figure out a slider set to get the game to play right.
      Getting decidedly non-obscure colors and uni details generally correct should not be a particularly labor intensive process. It's not really a computing power hog or something that requires a lot of advanced progamming to pull off unlike many of the graphics and animation upgrades, most of which have zero impact on gameplay, that the team has clearly devoted significant resources to these past couple years. It's not an 'either this or that' situation when it comes to getting little details correct unlike, for example, the way the team has said that implementing accurate collisions and a more thorough replay system would limit their ability to make more meaningful upgrades to the game.

      Honestly, you can develop a relatively primitive looking game that still gets uni and stadium details perfectly accurate and has super realistic gameplay. PYS on PS3 is an example of this and apparently so is the mod community MVP Baseball on PC (never played that one myself). I happen to play a game called Tennis Elbow on PC and while it looks like a PS2 game (and that might be being generous tbh) it is completely immersive thanks to its spot on gameplay and the mod community's eye for detail.

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42546

        #258
        Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

        I didn't watch any franchise menu footage from this video because I didn't watch it, but did they make any mention about improvements for the radio highlight show?
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        • Jon Arbuckle
          Rookie
          • Feb 2017
          • 381

          #259
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

          Originally posted by Blzer
          I didn't watch any menu footage from this video because I didn't watch it, but did they make any mention about improvements for the radio highlight show?
          It was a bit hard to follow during the second half after Ramone became involved but I remember Kirby saying something about not having gotten to talk about everything he wanted to near the end of the stream. Not sure if the radio highlight show was an aspect mentioned there and I don't think they talked about it elsewhere during the stream.

          Edit: I see what you did there... lol
          Last edited by Jon Arbuckle; 03-05-2017, 04:24 PM.

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          • Jays20593
            Rookie
            • Mar 2009
            • 168

            #260
            Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

            Watching the stream, is it just me or are under armour batting gloves gone ?

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            • Bullit
              Bacon is Better
              • Aug 2009
              • 5031

              #261
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

              Lets get back on topic once again please. From here on out, if it is not about presentation or commentary it is getting deleted. Do it again and you are the proud winner of a week off from OS.
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              • Russell_SCEA
                SCEA Community Manager
                • May 2005
                • 4161

                #262
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                Originally posted by tessl
                I don't care whether someone wants to obsess over some obscure uniform detail unless SCEA in order to placate .0000001% of the fan base they assign more developer hours to it and take away developer hours from gameplay. By gameplay I mean in manage mode getting the game to play as close to MLB IRL as possible.

                I'd rather have the players wearing parkas and snow skis with perfect gameplay than perfect uniforms and forced to spend weeks trying to figure out a slider set to get the game to play right.

                That's not how game development works at all. The character team just works on faces (head-scans), bodies, uniforms, equipment and CAP. They have nothing to do with gameplay. And their work doesn't effect gameplay or the resources involved with it at all.
                Last edited by Russell_SCEA; 03-05-2017, 06:55 PM.

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                • kehlis
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27923

                  #263
                  Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                  Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                  That's not how game development works at all. The character team just works on faces, bodies, uniforms, equipment and CAP. They have nothing to do with gameplay. And their work doesn't effect gameplay or the resources involved with it at all.
                  Thanks for the confirmation, it's a shame you have to keep saying the same thing to the same people over and over again.
                  Last edited by kehlis; 03-05-2017, 05:13 PM.

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                  • Caulfield
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 11043

                    #264
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

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                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    I didn't watch any franchise menu footage from this video because I didn't watch it,
                    but did they make any mention about improvements for the radio highlight show?
                    Wouldnt it be great if the radio highlight show had Soup, Wonder Dog, Psycho and Karros doing radio bits?


                    Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                    That's not how game development works at all. The character team just works on faces, bodies, uniforms, equipment and CAP. They have nothing to do with gameplay. And their work doesn't effect gameplay or the resources involved with it at all.
                    lol I can see the SDS office wastebaskets now, not getting emptied because the cleaning crew was too busy working on rosters and lineups.


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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52632

                      #265
                      Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                      This is why I'm glad that not all games in franchise mode will use the MLB Network presentation. It will stay fresh throughout the season.


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                      • Factzzz
                        FA
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 1657

                        #266
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                        Originally posted by Jays20593
                        Watching the stream, is it just me or are under armour batting gloves gone ?
                        Yeah i've been noticing this too, some under armour batting gloves have been shown, but a lot of under armour athletes have generic batting gloves on.

                        I think this is probably just because they haven't implemented all the new equipment into the game yet, which would also explain why they didn't go through equipment during the little things stream and only brands.

                        This also leaves a little hope that adidas batting gloves got in the game as well since we haven't seen any yet.
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                        • Cory4AU
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 191

                          #267
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                          Originally posted by Factzzz
                          Yeah i've been noticing this too, some under armour batting gloves have been shown, but a lot of under armour athletes have generic batting gloves on.



                          I think this is probably just because they haven't implemented all the new equipment into the game yet, which would also explain why they didn't go through equipment during the little things stream and only brands.



                          This also leaves a little hope that adidas batting gloves got in the game as well since we haven't seen any yet.


                          Yeah they are in there because in one of the earlier videos Francisco Lindor is wearing the new UA spotlights (although now Frankie is with New Balance and Franklin). But I hope it's just a matter of them not wanting us to see all of the new equipment yet. I hope adidas batting gloves made it in as well as mizuno fielding gloves.


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                          • isherdish
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 213

                            #268
                            Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                            Anybody know if they revamped the post game show and in game home run call back commentary? I would hate for it to come back the same since both were basically the same every game last version.

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                            • bcruise
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 23294

                              #269
                              Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                              Originally posted by isherdish
                              Anybody know if they revamped the post game show and in game home run call back commentary? I would hate for it to come back the same since both were basically the same every game last version.
                              Don't know about callbacks, but they did mention on the presentation stream that they re-worked outros (aka post-game). I doubt it's any kind of elaborate show - they would have shown off something like that. But we should see some differences.

                              I don't remember where in the stream they talked about this, though. Anyone know? It was quick, and it was just talk while something else was on-screen (probably during the gameplay section).

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                              • ArchitectsMetalcore
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2017
                                • 83

                                #270
                                Re: MLB The Show 17 Twitch Stream - Presentation & Commentary

                                Originally posted by isherdish
                                Anybody know if they revamped the post game show and in game home run call back commentary? I would hate for it to come back the same since both were basically the same every game last version.
                                Doubt it! they barely even touched Matty V's commentary.

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